Tuesday 28th July 2026

A whole raft of route changes in south Essex began yesterday. Many tendered routes changed hands with Stephensons gaining work from both Central Connect and First Bus at the same time as those companies introduced interesting initiatives on London’s fringes including a long restored cross boundary route and a brand new one.
I took a look at both new routes yesterday to try and get the measure of them and their potential for success.
First up is Central Connect’s route A3 which provides a restored link along the short bus-less section of road between Waltham Abbey, Sewardstone and the Lee Valley Camp Site, the latter being the northern terminus of TfL bus route 215.

The timetable comprises seven off-peak hourly return journeys between 08:50 and 15:08 with an eight minute journey time and two minutes layover at the Lee Valley Camp Site.

In practice journeys originate in Waltham Cross because west of Waltham Abbey, Central Connect has introduced another new route – the A1 – from Waltham Cross to Waltham Abbey via South Holdbrook giving a better service for the houses and businesses in this small area.
However, when buses get back from Lee Valley Camp Site after an out and back A3 instead of reverting to an A1 and return to Waltham Cross, they continue from Waltham Abbey on a third new route – the A2 – to serve Roundhills on a quick 14 minute rounder, then once back in Waltham Abbey and after that, buses operate the return journey to Waltham Cross as an A1.

It’s an A1-A3-A3-A2-A1 interworking arrangement for one off-peak bus. So, quite an efficient way of providing these new connections.
As well as providing a bus service for Sewardstone for the first time for many years (I still hanker for the ‘good old days’ when London Transport ran the delightful 242 from Chingford to Waltham Abbey/Cross, Cuffley, Potters Bar and South Mimms and before that route 205 ran from Chingford to Hammond Street/Flamstead End) this new route A3 also provides a ‘connection’ with TfL’s route 215 which terminates from the south at the Camp Site, just north of the Greater London boundary, before returning to Walthamstow.

The new A1 also adds to the number of buses now connecting Waltham Abbey and Waltham Cross where other changes this week have seen Arriva extend its route 66 (Loughton/Debden circular to Waltham Abbey and Waltham Cross) to join the 251 on to Cheshunt and Hammond Street providing a new 15 minute coordinated frequency between Waltham Abbey, Waltham Cross and Hammond Street.

Meanwhile Central Connect has also increased the frequency of its route 13 (Waltham Cross, Waltham Abbey to Epping and North Weald) from hourly to half hourly.

All this gives the Waltham Abbey-Waltham Cross link one of the best frequencies it’s had in a long time and I’m sure passengers will appreciate this.

However, the A1, A2 and A3 combo does appear rather confusing especially when in these early days of the new arrangements there’s no roadside information or publicity at bus stops so passengers were naturally completely baffled and perplexed as to what route this minibus – with no working destination blind – was on and weren’t any the wiser when the driver said he was an A1.
But it wasn’t only passengers who were confused yesterday afternoon when I set about doing the full A1-A3-A2 experience. Drivers were also befuddled, as I’ll explain.

I caught the 1340 A1 from Waltham Cross bus station operated by a Mercedes Sprinter still bearing the livery of the old Novus DRT scheme in Leicestershire, albeit minus the brand name. Amazingly we carried another passenger but only to Waltham Abbey, a journey for which he could have caught one of the many other routes.

In Waltham Abbey we turned seamlessly into an A3 and headed down to the Lee Valley Camp Site.
Never mind a lack of information at bus stops – once we’d crossed over the M25 there didn’t seem to be any bus stops so I’m not sure how the lucky residents of Sewardstone with their restored bus service will know where and how to catch it. Maybe it’s hail and ride but nothing indicated it is.

Arriving into the bus turning area at the front of the Camp Site on time at 13:58 our progress was blocked by a 215 on layover although luckily the bus was also due away at 14:00 as well as ourselves.

Obviously there was no information about the A3 at the bus stop here…

…. as there hadn’t been in Waltham Cross bus station where out of date details are on display for non TfL routes from some time ago.

From the Camp Site it was back to Waltham Abbey from where we were due to turn into an A2 for the 14 minute run around the Roundhills residential area.
But that’s where total confusion and misunderstanding contrived to work against it. At the Quaker Lane bus stop in Waltham Abbey driver Omar who’d taken me to Lee Valley and back was a bit surprised by being taken off by new driver Andrew who’d arrived for the shift change in a company car.

