Thursday 12th December 2024
1. Another connecting bus that doesn’t connect

Residents in the village of Downe just inside the Greater London boundary with Kent have had their usual seamless bus journey into Bromley disrupted these past few weeks due to Southern Gas Networks closing Rockery Road; the main access road from Keston, used by TfL’s hourly route 146.

While the closure’s in place arrangements have been made for Stagecoach operated buses on the route to terminate on the A283 by Keston Church with a connecting shuttle minibus, operated by Ensignbus, taking passengers on to Downe by hurrying around alternative narrow roads so it can reach the terminus in Downe, turn round and hurry back to Keston Church in the 15 minutes available in the normal schedule buses on the 146 take to continue to Downe via the normal route, stand for five minutes and return.

It makes sense to use a minibus as it means there’s no need for stand time to be taken at Downe and also, North End Lane, one of the roads on the diversion, is very narrow and although it’s used by route R8, it can be tricky for a normal size bus, especially one in a hurry to complete a diversion within a constrained time to meet a connection.

Indeed, as I found when using the 464 Connector back in February between Biggin Hill Valley and Tatsfield when a similar situation arose, it’s essential buses connect in both directions as emphasised by the timetable given to drivers by Southern Gas Networks which is also available online to inform passengers.

Obviously TfL don’t deem it necessary to publish a timetable for route 146 even though it only runs hourly but thankfully bustimes.org fills the gap and the current online timetable shows both temporary Keston truncated journeys as well as the normal through journeys to Downe. As you can see the shuttle has 14 minutes to get from Keston to Downe and back again compared to the nine minutes it normally takes together with the five minute layover.

I thought I’d give the connection a try out on Tuesday afternoon last week and caught the 14:33 from Bromley North station which was screened up with Keston as the final destination, so any strangers unaware of the arrangements for Downe would still be unaware and possibly even give that bus a miss.

The bus appeared two minutes late at 14:35 and to cut to the chase, after a struggle through the busy A21/A222 traffic light controlled junction south of Bromley South station, we arrived at Keston Church four minutes late at 14:55. But, I was pleased to see the shuttle minibus waiting in the northbound lay-by as we did a 360 degree turn at the mini roundabout and pulled up ahead of it.

While another passenger and myself hopped off smartish and got on the minibus, where two passengers were already on board…

… we had to wait for another passenger who seemed unaware of the arrangements so delayed us for a couple of minutes prior to our then doing a u-turn on the A283 to head off towards Downe.

It was already 14:57 and we were due back again in just eight minutes. The driver was certainly doing his best to make up time on the diversion…

… which although only an additional 2.2 miles, is along narrow twisty roads where care is needed. We arrived at the Downe terminus alongside Keston Parish Church seven minutes later at 15:04 but that was only one minute before the time we were due back at Keston.

Despite heading straight off again back to Keston and doing his best along the narrow lane…

… the driver arrived at Keston at 15:11 only to find the Stagecoach bus on the 164 had already left for Bromley.

All was not lost though as there are other alternatives on routes 246 and 320 which pass this stop to Bromley. If a connection is to be missed it’s obviously better to do it northbound where there are these other options, than southbound, where there aren’t, but it was still disappointing as the Stagecoach driver must have known we’d be a little late.
2. TfW’s tri-mode Class 756

Transport for Wales has started running its new Stadler FLIRT Class 756 trains on the Cardiff Valley lines. They’re almost identical to the bi-mode Class 755s run by Greater Anglia, even down to the livery and interior moquette…

… but whereas those are bi-mode (capable of taking overhead electric power or from on board diesel generators) TfW’s are tri-mode, as they also carry batteries as an additional source of traction for those sections of track where overhead power lines have been omitted such as in Pontypridd where the lead photo above was taken.

The interior layout of the trains is also the same as on Greater Anglia’s even down to the flip down seats by the doors…

… the middle section of ‘gubbins’…

… the excellent level boarding arrangements…

…the flexible space at either end…

… of the train…

… and the accessible toilet.

TfW began rolling out the first of its 24 Class 756 units on the Aberdare-Cardiff Central-Merthyr Tydfill lines on 15th November but the intention is to allocate them to the Rhymney line later next year as their permanent home, once the Class 398 tram-trains enter service on Aberdare and Merthyr Tydfill.

You get a sense of a true transformation underway on the Valley lines, not least when passing by the new Taffs Well depot and control centre where the tram-trains are currently stored.

It really will be a step change from the old Class 150s and Pacers of years past.

