Seen Around

Thursday 31st August 2023

Welcome to August’s potpourri of miscellany that’s caught my eye during the month and hasn’t warranted a full blown blog.

Flying visit to the Bluebell

It had been a long time coming – tickets went on sale in May 2022 for an originally planned visit in August that year, with mechanical problems resulting in a year’s postponement but the Flying Scotsman certainly arrived in style at the Bluebell Railway last week for seven consecutive days running on the line between Sheffield Park and East Grinstead between 23rd and 29th August with a static display at Sheffield Park for the rest of this week until Sunday.

When the train last visited the Sussex attraction in 2017 it certainly drew the crowds, and this year’s visit, coinciding with the iconic steam engine’s centenary, has been the same and more with hundreds turning out to ride and watch it pass by each day including when I took a return ride with friends on Monday.

It’s quite incredible how this steam engine, which can truly be labelled ‘iconic’, attracts so much attention and provides such obvious pleasure and enjoyment among all ages: young, middle aged and old.

Many thanks to the Bluebell Railway for its superb organisation and it’s good to know the visit was a resounding financial success too in these difficult times for heritage railways and locomotives.

Swanley Garage’s new lease of life

I had a fascinating visit to the former London Transport Country Bus garage in Swanley – code SJ – earlier this month and was very impressed to see how Austin Blackburn and the team have renovated the premises but kept its charm and heritage now the Go Coach Hire base has moved there from Sevenoaks.

It’s great to see the touches of nostalgia that have been added to the refurbishment of the offices on the left hand side which were so typical of the layout of London Transport’s Country Area bus garages of the day. This includes a fantastic reception area where the admin staff are based and a training room.

Austin uses the garage, which now contains a modern pit and facilities, to carry out body refurbishment work for a range of operators including contractors to TfL as well as looking after his own fleet.

Enjoy these before and after photos with the former courtesy of the London Transport Museum collection.

Bollards to Didcot

Following my recent blog about Bus Lane fines in Brighton, I was impressed by the three bus activated bollards that protect Didcot’s Station Road (adjacent to the town’s main shopping centre) from extraneous traffic.

However one of the bollards wasn’t working during my visit, staying down in the road resulting in buses passing by without having to wait for the bollard to fall. But then two high-viz wearing officials came along and fixed it and all was well again.

Days out in the South

I was impressed to see Stagecoach South has produced a very informative leaflet promoting its significant inter-urban network of bus routes in West Sussex this summer, and all the more so that it was available on board the bus I caught from Chichester to Singleton.

Looking online I see two other similar guides have been produced for the Blackwater Valley and Surrey and also Hampshire.

Each contains a very helpful map and information about places to visit including discount offers.

Well done Stagecoach South. This is great to see.

A bad week for Chiltern Railways

The above announcement caught my eye on social media the other week. I’m glad I wasn’t caught up in that lot. It certainly ticked off a fair number of entries on the Bingo Card of Rail Disruptions.

GWR’s book of stats on ticket offices

While waiting for my Witlshire Connect DRT at Pewsey railway station I had a look at the rather lovely waiting room…

… which in addition to its classy magazines for passengers to read while they wait …

… also contained a rather substantial book which listed every station on the GWR network with facts and figures about ticket office usage.

It’s an absolute treasure trove of statistics and what a shame other Train Operating Companies haven’t produced something similar so there could be informed debate about the future of individual ticket offices rather than the generalised “only 12% of tickets are sold from ticket offices” which is a meaningless average.

For example Pewsey only sees 7.7% of tickets (10,361 pa) sold from its office amounting to 34 tickets per day (open six days a week for 51 weeks a year) working out at five per hour (open for six and a half hours)….

…. whereas Paddington sees a significant 38.4% of tickets sold or collected (702,519 pa) from its ticket office – interestingly the percentage isn’t shown in the table – amounting to 1,930 per day or 120 an hour or two per minute.

That’s an awful lot of passengers to shut up shop for and I couldn’t help notice a substantial number preferring to queue rather than use one of the small number of Ticket Vending Machines at Paddington.

Ambrose Avenue, where?

John Crowhurst was puzzled by a Tweet from Arriva on 15th August wondering which Ambrose Avenue was closed – thinking it might be in Newcastle.

But, it was in Essex after all, in Colchester, which Arriva’s tweeters clarified in a follow up tweet the next day.

Sunshine Yellow School Buses

I spotted this poster in Portsmouth promoting the Coastliner 700 bus route and I’m sure it won’t be long before the photograph will be updated with the splendid new livery the new Coastliner buses now wear.

Open air wait at the Cathedral

Meanwhile in Chichester, I do hope West Sussex County Council use some of its Bus Service Improvement Plan funds to pay for a bus shelter at the busy north side bus stop in West Street opposite the Cathedral. It’s a lovely spot to wait for a bus on a sunny day but not so pleasant in the rain.