Andrew insisted he would next be driving an A1 (as per his duty sheet) whereas Omar and I advised him the next journey was an A2. Omar said he hadn’t been to Roundhills. Andrew said he thought there was a road closure there.
To cut a long story of ten minutes confusion between the two men short, Omar went off in the car and Andrew set off (on what I thought was an A2) but just did a circuit of the Waltham Abbey ring road and back to Quaker Lane. He then waited time until 14:24 and headed back to Waltham Cross as an A1.
I then twigged what had happened – he’d arrived for his handover 14 minutes too early and not realised we hadn’t done the A2 yet. Omar thought Andrew was doing him a favour by letting him get off the bus early.
The only solace from the confusion was I doubt anyone was waiting in Roundhills. No one caught the A3 and only one passenger had travelled on the A1 as already described with none boarding as we headed back to Waltham Cross.
With the split of routes making an A1 to A3 followed by an A3 followed by an A2 and back and then the A1, I can see why three separate route identifiers have been used, but, it’s a recipe for confusion as evidenced by yesterday’s experience albeit it could be put down to Day One teething issues and a lack of clear information and publicity.
However, even when people get used to the pattern of interworking (that’s passengers and drivers) it still means residents of Roundhills although enjoying a direct bus into Waltham Cross, coming home they have to go via Lea Valley Camp Site, or hop off the bus for 20 minutes and wait for it come back from there in Waltham Abbey. Similarly Sewardstone residents wanting Waltham Cross go via Roundhills on the outward journey but not on the return. And I suspect most people living in South Holdbrook, and who can, will find it quicker to walk.

Maybe it will settle down. But, I have my doubts on this one. Furthermore, both South Holdbrook and Roundhills are served by Epping Forest Community Transport’s routes 211 and 212 respectively, albeit both offering just four off-peak journeys, so it’ll be interesting to see if these routes continue, and if so, I’m guessing regulars may stay loyal.
This week’s second new route, which actually does extend fully into London territory, is First’s route B1 which until last weekend was one of a number of local routes in Basildon but has now taken on a new role as a fast link from that town and its western suburbs to Harold Wood thereby providing onward connections via the Elizabeth Line to Romford, central London, Heathrow and Reading.

Route B1 had run every 12 minutes between Basildon’s bus station and Laindon and Southfields west of the town centre as shown on the red route on the old map below…

… now annotated with the additional loop in Southfields before heading off to Harold Wood.

Now, as part of other changes, involving other B numbered routes (including a change to the B2 route) the frequency has reduced to every 20 minutes but with buses extended westwards to Harold Wood taking 15 minutes journey time from Laindon.

Buses run non-stop once they leave the Essex town utilising the A127 and then a couple of minor roads on the west side of the M25 (used by TfL route 346) to reach Harold Wood station.
I caught the 11:00 departure from Basildon’s bus station yesterday morning and wasn’t surprised to still find the old Essex County Council departure list and out-of-date First Bus network map on display at the stand.

If only local authorities and many bus companies would put as much effort into fixing these fundamental ‘attention to detail’ flaws as they do in sending out hyped up news releases about how these new initiatives are so wonderful.

No other retail-customer interface is so woeful when launching a new product.
A dozen passengers boarded in the bus station with three more joining as we wended our way through Laindon and Southfields dropping all but four off- with that number staying on board to take advantage of the new fast link to Harold Wood.

That was quite an impressive number for a first weekday morning of the new facility and hopefully bodes well for the future. The driver told me three passengers had travelled the other way on an earlier journey which was also good to hear. And we arrived on time alongside Harold Wood Station.

Unfortunately there’s no room for the bus to take its seven minute layover in the lay-by by the station itself so it has to continue along Station Road and Avenue Road to the A12 to retrace its route back via Gubbins Lane making for quite a circuit, and I’d imagine easily eating up the stand time on those congested roads.

The bus does eventually return to the lay-by by the station entrance/exit to begin its Basildon bound journey, although you’d never know it from the bus stop plate or the timetable cases below which obviously hadn’t been updated.