3. Avanti West Coast’s Class 807 Evero

Another new class of train just starting to hit the tracks is Avanti West Coast’s 10 Class 807s. Like their sister fleet of 13 Class 805s introduced in June they’ve been christened Evero and are replacing the Marmite like (you either love ’em or hate ’em) Voyager Class 221 fleet. But whereas the 805s are bi-mode units, the new 807s are all electric and destined for use on the route between London and Liverpool (including additional journeys to the current timetable) as well as between London and Blackpool and London and the West Midlands.

Although these Hitachi built trains are only seven coaches long rather than the nine or 11 we’re used to in the Pendolino fleet, as you can see in the photos, the coaches are very long so the overall seating capacity of 451 is not far off a nine coach Pendolino with 469 seats. With Avanti’s plans for a half hourly frequency between London and Liverpool, it means there’ll be a much welcome significant increase in overall capacity.

First class is just in the end coach with the first coach after that split between Standard Premium…

… and standard class.

It looks as though the Standard Premium section could also act as first class if needed due to the number of passengers paying the extra. All told there are 49 seats designated either First or Standard Premium.

Leg room in standard class is pretty ‘standard’ and there’s one three point socket and two usbs at the base of the seat back in front. The seats are the same as on the refurbished Pendolino trains.

The accessible space for a wheelchair user is in its normal location in coach A and is clearly marked…

… with the accessible toilet nearby, as is the one at the other end by first class.

As with Pendolinos and the Hitcahi trains on LNER there’s a ‘shop’ from where refreshments can be purchased in coach D.

It’s also nice to see many more tables in the other coaches, and, even better, lining up with windows.

