Thursday 6th July 2023
Marsh Barton is not the most exciting new station to open on the network in recent years.
Located just under two-and-a-half miles due south of central Exeter, not far from Exeter St Thomas station on the main line west towards Plymouth, the station was officially opened on Monday by Secretary of State for Transport Mark Harper with trains calling there from Tuesday.
It’s one of those very basic unstaffed modular affairs with no station buildings. Each of its two platforms is capable of taking a five coach train and comes with just one shelter…
…. with a mixture of aluminium style seats and one of those perch type things. I love the fact the official description says the seats come “with arm rests” proving the writer has obviously never sat on one.
Four sets of four seats are spread along the rest of the platform …
… while each shelter houses a ticket vending machine.
There are cycle racks at the entrance to each platform ….
… with ten docking ‘hoops’ in each….
… as well as noticeboards on which it’s good to see a full timetable displayed for the line.
Each platform also has a next train departure sign …
… and a summary display by the entrance.
A help point and smartcard reader completes the limited facilities.
And that’s it.
Not much for £16 million but the main cost was almost certainly the new pedestrian and cycle over-bridge with ramps to make each platform accessible and negating the need for lifts.
This has been constructed at the northern end of the platforms alongside Clapperbrook Lane East …
… which links the station to the large Marsh Barton industrial and warehouse type retail area – the main reason the station’s been built.
Vehicle access to the station is via a new access road from Clapperbrook Lane East but there’s no car park as it’s not envisaged people will drive to the station, being some distance from a residential area and an inappropriate location for a ‘parkway’ station. There are just a few blue badge ‘disabled’ bays.
As you can see the station is overshadowed by a giant refuse and incinerator plant – or to give it it’s official name – “Exeter Energy Recovery Facility” with dustcarts its regular visitors.
It certainly provides for an interesting aroma in the area.
Funding for the station has come from the DfT’s New Stations Fund (£3m), Devon County Council (£3m), Heart of the South West Local Enterprise Partnership’s Growth Deal Fund (£4.4m), Exeter City Council (£1.3m), Teignbridge District Council (£1.3m), Network Rail and GWR.
It was built by a construction company called GRAHAM on behalf of Network Rail.
The new station receives hourly GWR trains (with a couple of peak hour extras) on the ‘Riviera Line’ between Exmouth, Exeter and Paignton and as well as access to nearby industry and retail, planners have said it’ll “boost active travel via the nearby Riverside Valley Park and Exe Estuary Trail”.
New bus stops have been installed in nearby Grace Road which are served by the 20 minute ‘Green’ Park & Ride bus route …
…. but I can’t imagine much interchange taking place and neither it seems does Network Rail as the Onward Travel Information poster …
… fails to identify them and instead points to the original nearest bus stops which are now further away. Would you know which stop to wait at for a rail replacement bus?
Not surprisingly local politicians behind the project are relieved the long wait for the station to open is finally over. It should have originally been up and running in December 2016 but difficulties and spiralling costs leading to protracted discussions between local councils and Network Rail led to considerable delays.
Back in May 2014 the expected cost was quoted at £4.3 million, increasing to £10.4 million in 2016 and rising to £13m in 2018. As highlighted above the eventual cost became almost four times that original expectation at £16 million. (Just a reminder…. that’s for two platforms, two shelters, two bike racks, two TVMs, four times four seats, four departure signs and two smartcard readers – and a new pedestrian over-bridge and access ramps, oh, and station signs I suppose too).
The County Council blames changes to Network Rail’s design standards for the increases maintaining that “at the time of the tender preparation and scheme design, the station met Network Rail’s design standards as agreed by the steering group (which includes Network Rail). However, following the award of the contract to design and build the station, Network Rail’s design standards changed, and thIs has led to rising costs.”
Looking at the design standards of what’s been installed I came away distantly underwhelmed.
Construction work finally got underway in April 2021 after planning permission was granted in January that year, and now, just over two years on, it was smiles all round for the cameras and a love-in of stakeholder mutual congratulations with recriminations about increased costs seemingly all forgotten when the ribbon was cut at the official opening for the media and stakeholders on Monday.
With trains now calling at the opened station, aspirations for a much coveted ‘metro style’ rail service in Devon have taken another step forward.
It’s just a shame with all the build up to the opening over the last nine years no one thought to make sure passengers could actually buy a ticket to travel to and from it on the Great Western mainline either by using (an endangered) ticket office, a ticket vending machine (TVM), an app or going online which after all, the latter, are the ways we’re being told we must use.
The only tickets available from the south east of England were via Honiton, Clapham Junction, Southampton and Salisbury with nothing available to/from Paddington on the main line via Taunton.
