Saturday 14th March 2026
And no, it’s not TfL’s circular routes R5 and R10 in Orpington (each running every two and a half hours) nor is it the twice a week route 969 between Whitton and Roehampton Vale.

It’s the once a week, one return journey, route R17 that runs between Carpenders Park and Hatch End. And OK, I accept most of the route is in neighbouring Hertfordshire, but the southern terminus alongside Harrow Arts Centre in Hatch End is very much in Greater London and the route appears on TfL bus stops so I reckon it can be classified as a bus route in London. And it certainly qualifies as a ‘click bait’ blog headline.

As you can see from the timetable below, if you want to travel on the least frequent bus route in London, Wednesday is the day, and 09:45 is the time to be at Carpenders Park station on the Lioness (aka Overground) line.

The route begins on the western entrance/exit to the station at Stop B before taking a clockwise circuit of South Oxhey and arriving back at Carpenders Park station again nine minutes later followed by an anti-clockwise circuit of Fairfield Drive/Gosforth Lane and Hayling Road then continuing northwards on the western side of the railway towards Bushey station crossing under the railway tracks before heading south along Oxhey Lane, down the eastern side of the railway, diverting through the Carpenders Park residential area by the station then back on to Oxhey Lane and finally westwards into Uxbridge Road to terminate at the bus stop outside Harrow Arts Centre.
Here’s the route from Hertfordshire County Council’s Intalink website…

… which lobs off the final 600 yards along Uxbridge Road but that can be seen on Mike Harris’s Greater London Bus Map as well as some of the route in Carpenders Park.

If you’re wondering why Harrow Arts Centre would be a draw for residents of Carpenders Park and South Oxhey on a Wednesday morning it’s the nearby Morrisons supermarket that’s the main attraction for route R17 devotees.

I made my way to Stop U on Uxbridge Road outside Harrow Arts Centre on a recent Wednesday morning wondering how many fellow passengers would be taking advantage of London’s least frequent scheduled bus route and although the bus stop plate acknowledged the presence of the R17, unsurprisingly the timetable panels below didn’t.

I’d been a bit uncertain whether the return journey to Carpenders Park would depart in this westbound direction (as the bus needed to head eastwards towards Oxhey Lane) so was reassured to see a small gaggle of passengers waiting in the bus shelter.

It soon became obvious five of the six waiting knew each other and were happily chatting away in the shelter along with their overloaded shopping trolleys whereas the sixth was more of a loner.

At the 12:45 departure time a Red Eagle Enviro200 approached Stop U…

… and everyone began boarding except who I’d thought was a loner and was obviously waiting for an H12 for South Harrow rather than the R17.

The chatting continued inside the bus and once again I found myself part of a weekly social event on a shopping bus journey of regulars and having to explain my presence.

We set off, making a full turn at the roundabout by Morrison’s and were soon turning off Oxhey Lane into the Carpenders Park residential area. The driver kindly helped one of the passengers off the bus who had a particularly heavy trolley (I can vouch for that, having lifted it on the bus for her) followed by another alighting at the next stop and two more at the top end of the residential area as we were about to rejoin Oxhey Lane.

Another Red Eagle employee had been sitting at the back of the bus and he alighted at Bushey station leaving just me and one other passenger on board as we headed down the western side of the railway towards South Oxhey.

A road closure prevented the normal route along Hayling Road being accessed so the driver did the lower clockwise circuit first much to the consternation of the remaining passenger who wondered whether she’d get home, but once back at Carpenders Park station he headed off along Gosforth Lane against the normal direction so she could access her stop, I left the bus at the station as I wasn’t sure he would return for a third time.

The area is also served by hourly routes 328 and 346 operated by Red Rose Travel between Northwood (Mount Vernon Hospital), Bushey and Watford with the former serving South Oxhey and the latter via Carpenders Park. Interestingly looking back at an old London Transport Country Buses map and timetable from 60 years ago both areas were served in 1966 by a still numbered 346 (and 346A) each running half hourly so although there’s been a frequency reduction there was no shoppers bus to Hatch End in those days, so that’s certainly an improvement. And, in 2026, there’s also another shopping bus, the R16, which Red Eagle runs on Mondays and Fridays linking the area with the Asda and Sainsbury’s stores in North Watford giving residents of the area a great choice for their weekly supermarket shopping. Only Tesco fans miss out.