I can see a market developing for this useful link especially once word spreads about its existence. However, a driver who was acting as a route learning mentor on board was telling me a bad accident on the nearby section of the M25 earlier yesterday morning closed all but one lane in each direction causing long delays on all surrounding roads throwing the fledging service into meltdown.
Sadly this is not an uncommon feature of the M25, and the A127 also has a reputation for delays too, but such eventualities shouldn’t stop useful initiatives like the B3. I’m glad it hasn’t.

I wish it well and will watch the take up with interest wondering if there are other such applications of fast links from outside London to the Elizabeth Line.
Roger French
Summer blogging timetable: 06:00 TThSSu

Who has the contract from Essex County Council to update the timetables at bus stops?
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Ironically, First!
But I think there is a few weeks leeway in getting all the timetable boards updated and one of the reasons why the Essex bus partnership mandates service changes on certain chosen dates.
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I don’t think First have the contract anymore.
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I fear this lack of detail, publicity, Bus stops, Driver unfamiliarity etc, concerning the A1-A3, something not uncommon with Central Connect, will cause Sewardstone to be left bus less for another decade. I would have thought a fully restored route, Waltham Cross-Chingford (forget the A1 and A2) would have been far more useful and few are going to risk missing northbound connections off 215s from the camping site. Although one can hardly blame Operators from avoiding TfL territory and the inevitable bureaucracy, this link really does plug a very useful gap once more.
The B1 stands a very good chance of success, as seemingly, anything to do with the Elizabeth Line seems to bear fruit. The seats are awful, but the air conditioning great!
Terence Uden
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Roger, any theories as to why, despite all your best efforts (and its being in the realm of the bleedin’ obvious) the bus industry so often gets point-of-sale advertising wrong? It’s pretty basic practice for any retail operation – and service changes are part of business as usual (albeit a complex part), are they not?
And is there perhaps one too many A3s in “your “A1-A3-A3-A2-A1”?
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No – there must be an A2 missing!
RC169
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I think the A1 us a circular.
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Correction: A2
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To appease paper aficionados, maybe those pieces of paper the Central Connect driver is holding with the route numbers on should correspond in size with the paper size displayed on them!!
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indiajthves
I am sure it does / or there are
JBC Prestatyn
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Indiajthves?
Gobbledygook!
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Just Extend the 215 to Waltham Abbey ?
JBC Prestatyn
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“A3 also provides a ‘connection’ with TfL’s route 215” – very tight in one direction (as you found) and 18 minutes to wait in the other!
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There’s a typo in the penultimate sentence “indiajthves like the B3” should be “initiatives like the B1”
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Thanks; now corrected.
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For too long , generally , advertising and marketing for Bus Services has been 2 dimensional – the local paper , a map , and timetable, a route diagram inside and outside on the bus livery maybe. Coach tours at say Hastings were three dimensional – chalk boards, a laid up coach with enquiry staff selling the destinations an hour or a week in advance
Some thought therefore needs to be consider for the “First Week” bus service operations, ideally pre launch too. While changing timetables and posters is difficult at stops where old services are still in operation for new services poles and cases up in advance with “Effective From”…Date (and even think about the no fare service for a week in advance too) timetable.
In fairness Essex website DID have the new timetables to choose from about 10 days in advance of the July change date along with a list of what they were (not always easy to read (comprehend) but it was there)
The A1 A2 A3 seems overly complicated , including using those numbers , I assume ticket machines in a Central Connect zone of operation cannot cope with having two route ones etc in it as explained in a previous blog. The light green livery of the Sprinter at least looks London Countryesque.
I would have done just two routes -Waltham Cross Waltham Abbey Campsite as A1, Campsite Waltham Abbey (via the Meridian Way industrial estate) Roundhills. this loses an element of Waltham Cross Roundhills direct potential but is there revenue from that ?)
There are still areas on the map that look as if there are villages to be connected like Lippits HIll High Beech and Wood Green if the community transport folk wish to take a few more service areas into consideration.