I tried the TVM at my local station, Hassocks on Tuesday morning. No joy.
I tried Hassocks ticket office and Craig had the same problem forcing me to buy a separate ticket to Victoria.
I tried the TVM at Paddington. No joy. It didn’t even recognise Marsh Barton existed.
The queue in Paddington’s ticket office was far too long and I’d have missed my train (so much for ticket offices being underused), so I tried the GWR app. No joy.
I tried the GWR website. No joy.
In the end I resorted to buying a ticket from the TVM as far as Exeter St Davids which is the same fare as Marsh Barton.
On arrival at Exeter St Davids I tried the TVM there to buy a ticket to Marsh Barton (two stations away) but, as with Paddington, it didn’t even recognise the station name.
I asked at the ticket office what the problem was but the member of staff didn’t know of one and issued me with a supplement “Overdistance” ticket from Exeter St Davids to Marsh Barton at no charge.
On arrival at Marsh Barton I tried to buy a ticket back to Hassocks but it wouldn’t offer me one via Taunton, only the aforementioned options via Salisbury etc but at least it defaulted to off-peak tickets this time.
I bet Secretary of State Mark Harper didn’t have these problems on Monday.
I understand the same issues arose when Okehampton reopened. You’d have thought with that experience, at one of the project management meetings overseeing Marsh Barton’s construction and opening someone at GWR would have said…
“Hey everyone remember we messed up by not getting tickets available in the system ready for the opening of Okehampton – let’s make sure we don’t make the same mistake again at Marsh Barton. Especially having spent £16 million on the pretty limited facilities there. Let’s at least make sure we don’t appear total incompetents by passengers not being able to buy tickets on day one”.
It seems not.
There’s a trio of new stations about to open – Headbolt Lane on Merseyside on 24th July** and Thanet Parkway in Kent on 31st July while GWR’s next opening is Portway Parkway near Bristol in a few weeks. Maybe, just maybe, passengers will be able to buy a ticket to it.
**Update: it turns out Headbolt Lane is not opening on 24th July – more likely in October.
Roger French
Blogging timetable: 06:00 TThS
Just on the last paragraph: Headbolt Lane is scheduled to open on the 24th July (exactly a week before TP).
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Many thanks Matt; have updated that paragraph. Skelmersdale Kirkby trainlink will be really rolling then!
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Headbolt Lane is now not opening in July for any operator and it will be October – number of operational issues now need to be resolved..mainly for the 777s and method of operation including route learning and the Fact now all Northern crews are out of route competence
The original July date plan was only ever going to be for Northern anyway and not Mersey
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Thanks for the update Lee.
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I am afraid that you will find the soon to open Portway Park & Ride station even more basic than Marsh Barton! Situated on the single track Severn Beach branch it has just a single platform. However in the South West we get so little in the way of new public transport infrastructure, that all new station developments are most welcome.
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Parkways and Airport stations: for those that espouse railways and public transport, but rarely use them 🤔
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The consultation on ticket office closures can be found on the London Travel Watch Web site and the Transport Focus Web site
It is probably an example of how not to run a consultation. When you go to those web site you end up branching out to the the Train operating web sites with a whole raft of links., It is very difficult to follow. Some of the proposed closures are surprising. The ticked office at Euston is proposed for closing
In general the closing of he ticket offices makes sense when only about 12% of tickets are sold though those offices
Information that might be useful but I have not found is how many tickets are sold through the ticket offices remaining open. I suspect a lot of that 12% will be sold through those office
Other useful information would be how many tickets are sold at each ticket office
I suspect the list will change. It would at least in my view be sensible to keep a ticket Office/Information office at Euston which could provide tickets and information for both Mainline and TFL services
Best of luck fighting your way though the consultation
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The Clearest Consultation is Greater Anglia’s. All ticket offices are proposed to close except those at the stations below
Cambridge
Chelmsford
Colchester
Ipswich
Liverpool Street
Norwich
Stansted Airport
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The GWR consultation doc lists a breakdown of sales for the ticket offices they manage.
It’s labelled “Changes to Ticket Retailing at GWR Stations” – https://www.gwr.com/haveyoursay
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Whilst the new station does have a 30 frequency in peak periods and hourly off peak. The following is rather odd:-
Yes, at Marsh Barton you can board a service throughout the day to Polsloe Bridge travelling in the opposite directions is different. Mondays to Fridays after the 0854 from Exmouth to Paignton calls at Polsloe Bridge the next service is not until 1555 from stops at 1617. Or in other words no service to Marsh Barton for the greater part of the day.
