Tuesday 7th July 2026
It’s yet another Tuesday tale of competition between bus companies in the Home Counties. While Thames Valley and Carousel have dampened down their skirmishes with tactical withdrawals in Berkshire, the battle for the High Wycombe and Slough to Uxbridge corridors between Carousel and First Bus continues and over in neighbouring Bedfordshire a new outbreak of hostilities has just begun.
I recently covered the battle between Red Rose and Arriva for the corridor between Aylesbury and Buckingham and a few months ago highlighted wasted duplication in Luton and Dunstable between Arriva and Grant Palmer with both companies chasing each other on the roads between the town centre and Linmere and Thorn, but yet more competition began in this area from the end of May when Arriva expanded its network to take on Centrebus starting a new head to head battle for the Marsh Farm residential area in north Luton.
As part of a significant change round of routes from 31st May, including a renumbering into single digits, Arriva changed its route previously numbered 29 which had shuttled every 20 minutes between Rumfold, Biscot and Luton town centre to now be known as route 5 with an increased frequency of every 15 minutes and an extension from Rumfold to serve the large Marsh Farm residential area.
This puts it in direct competition with Centrebus’s route 10 which runs to the estate on a more direct route every 12 minutes and has done so for decades, including by predecessor bus companies.
The two routes are shown on an extract from Arriva’s comprehensive network map of the conurbation (above) with its new route 5 shown in light blue (I’ve added the name Rumfold to clarify where it is) and Centrebus route 10 shown in orange via Limbury. You can see they both serve Marsh Farm with a large anti-clockwise loop along with Arriva’s route 6 (was numbered route 27 until 31st May) which also runs every 15 minutes around the estate before continuing to the town centre via Leagrave. Below is the full network map from earlier in the year showing the arrangements before the recent changes from which you can see the light blue route 29 didn’t continue over to Marsh Farm.
As part of its network changes Arriva are promoting buses between Marsh Farm and the town centre “every 7 minutes” (actually 7-8 minutes) by coordinating frequencies on routes 5 and 6 albeit they take different routes into town with the 5 taking 30 minutes while the 6 takes 26 minutes. Centrebus’s comparable journey on the 10 via Limbury takes 24 minutes.
The OS map extract below shows the comparable routes of the 5 and 10 from which you can see why the 10 has a four minute time advantage due to its more direct routing through Limbury rather than Rumfold.
I took a ride on both routes on Thursday morning last week to see how the competition was going in its fifth week. Things got off to a bad start as I walked from the Interchange through to Silver Street where both routes depart alongside Luton’s big shopping centre, now branded as Frasers Plus.
A small number of passengers were waiting at the bus stop for the 5 and 10 but there was a distinct lack of buses.
The road was closed beyond the bus stops and none of us were quite sure whether buses would still be serving them before doubling back to regain the normal route.
There were no notices posted at any of the six bus stops and everyone was looking rather confused at each other and gradually drifting away, mostly to the nearby Interchange alongside the station where both routes also stop on their inbound journey at Stand 2.
Here there was more confusion with buses arriving on the 5 and 10 with passengers expecting to travel onwards to the shopping centre and drivers telling them this is as far as the bus was going with other passengers boarding for their return journey. No information was posted here either.
It wasn’t very encouraging.
I hopped on a route 10 and we soon set off with five on board not far behind an Arriva route 5 which had departed a couple of minutes before with four passengers. As we approached the busy and congested retail and residential area of Biscot just north of the town centre, we caught the Arriva route 5 up…
… as well as passing an inbound Arriva route 5 followed closely by a Centrebus route 10 both with high single digit numbers on board. We stayed on the tail of the 5 until it turned off to continue via Rumfold while we headed for Limbury where we paused for a couple of minutes by the area’s local retail centre…
… and two buses heading into town on the 10 passed with about a dozen passengers between them.
By now just one passenger remained as we set off again for Marsh Farm where the Arriva route 5 got just in front of us as we began the anti-clockwise circuit around the area.