Perhaps Roger’s next Verify project should be West Lancashire where the DRT ./ Dial A Ride has been part converted to a fixed route with change of vehicles , that are now less accessible to disabled users and also have restricted days when folk cannot get to hospital appointments and similar ( I dont know if NHS in the area run their own appointment transport – this is the situation in London where specifically Dial A Ride WONT take you to an appointment – mostly on the grounds of if time missed Dial a Ride dont want to be responsible – they will take visitors to hospitals though)
JBC Prestatyn
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yesterday two young female barged on a london bus in south west london proclaiming (to a driver encased in his perspex fully screened cab) that its under 16 free travel thanks to Mr Burnham (and no showing of London Zip Card). They disputed my observation that it was still July and the England scheme didnt start till August – but I suppose the information must be out somewhere – is it viral on kids social media? I thought it unwise to also query that at least one appeared a tad over the age limit ( which again for London RESIDENTS a Zip card actually gives free travel up to age 18 ) I mentally queried as to if this pair were from outside London or had perhaps lost Zip card priviledgs or were taking the opportunity not to bother carrying one ( sometimes having ones journeys tracked is not a good idea which no fare or cash fare avoids – not that we can pay cash in london )
JBC Prestatyn
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Pause before you hit the send button JBC. Under-capitalisations (Yesterday, London) two young females not female, the information must be out there somewhere etc. Your enthusiasm sometimes gets the better of you!
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By the greatest coincidence we were in Waltham Abbey yesterday wanting to get to the Premier Inn at Sewardstone! Having searched for a bus service and not finding one, we walked.! Then we read your blog this morning! If only we had known before, we might have been on the bus with you! Just so sad there is no publicity, bus stops, timetables etc for it. Doomed to fail again.
David Ball
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That’s a shame David. It just shows the value of good publicity and information.
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I previously came to the conclusion that too many bus companies seemed to believe that their services were only for those people who already knew about them. The A1 A2 A3 fiasco only goes to show that they also believe that even regular customers are assumed to invoke magical powers to make themselves aware of new services
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I don’t know if it counts as a fast link in the way you mean, but there is now a daily “commuter coach” from Stroud and Cirencester to West Drayton (I think) to connect with the Elizabeth Line, and give an alternative to the very expensive ticket prices on GWR’s line via Kemble and Stroud.
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Yes it does operate to and from West Drayton. The service is experimental and will operate three days a week from September, Barnes of Swindon provides the coach. Look up GoStroud to find out more.
Julian Walker
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I would have thought depending on timings that running it into Heathrow might pick up some international travellers enough for a daily service 2 journeys per day
JBC Prestatyn
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Crazy to me that the 215 can’t be extended to Waltham Abbey it’s literally up the road and would make much more sense than the middle of nowhere 🤷🏾♂️ , Also worth noting a strange one a new ECC/BSIP funded later journey on the 397 which runs as 397A operated by CC , Strange we have ECC operating London routes now
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The 215 is a TFL route, that will only be extended if TFL want it extending, as that part of the route is out of the TFL area
SM
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I sense Aaron & Malc M will be expressing their respective views soon!
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Yeah another nauseating essay by Aaron at the ready demanding buses here there & everywhere even though he contributes nothing for them.
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That is rather harse to Aaron. I think if you look at the basic structure of the ideas he has put forward over the last year of blog comments and actually map them to the recent couple of months changes to Herts and Essex bus services there are apparent improvements that have actually come about. Clearly reading the changes of business and residential developments and prodding from the likes of Govt Local Govt and Love Your Bus kind of support is getting both some commercial changes and supported services and the overall additional gist of the TfL Boundary issue is constant source of inefficiency if one does a full origination destination plot by population . I should note that Uno have managed to be cutting a few services by about September , one wonders what problems with lack of revenue paying passengers they have found.
JBC Prestatyn
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“I sense Aaron & Malc M will be expressing their respective views soon!”
How could I not rise to that bait?
I don’t doubt the 215 could be extended “literally up the road” to Waltham Abbey. However, one of the following conditions would need to be met:
I’m guessing none of these conditions is met, otherwise the 215 would already be running to Waltham Abbey.
Extending the 215 would incur cost. The 215 currently has a peak vehicle requirement (PVR) of 5 buses, running every 20 minutes between Walthamstow and Lee Valley Campsite. Extending the route (even if only part of the service) to Waltham Abbey could not be done within the current PVR of 5 buses. It would need at least one additional vehicle.
Let me do some “back of a fag packet” calculations. The current tender for route 215 is published on TfL’s website: Bus tender results – Transport for London. Contract price is a little over £1.5million a year – or £300,000 per bus per year. So, around £835 per day per bus. Would adding one more bus onto the 215 to extend it to Waltham Abbey generate an additional £835 per day in revenue? Possibly not.
Like Roger, I can remember the 242 running to Chingford. It was cut back to Waltham Abbey 40 years ago, a very limited replacement being provided by an Essex County Council tendered route 252, just a couple of journeys in the peaks operated (if I recall correctly) with a Freight Rover Sherpa. Otherwise, the link south of Waltham Abbey through Sewardstone was left to London Country’s 503. The 503 was commercial, but was also cut back to Waltham Abbey in 1988. Its replacement through Sewardstone was an Essex County Council tendered route 505, operated hourly with Metroriders.
Malc M
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£835 extra revenue per day is about 20 extra passengers per journey which I think is not impossible – 10 from the campsite area and 10 through riders from Walthamstow ?
JBC Prestatyn
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The 242 didn’t carry 20 passengers per journey from Chingford 40 years ago. Most of those it did carry alighted at Yardley Lane and so are well served. I can’t see how it would carry that number now.
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@JBC – your optimism is quite something.
If 20 passengers per journey (all day, every day) is realistic, it begs the question why did the previous service over that section (route 505) fizzle out?
Malc M
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Trustybus were running the 505 (every two hours) from Harlow to Chingford, but the Monday-Friday service was withdrawn January 2017, the Saturday, an ECC contract, remaining. In April 2021 this Saturday only link was withdrawn as a victim of ULEZ. Absurdly, the bus waiting time up the road in Waltham Abbey for some 30-40 minutes leaving Sewardstone busless until now. I suspect more fuss would have been made had we not all been reeling from Covid.
Terence Uden
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Thereby making some arguement that a bus service every two hours unless specifically hitting commuter peak or useful shopping journeys is not exactly helpful compared to something if not turn up and go then at least half hourly. Indeed the A3 passenger that went the short part of the route shows folk basically take the first bus to come along ( we know there are exceptions with fares , route or trusted operator that can apply ) and if they get used to more buses then that can help. I simply note that Stewardstone is not a minor hamlet of population and with the industrial area and aim of increasing job opportunities and economic growth ( I think Burnham is still sticking with that ) then priming funding for increased bus services has to have that as part of the evaluation justification.
If the 505 failed unnoticed by TfL due to covid +ULEZ then surely the playing field is uneven given other authorities are solving capitol investment these days by financing electric vehicles to cover routes marginal in there on bus revenue payback. If Waltham Abbey had been in TfL greater london area then I am sure the route would still be running or replaced in part by extension of other routes.
JBC Prestatyn
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(For some reason, my response to Terence posted itself further down the thread.
@Terence Uden – it might be fashionable or convenient to blame London’s clean air standards. However, if the A3 can turn at Lee Valley Campsite, what would have prevented the 505 from using that as a terminus, thus maintaining a (Saturday-only) service through Sewardstone, and meeting TfL’s 215 for onward connections?
Malc M
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Just seen the A3 this morning – it was a ‘proper’ single-decker Central Connect bus.
David Ball
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My thoughts on service change publicity. Its not enough to update your website. You need to attract attention. Every operator and every LTA should have active social media to post updates to. Plus, they should also know about local community Facebook pages are, e.g. “Shout Out [inset town name]”, and post updates there with links back to own socials and website.
Pete
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Echoing some of the above comments: I rode the A3 this morning and the new 19 Epping-Abridge-Ongar route yesterday. Both restore long-lost links and potentially provide very valuable connections, but nobody joined me on either.
Now whilst I love these secret buses, which only ‘we’ know about, it makes no sense to stick a bit of paper with a cryptic A3 in the windscreen and show no info on the electronic blinds (surely programmable), and even less sense to have zero information at stops and locally.