All in all a nice train albeit the decor is not particularly inspiring and you have to like the new style seats with their ‘winged’ head rests.
Roger French
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Why AWC 807s are 7 coach sets is, their are the plans for AWC to call at Liverpool South Parkway, the platforms at Liverpool South Parkway are far too short for 9 coach sets, with Allerton junction to the South of the station & a road bridge to the north, but 7 coach sets can fit on the platforms
BTW their is new bus route being launched from next week X4 Runcorn Windmill Hill-Liverpool One Bus Station, operated by Arriva North West [Runcorn Depot] with funding from Liverpool City Region, it’s an express route, similar to the old X1, but calls at Widnes Green Oaks, its hourly Monday to Saturday, with late night journeys
https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travel-updates/travel-news-update-15-21-december-2024/
SM
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X4 will be operated operated with brand-new ADL Enviro200 MMCs, part of a batch currently being delivered to Arriva. All new Arriva vehicles for Merseyside will henceforth feature the yellow-and-black Metro livery in the run-up to franchising, although these Enviro200s also carry Arriva fleetnames.
Julian Walker
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So you really need tables on short commuter lines,. If you take the tables out you can increase the seating capacity
These trains were designed to be converted to battery operation at a later stage
Trials on other lines have proved the battery operation to be viable
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Here is an article on a successful trial of binode battery operation so we could see some of them being converted from diesel to battery power
UK’s first intercity battery train trial successfully completed – Global Railway Review
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The class 807 is train designed for life in the world of HS2 with limited First Class seating.
They certainly take off accelerating like a Victoria line train.
The moquette may be bland but the seats are comfortable although I havent been in a packed 807 yet. It surprises me the doors aren’t bigger with the size of luggage people carry these days, but I appreciate it’s a standard design.
For those who miss its passing the main wall departure board at Euston is being reinstated.
While returning home from an excellent play on Harry Beck at LT Museum last night I got from Covent Garden to the West Midlands in 90 minutes .
It would have appealed to Harry Beck’s imagination that I could look at a device on the Euston Charing Cross branch platform then sprint to catch something called Avanti from platform 14 in 12 minutes.
Despite the bad press Avanti can deliver me in safety and at speed when I need it.
John Nicholas
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In my quarter of a century happily working as a Conductor out of Bromley garage, all but seven of them working 146s on our lengthy single rota, I never recall any interruption to the route. Yet, in just the last couple of years I have almost lost count of the times the route has been truncated at either Keston “Fox” or Church for various reasons. Although Downe residents do have an alternative to Bromley as well as the shuttle (R8, then picking up the 358 at the bottom of Farnborough Hill), the already poor loadings must be whittling away to nothing by now. As virtually the whole intermediate section from Holwood Farm to Downe is missed anyway, I would have thought it would have made more sense to operate the minibus directly to Bromley via the A21, albeit on a slightly less frequent interval, for the sole benefit of those in Downe still clinging onto using the unfortunate 146.
Have never quite worked out how the “proper” 146 manages to turn at Keston Church, as this has become a very busy road since RTs, and the occasional RM, sailed along these leafy lanes.
Terence Uden
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Terrance, the road at the junction of the road to Downe is wide enough for the 146 to do a u-turn (only short buses are used on the 146). Really the better answer would have been to add an extra bus to the 146 to enable very long layovers at Downe (and an advertised earlier departure). This would give plenty of time to drive the roads carefully, and avoid the inconvenience of having to change and missed connections. Much the same happened with the 464 shuttle, little chance of making the 464 on the way back, and in that case no option but to wait for the one half hour later.
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Re the 146/546 non-connections saga, surely the answer is a more robust approach to charging the organisations who cause the chaos – the ones who dig up the roads and put up ‘temporary’ traffic lights. If they had to pay for doubling – or quadrupling – the bus service (so as to keep disruption to passengers to a minimum), and to provide more, larger and clearer signs to enable car-drivers to avoid the area, they would probably take steps to get the work done more quickly, benefitting everyone.
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Given the way that the regulatory regime works, the extra costs would end up being counted as an “allowable” expense. That would just be added to the tariff they are allowed to pass on to consumers. What needs tacking is the overall regulatory regime for utilities to get them to be more focused on their overall impact rather than gaming the system.
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Unfortunately the 146 also has tight turnrounds at the Bromley North end, so the Bromley-bound 146 cannot afford to wait for the 546 if it is late – even if the late arrival of the incoming 146 has caused the delay in the first place. As you observe, there are routes 246 and 320 as an alternative; not perfect, but better than another hour’s wait.
Julian Walker
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Whilst the trains in Wales are nice and shiny, operational performance is woeful.
The cost of all this is not reflective of the need and what happens with a government backed money pit in TfW
that can I’ll be afforded? Who pays?
They quite £800m investment but it’s normal of £1.1bn todate and the scheme downsized too.
They can’t afford to put in the frequency uplifts. Oh, and as Welsh Government own the rolling stock I’d be interested to learn how they plan to replace them or will the new rolling stock of today become the pacers of today in 15 years time…
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Whether the finances and cost have been properly calculated who knows
They will need a lot of fares revenues to cover those costs
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TFW accounts TRANSPORT FOR WALES filing history – Find and update company information – GOV.UK
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756s are hardly comparable to a Pacer in just about every way!
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agree, Pacer is such a low bar for comparison when we talk about modern railway in 2024. Unbelievablely shocking service when I first came to Cardiff in 2019.
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I think it’s clear that Transport for Wales have had challenges. But they also have ambition to dramatically improve public transport in Wales where for decades there was none and no political power to even try. In local authorities all over the country the failed deregulation of buses and the equally failed privatisation of rail has stripped public authorities of expertise. That expertise and experience needs to be built up again. In terms of costs there may be short term inefficiencies and start up expense. But I have had experience of private sector provision of contracted services and they were not cheap. A large sum of their money – which we were ultimately paying for – went to the most expensive lawyers possible so they could stiff us at every turn of the contract. Plus we had to dig them out of holes not infrequently. So give TfW a chance. It can be frustrating. But look at what they want compared to what was offered as the best and only possible way for the last 40 years.
mikeC
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I agree. Transformation of the core Valley lines into a “South Wales Metro”, the new tram trains about to enter service, Cardiff Crossrail, cancelling M4 expansion as incompatible with carbon reduction targets in favour of public transport expansion. The latter is exceptional in that it actually does what needs to be done.
Peter Brown
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Late running on the 146 / 546 can probably be explained by the implausibly indirect routing via the A283, which runs from Milford in Surrey to Shoreham on the West Sussex coast!
Perhaps they should be using the A233, which runs through Biggin Hill…
Paul B
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I think people don’t quite realise the quiet revolution that is happening to the railways in South Wales. Once all the new trains have been introduced, frequencies doubled on the Aberdare, Merthyr and Treherbert line, Cardiff Crossrail built, the railway will be completely unrecognisable from what we’ve had in the past (which is practically nothing).
It’s just a shame that the Coryton Line can’t be increased to every 15 minutes but you can’t have everything.
Also, if Wales got the HS2 consequentials we are owed TFW could start rolling out similar improvements to all parts of the country.
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Why would you do a 360 degree turn at a mini roundabout? I presume it did a 180 degree turn..😂
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