Stops on the south side of the road have two bus shelters.

Bus stop dirt

Please could Kent County Council find some funds from its Bus Service Improvement Plan to (a) clean bus stop flags and (b) remove out of date route numbers.

And in Basingstoke too

Meanwhile in Basingstoke I see that the “centre-shuttle” bus service was withdrawn two and a half years ago as explained in a notice on Stop Z opposite the station – where the new route 731 to Heathrow departs.

Yet on the other side of the road at bus stop X, the flag is still promoting the now defunct service.

But at least there’s no out of date information in the timetable cases.

There isn’t any information.

Where do I put my luggage?

Greater Anglia have done well to introduce an entire fleet of new trains but my attention was caught while travelling on a new Class 720 train with its 3+2 seating designed for commuters, except the same trains are used by holiday makers travelling to and from Clacton-on-Sea and Southend-on-Sea as well as other popular resorts in Essex.

It left me wondering where passenegrs are supposed to put their lugagge. There are no luggage racks, the overhead rack isn’t very deep and nor is there much space between the seats fit suitcases.

Still, at least there’s a notice even if it’s instructions are completely impractical.

Jubilee at Stratford

There was a time when you could arrive at Stratford station and a train on the Jubilee line would leave within a minute or two. Nowadays following a reduction in the timetable in May, when five trains were withdrawn from the schedule, I’ve sometimes found no train standing in the three terminating platforms with a huge crowd waiting patiently for one to arrive and then leave with a choc-a-block full load (see above photo). It’s no longer a pleasant way to travel.

GWR’s joined up inclusive tickets

My eye was caught by this poster in the foyer of Didcot Parkway promoting combined rail, bus and admission tickets to attractions including Blenheim Palace and Legoland.

Excellent. And nice to see some bus timetable leaflets too – including a leaflet about the autonomous bus – which reminds me, whatever happened to the phase three full size bus I wonder?

Delay Repay updates

Finally, as promised last month, an update on my frustrations with GWR and Southern over delays in resolving delay repays (GWR) and overcharges (Southern). I’m delighted to report within hours of last month’s blog appearing online I’d heard from Simon Pritchard, Customer Relations Manager at GWR, who confirmed my three outstanding cases had all now been approved and Rail Travel Vouchers (my preferred compensation method) arrived in the post within a matter of days. My thanks as always to blog reader Lee (who now works for GWR) and ‘oiled the wheels’. And good news from Southern too, as within a couple of days I also had confirmation from them my promised Voucher was on its way.

I’m pleased to report this month has been all clear for customer service grumbles and even praise for Southern who I thought might question my Delay Repay claim for a missed connection to the Hoverbus at Portsmouth & Southsea station due to the train arriving 11 minutes late meaning I had to catch the Hovercraft 30 minutes later than planned. I thought the Southern Delay Repayers might baulk at the consequential delay on another mode, even though it’s advertised as a through connecting journey on Natonal Rail Planners. I’m very pleased to report the team approved the claim, albeit after a bit of a delay caused no doubt by the need for human intervention. Nice to end with some good news.

More miscellany at the end of next month.

Roger French

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36 thoughts on “Seen Around

  1. Two of us went to Didcot last week only to find that the autonomous bus came off on 25 July and a new route will not start until early September. Leaflet in the station. Yet I had checked it the week before.
    Also no autonomous bus in Harwell and no signs either.
    At least we had good rides from Reading via Wallingford and then by the new 34 to Newbury.

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  2. Greater Anglia have some issues with allocation. Last time I went from Norwich to London it was a Stansted Express unit. No tables and difficult to work without one. All was well on the way back.

    I have yet to complete a round trip without seeing some one fall off the slope at the end of the carriage. Odd design and there are even warning signs about it so there must be regular occurrences.

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    1. Seems to be a long-standing issue. For the past year or so I’ve observed (travelling on a Friday) that the 13.30 from Liverpool St is the correct stock, thus incl 1st class, but the 14.00 is invariably a Stansted Express unit with no 1st. Be nice to see them get it sorted.

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      1. I wonder if the public are travelling on what would used to stock movements so that units can be serviced at Crown Point?

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      2. Reply from Andrew:
        Hello Roger – I’m having trouble placing a comment.
        Could you kindly add a reply to Richard_dsc’s comment: “The Greater Anglia timetable clearly shows that the 14.00 does not have first class seating. Nor does it have a Cafe-Bar, only “On-board catering service available for all or part of the journey”.

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        1. I wonder for how much longer Greater Anglia will maintain First class on the Norwich service. As far as I know it is now the only Greater Anglia service with First class

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    1. The DfT and Transport Focus have researched this issue extensively and surveys in 2016, 2018 and 2020 all showed that rail vouchures are amongst the public’s least favourite forms of compensation.