It was interesting to see two passengers shunned the Arriva bus just in front of us at the first stop and boarded the Centrebus 10…
… as we continued to follow the 5 which was just in front.
The same thing happened at the next stop with another passenger letting Arriva go by…
… and the next stop after that with two more passengers favouring Centrebus over Arriva.
It may be because they were travelling to Limbury or perhaps perceived the 5 took a longer route (which it does) or were befuddled by the route number showing as 5, as previously the Arriva route for the town centre at these stops would have been the 27 (now the 6 via Leagrave) and not helped by the bus stops still showing the old route numbers.
Both buses seemed to be taking a pause at this stop so I took the opportunity to switch from the 10 to the 5 and see how that fared on its journey back into town.
There were two passengers already on board the Arriva bus and we continued to wait a little longer as the Centrebus bus set off and overtook on its journey back into town.
No-one boarded as we headed around the Rumfold area but once we got to the busy Biscot area we picked up 14 passengers at eight bus stops including four of those 14 alighting after making just short journeys on board giving us 12 passengers as we reached the town centre not far behind the route 10 which had set off before us from Marsh Farm and I’m sure did just as well through Biscot.
The section of route through Biscot is undoubtedly serving a well patronised area and again I noticed the bus stops were still showing the former route number 29 rather than the new 5…
… although the new look bus stops for Luton don’t have a facility for route numbers so that will solve that problem.
Purple seems to the favoured corporate colour for the Unitary Luton Borough Council.
It was evident Centrebus’s long standing presence in Marsh Farm has led to a loyal following and I got the impression Arriva’s additional frequency (eight buses per hour rather than the previous five) as a result of the newly extended route 5 (ex 29) wasn’t making much of an impact
While in Luton I also had a look at the Arriva/Grant Palmer clash between the companies’ routes H/H1 and Jo/L and numbers travelling didn’t look any different to what I’d found when sampling these routes back in February.
There simply aren’t enough passengers to make these competitive clashes sustainable.
Roger French
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The days of Luton Corporation buses around the town in a Caramel and Cream livery (were they mainly double deck Leyland PD2 ?) What frequencies to such residential areas applied then ? With Purple bus stop signs I would expect some kind of Harry Potter triple deck RT conversions running around.
With United Counties to the North and London Country area to the South the border town in regulated days had a good fair service and the Thameslink fast electric trains were way yet to come for the rail network as such and a much smaller airport with much larger Vauxhall Motors manufacturing in town giving plenty of route income.
Is the combined 5/6 going to generate more passengers and leave enough for the 10. Given they take different routes there might be. Having had personal experience of not getting bus stops updated at flag level in time for route changes I realise that it can be a challenge to get everything done, but surely once published in notices and proceedings ( why in these electronic information ages links to the proposed timetable be incorporated in such things from the DfT ?) someone needs to go and order the vynal stickies and a ladder , ideally getting new route up in advance by a couple of days no bad thing , removing old over a few days later ASSUMING the timetable case has been updated.
JBC Prestatyn
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The 1930s area agreements protected Luton Corporation to an extent. The London Passenger Transport Board’s London Country buses were not allowed to carry passengers locally within the Borough of Luton – the trade-off being that their Green Line coaches had the exclusive right to the passenger traffic between Luton and London.
The Vauxhall Works was a thorn in the side of the Corporation, even if it did provide much custom. Wages were similar, but Vauxhall workers did not need to work extreme early and late turns and has evenings and weekends off. This led to staff shortages and the services were plagued by cancellations. The union short-sightedly resisted driver-only operation (although this eased in the late 1960s) which would have allowed the services to operate with fewer, but better paid, staff. Eventually the ailing undertaking was sold to the newly-formed National Bus Company, being absorbed into United Counties from 4th January 1970.
Julian Walker
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Interesting – if depressing. We (the public) were sold deregulated, privatised buses on the basis hat competition would make them much more passenger-friendly; no points there, I’m afraid.