I do hope both succeed and survive, but I can’t promise to keep them going single-handed. Really need to let the travelling public in on the secret!
Jomidav
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Come on chaps … day one and all that!! Never heard of a “soft launch” before? Better to iron out some bugs (as with the driver changeover confusion) when there are few passengers around to upset.
Having said all that … some early publicity at bus stops wouldn’t have come amiss … possibly some judicious posting on bus shelters whilst waiting for the Essex CC contractor to do a proper job.
That B1 extension looks interesting … I can get from London to Sarfend with a Travelcard to Harold Wood and two free buses with my Senile bus pass … may be slow, but worth a try!!!
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Yes, I agree. In my experience, the public are equally critical if publicity is posted in advance – it has happened! – and they miss their bus because they, not unreasonably, think that the timetable posted reflects what is operating that day. Of course, the start date is shown but is often overlooked but it doesn’t really help that many timetable changes happen on a Sunday when publicity operatives may not work over weekends.
Whilst there is always the temptation to get the ‘first day commemorative ticket’ (done it myself!), I think some allowance needs to be made for the inevitable teething troubles. Maybe a revisit, say a month after a given route has started would highlight any structural issues with publicity provision as well as providing a bit more of an insight into the demand for the routes?
Dan Tancock
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I thought the idea of a mainly Sunday change was to allow overtime updating stops ready for Monday
JBC Prestatyn
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It wouldn’t make sense for Central Connect to put up temporary timetables. The parent company of Central Connect (TMS) is the timtable contractor for ECC. Why put up timetables when your parent company is about to do so?
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No, I cannot agree that driver schedules cannot be clear as to which Vehicle they take over and which operation duty times they are to run from day one. Schedules form the basis of wage payments and route costs and matched income tickets sold passes accepted. I did state perhaps a week before free services could be tried as part of marketing – that is your soft launch but the agreed well in advance date everything should be in place – with perhaps an exception of alternative fuelled vehicles that need infrastructure in place which doesnt always happen on time.
I suspect Stephensons/NIBS changes in Essex were all correctly resourced and run (roadworks and normal breakdowns excepted) from day one (well July 26th) indeed an award I might grudgingly have to consider giving to First Essex too.
JBC Prestatyn
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I saw A3 mentioned, and immediately assumed the Airbus services were being reintroduced. Showing my age, I guess.
I wonder why Central Connect chose the A suffix? It doesn’t seem to have any relevance to the local area.
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While it implies Airport I thought it must be Abbey
JBC Prestatyn
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“LONDON TRANSPORT CONECTIONS, 1945 – 1985” details many cross-boundary services provided by bus services other than London Transport – especially those coming in from Essex. Travelcard in 1983 brought me great fun, Eastern National services and buses included in the ticket along with London Country still a powerful force in the area from Grays Garage. Well into the early Travelcard era Eastern National was penetrating as far west as Walthamstow and Ilford, with their Routes 2 & 400 also featuring in my Main Diaries from those years.
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Launching bus routes with no ppublicity (except perhaps on line) seems to be normal in some areas. Route X48 (llandrindod to Craven Arms) still has no roadside information in Shropshire after nearly 2 years, despite Shropshire Council having been told twice. TFL have no interest in posting timetables for non TFL services. Took over two years to post out of date timetables for go bus route 3 Orpington to Sevenoaks, with TFL blaming gobus and vice versa.
Brian Willson, Orpington
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TFL have problems on missing timetables , wrong spider maps ( and plenty of places with no maps where they would be helpful ) perhaps a facebook group of shame needs to be created
JBC Prestatyn
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The ECC contract for posting roadside timetables across the whole county is Central Connect – it was awarded a few months ago. Doesn’t bode well really………
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It partly depends on how ECC specified the contract. Resource-led or demand -led?
On the subject of which, the DfT is advocating for Enhanced Partnerships to have no more than 2 service change dates per year. No-one has considered how long it would take to change roadside publicity in a large county such as Essex if this was implemented, or alternatively the cost of extra resources to achieve the changes over a shorter timescale.
KCC
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I was working in East Horndon yesterday and noticed the B1 (and 351) heading along the Southend Arterial Road. Checking later I discovered there are no bus stops anywhere nearby, which is hardly handy!