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    2. I like the idea of getting ‘money off’ when buying a ticket for my next journey. I tend to save them up for expensive trips and then it doesn’t seem so bad to buy the ticket. I used to save a year’s worth for an All Line Rover but am now using them as I go in case ticket offices are closed down at short notice.

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  3. It’s very common for bus companies to put tweets out referring to a particular road being closed, but no indication where it is (and often not which route(s) are affected), although you have to be pretty special to think that Arriva Herts & Essex would be tweeting updates about an issue in Newcastle!

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    1. I was interested to learn that GoCoach has taken on the old SJ Swanley Junction garage as their base. SJ was the last East Surrey garage opened under the auspices of the LGOC in 1925. When I visited on an Omnibus Society trip some 30 years ago Southland Travel had the garage as their base. The building was in a very poor state then so it is good to see it brought into a bright and modern building.

      My comment about Arriva’s tweet on road closures was a deliberate dig at the pointless post without specifying the location. Arriva is good at pointless posts. A while back the bus stop at Amwell, east Hertfordshire was closed and one of the suggested alternative stops was some 6 miles away in Harlow reached by a fast dual carriageway road with no pavements!

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  4. I would like to say a big Well Done to Arriva North East for producing a lovely leaflet entitled “North Yorkshire – Beautiful by Bus”, which has a full timetable (laid out much better than the web ones) for the X93 and X94 Middlesbrough to Whitby & Scarborough, places along the way and a nice map of it and the X4. In an area where we have Transdev and East Yorkshire producing leaflets, it is lovely to see Arriva joining the fray!

    Delenn

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    1. I guess we should applaud them for producing a timetable leaflet for the X93/94 and yes, they have put in a proper timetable rather than the abomination from the website. However, it is odd that whilst they have put in lots of good tourist stuff, and several mentions of the X4, they don’t have those times in the leaflet.

      Good to see the WordPress issue sorted too

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  5. The 3 bus partnerships in Bedfordshire have, jointly, produced an excellent Days out by bus leaflet, too, which includes discounts at some attractions. No map in it though, and it’s quite difficult to get hold of a paper copy (although it is online)

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  6. Out of date notices: I got on a first Wessex vehicle a few weeks ago and there was a notice that warned me that smoking on the bus would be outlawed from 1st July and that if I was seen smoking after that I may be fined £50…

    When do you reckon that was from? Well done if you said…. 2007!

    So can anyone beat that? (Proof can be provided, Roger!)

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  7. First Bus in Somerset seems not to be doing so well. Several routes were dues to be axed but have been given temporary BSIP funding to keep them going until next year. Their open top service has been terminated a few weeks early

    First have also notified Somerset cancel that they do not intended to rebid for the Truro P&R service as it is unviable. They have not formally notified the Traffic Commissioners though so I guess there may be some negotiations on going. If First do give it up are there any other operators with the capacity to take it on

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    1. Where to start Bob?

      I don’t think Somerset Council will be too bothered about Truro Park and Ride, as that’s in Cornwall. As for other operators, I’m sure that Go South West (aka Transport for Cornwall) would be an alternative.

      Buses of Somerset open top service hasn’t been terminated early either. Exmoor Coaster will drop down from peak to standard season as per normal. However, the Dartmoor Explorer IS finishing early but that isn’t open top.

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  8. I did love your comments about delay repay on GWR. On August 9th 2022, yes over a year ago my sisters and I arranged to meet at Coventry Railway Station for my 80th. We were all travelling by Avanti West Coast from Euston, Susan from Wolverhampton and Virginia via LNW & Avanti from Berkhamsted. We got our tickets, but on the day Avanti cancelled my train. I did not go forward (Avanti?) for almost an hour. No real apology. I submitted my delay repay form on line that evening and am still waiting for a reply. I have complained to the Secretary of State for Transport and instead of passing my letter on to the relevant authorities I was told to write to another organisation. I just don’t trust Avanti with my rail travel. From a Senior Citizen

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    1. Other side of coin with Avanti, I had tickets for travel today (1st). No services due to ASLEF strike so last Sunday lunchtime i requested via customer services a refund, by 3pm monies had been refunded to my account complete with an apology

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  9. The various Low Emission zones around the UK are having an averse impact on bus companies. Some are having to pay to enter low emission zones and in other cases the value of the buses are having to be written down as non low emission busses now have little value

    It does not help that each town and city comes up with its own rules. It would be more logical to exempt buses which are normally replaced after 10 years in any case. Even most school contracts specify buses no older than 10 years

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    1. Utter rubbish. There are four classes of Low Emission Zone that can be implemented, all controlled by national legislation. Local exemptions may exist, but that’s beneficial, not detrimental.