‘There simply aren’t enough passengers’ – well, there probably would be if the service quality didn’t put off anyone who had an alternative … If the service(s) operated to timetable, and passenger information at stops was accurate, and reliable, it should be possible to generate at least some new custom: every year, a crop of potential new public transport users leave school, another crop of older people give the buses a try, and others whose political instincts are Green would be glad to have a decent service to cut down on car-use. Why can the managements of these operators not see the big ‘fail’ they are making by not attracting this potential new custom?
I’ve gone on about road-works previously but, again, why are bus management so unwilling to knock at the door of a – presumably – more public transport conscious minister to try and sort out this problem which affects buses much more that cars and lorries, which can and will divert if they informed? Again, a big ‘fail’ for not even posting publicity at stops – these bus companies obviously can’t be trusted to ‘put the passenger first’ even in this most obvious situation, so councils need to be properly funded to do the publicity – by the companies that cause the road closures.
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It’s Runfold estate Roger👍🚌
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Looks like Arriva are becoming a bit more aggressive – presumably to justify the investment in 800 new buses.
However, I think Centrebus will succeed on this one because of their consistency – same route and number. Arriva have just confused everyone by renumbering and changing the routes. Don’t know how many extra buses were needed to extend the 29 to Marsh Farm but cannot not see the justification and I expect they were recycled from another part of Luton.
The network map is a Luton Council one with all operators so it is good that this has been updated. Putting route numbers on bus stops is always risky as operators seem to enjoy changing them from time to time!
Richard Warwick
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I must agree with Rick about the need for operators to “put passengers first”. Very few operators these days bother to provide printed timetables … it’s all on line … except for Arriva who have removed their, admittedly poorly presented, downloadable timetables from their website.
in St. Albans we have an operator on one of the city routes which has a driver who regularly runs early and is not unknown to make up his own route as well. Complaints to the operator go unanswered. They obviously have nothing but contempt for their passengers/customers. We are subsidising this incompetence through our council tax.
John
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Perhaps a complaint should be addressed to Herts CC? They are both the contracting and the registration authority, and vehicle tracking will almost certainly show any deviation from route or timetable.
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The one.network roadworks site shows scaffolding works in Library Road, the way the 10 should have run. There is then a second entry to show the road is closed for the duration. It’s possible that the scaffolding permit was granted on the basis of leaving the road open, but an inspection deemed it to be necessary to close the road. If that took place at short notice, there is little the bus operators can do but react to it on the day.
I’m afraid any thought that the Government may reign in utilities and others who cause roadworks to improve life for bus passengers is very much outweighed by the greater desire for more (housing) development, which is often the cause of disruption as new utility connections are put in. Plus, no-one wants to be without water/gas/electricity/phone line, which frequently require the road to be dug up for a repair.
KCC
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Seems like yet another example of deregulation being really wasteful. There would be enough passengers if timetables were coordinated to even out the service and actually provide new links rather than lazily duplicating each other, which creates a really unbalanced network. So, 1 part of town has 2 routes basically copy each other while a neighbouring area may only get a barebones service. It’s nonsense and I hope it comes to an end in the coming years.
A bit like some of the changes coming on 26th July to the Lea Valley, where a genuinely positive change from Arriva, on closer inspection is a mixed bag. The 66 is being extended to Hammond Street via Brookfield which creates a lot of new links, it is also being coordinated with a reduced 251 so 4 buses an hour run between Cheshunt and Waltham Abbey, a positive change. But on closer inspection, they are also cutting evening journeys. 251 will end 20 minutes earlier than now while the 66 will end a whopping 2 hours 15 minutes earlier from Loughton, cutting out journeys around 9pm and 10pm! The 66 also runs very close to the hourly 242 towards Waltham Cross. So, what could’ve been 3 buses an hour to/ from Brookfield is more like 2 because of a lack of coordination. Also spotted 26 plates on the 310 already!