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But is there actually anywhere on the Southend Arterial Road where buses could actually stop ? I suspect that any bus stop on the A127 itself would be ruled out on safety grounds.
To serve East Horndon, one option might be for buses to come off the A127 at the A128 junction, double-run about 1km to the first roundabout and then stop at the Halfway House stop on the approach to the junction before rejoining the A127. Would this be worth it for the extra traffic to/from East Horndon ? It would probably add 7 to 10 mins to the round-trip journey time and be extremely annoying for other passengers, especially if no-one got on or off.
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Although the U.K. went metric in 1970, distance measurements remained in miles & continue to this day, as I’m sure you’ll be aware if you’re a driver.
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Apologies – I used OpenStreetMap to estimate the distance and took the 1km straight from that. Using Google Maps shows distances in miles and suggests about 0.6mi double-run for e/b buses or 0.4 for w/b.
Nigel McBride
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Nigel, we’re all being challenged by technology now & in particular, AI. As for the metric system, the U.K. was always half in & half out. No need to apologise, an honest mistake. Kind regards, PB.
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Essex County Council doesn’t have a contractor for posting roadside timetables for the simple reason that they don’t have any roadside timetables, only lists of departures which are useless if you would like to know about what return service there might be before you travel.
I can’t comment about the current ECC contractor but it was extremely random when First Essex were responsible for posting the lists..
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Essex based this format on market research several years ago. It showed that in general, people found a departure list format far easier to understand than a traditional timetable. I’m not sure the inability to see return times is a huge downside- in many cases where full timetables are displayed, not only do many people find them incomprehensible, but the display is only for services in the direction served from that stop!
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Anyone know why the campsite is called Lee Valley when the river is the Lea?
Strikes me that the best way around the A123 situation would be to run it as a triangle:
A1: Waltham Cross – Abbey – Campsite
A2: Campsite – Abbey – Roundhills
A3: Roundhills – Abbey – Waltham Cross
Then at least the drivers, and everyone else, might know which leg they are on.
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The Lee/Lea spealing is long standing difference that no one I know can explain. Might be Essex vs Hertfordshire interpretations of old
JBC Prestatyn
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Problem could be the A1 Waltham Cross Waltham Abbey specifically is designed by Hertfordshire County Council Bus Improvement Plan funded by Hertfordshire Bus Improvement Plan Funding
The Other two seem to be commercial initative I do note the routes seem to finish a bit early and only run M-F. I think there is scope to run the routes to 1800 and do Saturdays too.
JBC Prestatyn
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Whilst Hertfordshire CC provide Local Authority Bus Grant (LABG) funding (BSIP is no more, officially) to the A1, this is on a de-minimis basis and the timetable is devised by the operator.
The reason for the funding is that the A1 vastly improves the number of buses to the Holdbrook Estate in Waltham Cross. Previously buses to Holdbrook were in the hands of a very limited community transport-type operation after being served for many years by an extension of the old C3 route operated by Trustline/Trustybus and Centrebus. It is.one of the most deprived areas of the county.
incidentally, LABG is also funding additional journeys on Central Connect’s 25 service between Harlow and Cheshunt Brookfield Centre.
Dan Tancock
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According to the Uno website the X10 reduction is due to fewer students living in Luton next year. The 602 shorts apparently didn’t pay their way and literally no one on this blog expected the half hourly Potters Bar to Hatfield service to be viable. The rest is minor tinkering.
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Hello! I had the pleasure of riding the new B1 yesterday. I logged into Facebook and saw a post in a local Havering group about First Bus launching a new 20-minute service between Harold Wood and Basildon. At first, I thought it was a joke!
Since it was day one of operation, I just had to give it a go. I left my home in Gidea Park at 15:30, arriving in time for the 15:44 departure. It left a few minutes late at 15:48 but arrived at the original terminus over in Laindon 2 minutes early. This was where the support manager got off. He had spent the journey talking to two bus bashing oap’s, explaining that First has high hopes for the new route and detailing local changes around Canvey. He even admitted that their updates and publicity could be better. Indeed, I found no information at Harold Wood—no timetable and nothing on the bus stop flag. Also disappointing how basic the flags are around Basildon. Perfect advertisement space for the new service.