The R17 offers a nice, but novel, ride and it’s always interesting to see how many people make use of these odd-ball once a week journeys, even in London. My thanks to blog reader Dan for suggesting I take a ride.
Roger French
Blogging timetable: 06:00 TThS

Good to see one or two of these weekly shoppers’ services still surviving and clearly performing a useful community function.
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An HCC contract route
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This does take me back to my favourite obscure Route, the 350 which ran across the London border in 2001. Travelcards were accepted across the border and as there was a JDW in South Oxhey it was a way of saving an excess fare on the railway past the railway zonal boundary of Hatch End. There really are strange road names in Carpenders Park. By-The-Wood and Delta Gain spring to mind. Arriva GR ran the route with selected minibuses mainly using βBUSβ as part of the registration plates. The 350 ran as far as Harrow Bus Station and encountered a bus gate in Headstone Lane. By 11/2004 London passes were no longer accepted and by 06/2006 the route was withdrawn. There were lengthy delays owing to National Grid road works, in Bushey, boosting the electrical supply for the Thameslink line over at Elstree. Indeed, as a referee being picked up by car at Elstree Station for a match at Aldenham School one day my driver needed to divert on this car journey, owing to a road closure. As I had been in the area previously for a wedding I knew the correct way. The 350 TT may still be online at Timetable Graveyard. National Grid were installing a massive underground cable to boost the supply to the Thameslink route.
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Thanks to the Wayback Machine the timetable is still online! Weirdly, just the other day I saw a photo of a bus on route 350 at WFJ station and had to look up the timetable!
https://web.archive.org/web/20050221002602/http://www.intalink.org.uk:80/timetables/tt/350_D_ATG.PDF
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I wonder how many more they are like this?. Would like to see more reviews here
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Although nothing to do with a shopper service, there is a 129 Liscard-Frankby Cemetery that runs one journey each way on Sundays only.
SM
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Hemel Hempstead also has a Sunday bus to a cemetery the timetable does say you should book I think.
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Hertfordshire does have a few more like this. Royston has a regular town service route but also has a second one that is one journey on certain days of the week.
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Royston in Hertfordshire has a regular town service route 16 runs mon-sat but has a second one route 24 that runs one return journey Mon & Wed.
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We quite often use the high-frequency route 110 from Impington to Ely, which runs once a day each way on Thursdays AND Saturdays (Ely market days)! I suspect it carries more passengers a week than yours and my favourite route, Roger, the hourly T2 from nowhere in Cambridge to nowhere else in Cambridge via nowhere in particular at vast public expense.
110 is now run by A2B who have finally got round to putting the timetable on their website (having previously ignored suggestions from me that they do so), and of course the county council (and combined authority and Greater Cambridge Partnership, who confusingly also have a role in public transport) refuse to publish any timetables or maps (or anything vaguely useful to passengers) apart, of course, from the Tiger services like T2, which goes from … oh never mind! Like the R17 the 110 is more a mobile social club than just public transport, even a mobile comedy club at times, and apart from being quite a handy way for a trip out to Ely, which we always enjoy, is great fun!
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Not only hard to find timetables, stephenmorris2578, but also hard to find any link from the main Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority website to their (pretty useless) Cambridgeshire & Peterborough Public Transport website.
However, Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority are expanding their public transport team, ahead of franchising, and have, more latterly, grasp[ed the nettle of the appalling bus top infrastructure which they have inherited from years of neglect by Cambridgeshire County Council. (Although there is some good stop infrastructure around Histon and Impington thanks to the Parish Council.)
Note that Cambridgeshire County Council no longer have responsibility for public transport, other than continuing ownership of the Busway, and funding school transport. Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority are the Transport Authority.
Greater Cambridge Partnership (the delivery body for the City Deal devolved funding) is more involved in infrastructure β new busways, new P&R sites, Greenways, etc β but did also have a role in funding the 30 electric buses operated by Stagecoach.
Cambridge Area Bus Users’ Executive Committee would love to hear of your experiences using local buses. You’re welcome to get in touch via contact.cabu@gmail.com.
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Marginally more frequent than once a week but Staines has the SCC sponsored 570/571/572/574 which fulfil the same shopping brief. Operated by Reptons inbetween school runs with a degree of inter working between the routes.
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Khan should ensure any service terminating in Greater London has full acceptance of the London 60+ travelcard and disabled card ( though on this R17 getting back may be more difficult without payment )
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But you can use any english bus with freedom passes? So it would be fine?
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But Freedom Pass kicks in at 67 years of age. So 7 years of paying to escape into bits of the home counties countryside unless the service is a TfL contract
JBC Prestatyn
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If you fall in that small margin of people… the Mayor of London would want you to keep your money and custom inside London and not subsidise Hertfordshire routes!
Or you could just take the Overground…
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Somehow to me these Market Day services should be operated by a Duple Bella Vista bodied Bedford SB
JBC Prestatyn
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Showing your age JBC. You managed though, to evoke a memory of a market day service down my way that was operated on a Wednesday by Hants & Dorset (Route 114) & carried on for some years thereafter.