      And LEZs are only in a tiny handful of places. Very few bus operators have to pay, in part because grants were made available to retrofit older buses in all locations that have implemented an LEZ so far. Don’t believe what is written in Arriva accounts!

      Further, which authorities are specifying 10 year age limits on school buses? Most are grateful to get anything at all, such is the shortage of bidders for the work.

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  10. We are both on a roll with Southern’s customer service people, as my outstanding, three-times-declined claim from early July has also been resolved satisfactorily.

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  11. Extremely interesting that the former East Surrey Swanley garage, now almost 100 years old, has managed to rise yet once more like the proverbial phoenix, and in an area almost now devoid of buses by comparison with a glorious past. I have almost lost count of the times it has closed and re-opened to various bus and coach operators, and stood almost alone in the LT empire by NOT having a staff canteen. Green Line crews from the “other end”, variously Amersham, Hatfield and finally Garston (Watford) having to take their breaks in nearby Sidcup (Central Buses), and bus crews in Dartford.

    And yes indeed, the appalling state of many bus stops in many counties needs to be addressed. Whinging about “lack of resources” as an excuse not to produce simple basics such as printed timetables, maps and keeping bus stops and their timetable cases up-to-date and clean should be no longer be tolerated. They are an essential part of bus operation and should be costed in as such.

    Kent shouldn’t have too much of a problem, as so many roads are now, or soon to be bus less, they can dig quite a few up.

    Perhaps I missed the point, but surely the lower Stagecoach 700 picture is in the former “Coastliner” livery and not the new (almost respectable) version which may (happily) oust the ghastly school bus version.

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  12. On the topic of Arriva social media, the ‘Arriva Surrey’ Facebook account is still posting promotional material and the like despite them having not run in Surrey since closing Guildford depot in December 2021…

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    1. One Arriva bus on the 477 Dartford to Orpington route is still encouraging people to apply for jobs at their busy Guildford depot

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  13. In my area, the local operator posts details of a one day journey cancellation, due to a staff or vehicle issue, without showing the date, and then leaves it posted for weeks. The information is also posted on the relevant timetable page, which must deter the few remaining potential customers.
    The quality of the information posted on these updates is shamefully poor! Surely local managers should regularly monitor the accuracy and quality of the information posted. It shows a total lack of pride in the presentation of their business and would not have been tolerated in more professional times.
    This is supposed to be one of the ‘high quality’ operators.

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  14. At least one Arriva bus in Colchester invites passengers to scrap their car and receive a free bus pass for use in Kent and Sussex which is probably not a great incentive if you live in Essex.

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    1. Given the huge loss Arriva are making in that part of the world how long will they be around for

      The last set of account wrote down the set values. I assume lots of old non low emission buses that have no great value now

      The auditors would only sign the accounts off with disclaimers. They also stated that in order to keep trading for the next 12 months DB would need to fund them but there is no guarantee that DB will provide the funding

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  15. Welsh News

    T1C Cardiff > Aberystwyth – contract awarded to Mid Wales Travel with no immediate changes but from November there will be a new fare structure.

    T2 Bangor > Aberystwyth – contract awarded to Lloyds Coaches with no immediate changes but adjustments to fares and timetable in November. This service will be integrated with the X28 Aberystwyth > Machynlleth to provide an hourly service throughout the day and connecting into the T1& T1C service in both northerly and southerly directions.

    T3 Wrexham > Barmouth – contract also awarded to Lloyds Coaches, the main change on this route will involve the introduction of a T3C service connecting villages including Llanuwchllyn near Bala to Corwen where they can connect with the T3. This will make the T3 service more efficient and sustainable, improving journey times along the route. There will be adjustments to fares and timetables in November.

    T6 Brecon > Swansea – contract awarded to Adventure Travel. This service has recently been deregistered and whilst the new registration process continues, we will be running this service free of charge during the initial weeks of the new contract in early September.

    T10 Bangor > Corwen – contract awarded to K&P Coaches as mentioned above there are no immediate changes, but fares and timetables will be adjusted in November. In March 2024 we will be increasing the frequency of the service on Saturdays, Sundays and in School Holidays between Betws y Coed and Bangor, providing an hourly service linking into services in Bangor and Eryri/Snowdonia including Sherpa’r Wyddfa.

    “New EV buses are being procured for the whole TrawsCymru network, however there is a long lead time to delivery and we will therefore be replacing some of the older fleet with new Euro 6 diesel buses for the short term as we look to decarbonise the network and confirm charging depot locations.

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  16. I have constant issues with claiming delay repay from Southern, because I have an annual season issued by SWR on a smartcard. Southern love to say that they cannot verify my ticket is valid, yet it us accepted by their ticket gates and scanned by their On board Supervisors. Really irritating.

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