About half a dozen people boarded at Fenton Way. From there, through Laindon and into Basildon, the bus got surprisingly busy. I returned home on the 16:48, and again, the bus was well-loaded. Because the destination blind now reads “Harold Wood,” lots of passengers were making enquiries before boarding and chatting positively about the changes. I even overheard one passenger suggesting it would be a more convenient way to travel toward Heathrow.
We arrived on time at Fenton Way, with just one passenger left travelling over to Harold Wood, and we picked up the same route guide who was very good explaining the route to the driver who seemed unfamiliar with the route ahead.
Progress on the A127 was exactly as you’d expect—fairly heavy traffic moving at about 35/40mph—so we still arrived at Harold Wood about 4 minutes late.
Potential problems I see is the turnaround time at Harold wood. It’s not ideal having to turn around via the Colchester road as the stop at Harold wood is completely inadequate for even a minute’s layover. However I’d doubt given the chaos Gallows Corner is causing, a layover will never happen! Traffic was unbelievably quiet around Harold Wood at the time. So I believe it’ll be a challenge after the school holidays.
I got back home at 17:50. Considering I caught an Elizabeth line train and walked ten minutes from Gidea Park, I’m 10/10 impressed with the new service. I’ve never travelled with First before, usually TFL, Stagecoach East Mids/East Sussex, B&H & NCT. Brand new electric vehicle too! I sincerely wish them all the best and hope it succeeds!
Pe251lz
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Here in my part of the world (the outer western suburbs of Brisbane) my local routes were upgraded and extended last November. Timetables were available online (one support person seemed surprised that I had one on the first day) but in many previously-unserved places there were no physical stops. However, at the most likely places, posters stating ‘temporary bus stop’ and showing a QR code link to the timetables were attached to lamp posts and, in case, a tree. I have to say that all of the drivers I encountered, many of whom were new to the job or, at least, the area, seemed to know where they were going.
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Good idea?
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tfl-expands-routemaster-ding-ding-trial-after-promising-safety-results-91486/
Pete
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If it works I will accept it , but maybe not how it is being talked about. Few passengers will recall the two bells (three if full) clear to drive away signal from a Trained and Licenced bus conductor who was in charge of the passenger (and commercial revenue arising from them) conditions to a long-standing (was it the Met Police in horse bus days ?) giving a starting signal to the driver. Often accompanied with a shout of “hold very tight please” to the nominally five to eight lower saloon standees , in practice up to 20 persons standing if they were small, and almost certainly upstairs folk were still making their way to seats.
Outside of London as the FLF / Loline and Leyland/AEC variants with forward entrance jack knife or sliding doors became common the driver gained the responsibility for closing doors and moving off (I think for Green Line the conductor still had to close the rear doors which I assume continued in RMC days and I cannot recall what LT did on the batch of RCLs moved to the 149 route nor the NS routes the BEA class were applied to)
I cannot recall how conductors worked with drivers on the Q and RF types , I suspect no starting signal was given and by 1970 the MB / SM family of single decks and OMO RFs were well in much of the fleet along with DMS and similar again once DM pay conductor ones were tried I have a feeling the conductors role became to be a companion for the driver – (the numbers I traveled on were few) Again how was the FRM XA/XF types run according to rule book for starting signals if any to driver?
I recall notice on RT / RMs that PASSENGERS MUST NO GIVE STARTING SIGNAL or something to that effect.
Outside of London what were the last rear loading buses without platform doors in operation , I suspect Hants and Dorset Bristol LDs were the last with manual doors ?
JBC Prestatyn
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@JBC – the RCLs put to work on route 149 had their doors removed.
Malc M
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Interesting comments JBC, you’re obviously old enough to remember the days of conductors on LT buses. I personally recall when conductors were taking fares upstairs & if the bus had pulled up while they were at the front, often looked down the other end where the mirror was positioned & if the platform was clear, would stamp on the floor for the driver to proceed.
I’m not sure if H&D had the last Lodekka LDs with manually operated doors but I do remember the conductresses were just as adept as their male colleagues when closing them! Thanks for evoking the memories, even if that wasn’t your original intention.
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@Terence Uden – it might be fashionable or convenient to blame London’s clean air standards. However, if the A3 can turn at Lee Valley Campsite, what would have prevented the 505 from using that as a terminus, thus maintaining a (Saturday-only) service through Sewardstone, and meeting TfL’s 215 for onward connections?
Malc M
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