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Off-peak trains between Paignton and Exmouth usually stop at all stations on the eastern side of the estuary and skip stops on the western side or vice versa. Therefore, it makes sense that there are no regular trains from Polsloe Bridge to Marsh Barton. However, bizarrely off-peak trains from Marsh Barton do stop at Polsloe Bridge. The same anomaly means you can get a train from Marsh Barton one stop down the line to Starcross but not back again. Hopefully, this will all be ironed out in the next timetable change.
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Bottom right on that tvm: “more routes”. Your welcome😊
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Heads would certainly have rolled back
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Project management meetings? Maybe they tried (and failed) to save cost by not having any.
More likely there isn’t a comprehensive national overall to-do list for opening new stations. Or maybe there is but nobody remembered to consult it. Or maybe nobody remembered to check that everything on the checklist had been fully completed.
Or there wasn’t anybody in overall charge of the project. Or there is, but he/she decided that there was no need to offer any facility to pay for journeys to this particular destination.
What other reason(s) could there be for the shambles?
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Ticketing: SNAFU (Situation normal all *fouled* up). But at least not FUBAR.
Will Stratford (London) also still have a ticket office? Would be a little odd for such a busy station covering multiple modes to not have one.
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I am not certain but I think TfL stations are not include in the current ticket office closure consultations
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All TfL ticket offices were closed in 2015/6. National Rail are only being made to follow the same idea.
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No, London Underground ticket offices closed in 2015/16. TfL operate ticket offices at several Overground/Elizabeth line stations; these are National Rail ticket offices at National Rail stations. There doesn’t seem to be any news on the TfL website about their closure that I can see.
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There doesn’t seem to be any problem buying tickets to MB on the GWR website today.
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Great to see more investment in rail in the Eastern half of Devon but it just makes it ever more baffling that there has been nothing similar west of Ivybridge for over 100 years. Does anyone know why? After all, there are plenty of locations between Ivybridge and Plymouth where you there would plenty of demand if a new station was built.
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Plenty of locations? It’s 11 miles from Ivybridge to Plymouth, most of it countryside. Adding stations slows down everyone else’s journeys, and reduces line capacity. At the distance here, one station maximum is all that could be accommodated in that length. There’s maybe a case for somewhere in Plympton, but it would be marginal at best. And the only service that could call is the local GWR Cornwall-Bristol and beyond trains, which are hourly, dropping to 2 hourly off peak.
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Exeter to Dawlish is a similar distance and now has 4 intermediate stations. Plympton is a town of 30 000 with a railway running through it but no station; by comparison Okehampton is a town of less than 6 000.
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Exeter to Dawlish has (a) a pair of passing loops at Dawlish Warren (b) more local services that could potentially call – but note the issues about the stopping pattern at Marsh Barton.
Okehampton is a railhead for north Devon; its own population contributes very little to the station’s patronage.
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The inability to program ticket machines to recognise Marsh Barton doesn’t fill one with confidence that Network Rail, National Rail, the tocs, and of course GBR, will ever be able to provide decent ticket selling service without staffed ticket offices. Given the extreme complexity of British rail fares it seem a cast iron certainty that the whole thing will be a complete disaster.
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Great to see Andy Burnham, Greater Manchester metro mayor jumping into the Ticket Offices closure debate by suggesting any such offices lined up for closure (which he claims might be illegal) in his area could be kept open simply by being taken over by TfGM. For his next trick he’ll be making DRT bus services work.
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Thinking about ticket office closures, I suppose that as long as stations keep being staffed for the same or similar hours then the impact will be minimal. I believe TfL stations are always staffed when open. I wonder how the job role quality compares with that prior to the ticket office closures?
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The computer systems have caught up with real life and Marsh Barton tickets are available online.
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I’m sure there was a “guiding mind” for all this.
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Today I have learnt that there is something called a free supplement “overdistance” ticket. I hope Roger had the delight of being able to show it to someone carrying out revenue protection as well as using it to go through the gate at EXD.
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Christian Wolmar’s take on ticket office closures:
https://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2023/07/nowhere-for-tickets/
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Bottom right on that tvm: “more routes”. Your welcome😊
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A new station that’s not a parkway…. whatever next!As for it being a unstaffed halt they all will be by 2025!
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Tickets to/from Thanet Parkway went on sale on 1st July for travel from the scheduled opening date of 31st July.
It’s only going to be served by trains to/from St Pancras outside the peaks, however, so attracts the HS1 “tax” in most cases.
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Although the higher “via HS1” fare only applies to the part of the journey actually on the high speed line, so other passengers could get to Thanet Parkway at ordinary fares by changing at Ashford for example.
One of the rationales for the new station presented by Kent County Council some years ago was to have a shorter headline journey time from “London” to “Thanet” to encourage investment in one of Kent’s more deprived areas, so serving it by Javelin trains makes sense from that point of view.
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