Also, Central Connect are making some great changes. The 13 to Epping and North Weald doubles in frequency to every half hour. Later journeys on the 25 to Harlow too. While, Travel Essex shows a small series of very short town routes in Waltham Abbey (A1/ A2/ A3), one of which runs down Sewardstone Road to Lea Valley Campsite, to connect with the 215 to Chingford and Walthamstow. A section unserved in 10 years but facing a lot of public pressure online to restore! Good news but a through route to Chingford Station would be far more useful.
Aaron
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The additional journeys on the 25 and the new A1 service are both recipients of Hertfordshire Local Authority Bus Grant (formerly BSIP) funding.
Dan Tancock
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Any idea on the A2 and A3 sections? Just seems silly having 3 routes that all take at most 10 minutes each when it could’ve been one jointly funded route. A lack of direct route between Waltham Cross and Chingford seems like an obvious missing link, regardless of the silly boundaries around here.
Really hopping it’s 1 bus on these A routes that change route number in Waltham Abbey but people can stay on to the Campsite, otherwise it’s a bit useless and extending the 215 would be a better solution.
Also not sure how you know what BSIP funds nowadays as Intalink doesn’t bother to tell us.
Aaron
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It will be one bus and through Ticketing will allow passengers on the A3 to continue to/from Waltham Cross. There are ambitions to extend the A3 in future to Chingford but that would require some political support and authority funding to kickstart.
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To Anonymous,
That is very encouraging, just a shame the way it has been registered means it will be harder for people to find out about it, as people really enthusiastic about it like me can currently find no information on it! A bit like the 84B, now 243, TFL should really be running these cross-boundary routes for there to be any long term success.
And obviously not TFL, but the northern section of what was the 505 now runs from 7am to 10pm, 6 days a week, that is the minimum a link from Waltham Cross to Chingford needs to get to. And every time I visit Chingford Mount and see a 215, I wish it ran to Waltham Cross, would make my life a lot easier!
Aaron
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How disappointing that no one -Arriva/Centrebus/Council – seemed bothered to affix a notice on the Silver Street stops directing passengers to the station interchange. It really can’t be too difficult!
Also that 5 weeks after the changes bus stop flags still show the outdated route numbers. I had hoped that Luton Council were showing signs of improvement with bus stop information but obviously not.
Have not been to Luton Interchange lately Roger , but when leaving the railway station did you see any information as to which of the many bus stops each route uses?
On my last visit I had to inspect each stop until I found the one I wanted!
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As KCC pointed out it appears that this closure may not have been planned and that the notice of the closure may have been very minimal and I have been led to believe that the possible diversion route (not normally served by anything but a couple of school buses early in the morning) had issues with parking preventing buses getting round smoothly (an issue when you are talking about a bus every couple of minutes and not 1 or 2 a day).
It appears, given his experience, that Roger arrived into this as it was unfolding on the day and I understand notices were placed on the stops later in the day by the operators once it was clear what was happening and the initial management of the emerging issue had been dealt with though given comments I have seen it is possible these may have been damaged/removed and may need to be reviewed/replaced.
Dwarfer
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Maybe worth noting that the Centrebus 10 reduces to half hourly on Saturdays, so Arriva have a significant frequency advantage one day a week.
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Thanks for the info Dwarfer
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I had expected Arriva to try to grow the market by providing the basics; reliability, good publicity and a stable service. Instead they are harking back to the on road competition of the late 80s.
Resources can be found to try to run another operator off the road, figuratively, but elsewhere there is little evidence of any attempt to improve service provision.
Gareth Cheeseman
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On the whole, I would agree with your sentiments but with Arriva and Centrebus it’s a bit like watching the lowest tier of football. Neither operator has that element of focus on quality which is needed to raise the bar. The Centrebus group of companies appear to relish tendered work, contract work and stuff which has financial support, rather than putting in their own effort on purely commercial offerings. If Centrebus has been substandard when it comes to service delivery on its route 10, in whatever form, then it leaves the door ajar for someone else to come in.
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