My late father-in-law worked for H&D & told me that this was a service everyone at his depot (Lymington) wanted to work because by the time the bus arrived at Ringwood the crew would spend several hours at the local depot doing virtually nothing until it was time to return to Lymington across the New Forest. Although the service was run by a double decker in my time he referred to a Dennis Ace (Flying Pig) that was used in the immediate post war years. Now that wouldβve been fun!
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Just before Christmas, I also went looking for this once weekly operation. The first (southbound) journey operated nearly 10 minutes early. The second (northbound) journey operated “blinded” as an R16 and was being driven as if the driver had stolen it …… and I did think that I had found the wrong bus as there did not seem to be anyone on it, but Bustimes did confirm that it was the R17.
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The map shows just how much the Watford local network has deteriorated over the years once you get away from the interurbans which have benefited from the HCC BSIP investment. When Watfordwide was introduced the 347/348 were the trunk routes and then W7/W8 and W11 provided the local services. I think that was a total of seven buses a hour in either direction.
Now we’re down to just the hourly 328 and 348 (plus a couple of shoppers’ buses and the school routes shown on Mike’s London map). To make matters worse, the 328 is an unattractive product for longer distance passengers since it wanders around almost every road in South Oxhey. Most of Hampermill Lane and Sandy Lane (and the housing to their west) are now completely unserved.
South Oxhey not being able to support a commerical service is incredible given that it has traffic objectives at both ends (Watford/Bushy and Northwood) and mid route (Carpenter’s Park Station and shops).
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What happens to the bus and driver between it arriving at Hatch End at 10.26, and leaving for the return journey at 12.45? Does the driver do his/her weekly shopping then?
MotCO
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The bus then runs dead a fair few miles to Chipperfield to provide another shopping service (R9) to Asda and Sainsburys in North Watford before running dead again back to Hatch End to provide the return R17 service
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It also runs 385 in Watford and a school route to Bushey Meads school…..impressive scheduling
GJS
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In Cardiff we have service 54. This runs from Monday to Friday but only once a day, in one direction, early in the morning. Although open to all, it is basically a “staff bus” for the main Hospital. On arrival the bus then goes into regular service on route 9.
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Route 31 for First Eastern Counties/First Norfolk & Suffolk I would say qualifies as a strange route, It as far as I can see is open to the public, I leave from one of their depots Travels round Norwich City back to the First depot and then continues on to the second depot which it passes
This I would say qualify as a strange service as it runs Monday to Saturday at 0440 only it is 1 journey no run in the opposite direction
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https://www.firstbus.co.uk/sites/default/files/public/maps/FEC%20-%20Network%20Norwich%20service%2031%20-%20Bus%20Times%20from%2005-09-21.pdf
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There used to be a similar route in Ipswich (IB not FEC) – basically a staff bus, but open to all.
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Remind me of a bus route i once saw the timetable for in Plymouth.
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Hatch End… that takes me back to childhood when we used to be taken there on the 209 from Pinner to train spot – D400 type 4 diesels (and still the occasional “Royal Scot” or Stanier class 5 too) thundering past on the “fast” lines!
Anthony Holden
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If anything, this shows how weird and unfit for purpose, the county boundaries around London really are, as they are dividing a single built up area. And the contrast between the R17 and the 142/ 258 serving nearby Bushey towards Stanmore says it all. I know thereβs the Overground but still surprised at a lack of regular bus between both South Oxhey and Carpenders Park towards Harrow. Especially in cases like this, residents with bus passes should get the same free rail travel, that neighbouring people in London enjoy. Some of the gaps in the bus network around London truly are baffling.
Some other examples north of London where services donβt exist at all. Rickmansworth to Northwood Hospital/Ruislip, Cuffley to Crews Hill/ Enfield (railway is not step free – interestingly the 456 to Crews Hill is enhanced to half hourly on Sundays from tomorrow), Waltham Abbey/ Cross to Chingford, Ongar to Romford. Gaps like this don’t seem to exist where London meets either Buckinghamshire or Surrey. Where TFL runs the service like to Watford, Borehamwood, Potters Bar, Waltham Cross and Debden, buses are nearly always early to late, 7 days a week, even where a parallel railway/ tube exists. Compare that to privatised routes that still exist, 306 Watford to Borehamwood β very limited service after evening rush hour, 398 Borehamwood to Potters Bar β Monday to Friday daytime only, 243 β Hatfield to Barnet β no Sunday service, 242 β Waltham Cross to Hatfield, 2 hourly on Sundays! 66 β Waltham Cross to Loughton and Debden, inconsistent frequency Monday to Saturday, only bus that runs in Waltham Abbey on Sundays (16C).
This contrast in bus services is why London is so congested, as a large population surrounds it with subpar public transport. Too many journeys are slow and difficult by bus, in part because the bus service has been neglected for so long.
Aaron
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@Aaron – there may be a reason for this lop-sidedness. The territory in areas such as north of Enfield, or north of Chingford, or north of Romford, is quite rural and sparsely populated. The Waltham Cross / Cheshunt / Broxbourne / Hoddesdon corridor is an exception in that area.
The bus link between Waltham Cross and Chingford withered as long ago as 1986, with route 242 being shortened to terminate at Waltham Abbey instead of Chingford. A very limited minibus service (just a couple of peak hour journeys) was maintained, along with a couple of short-lived shopping trips two days a week. There was also a London Country North East service from Waltham Abbey to Walthamstow, but they threw in the towel in 1988. Its replacement was an Essex County Council tendered service, operated with midibuses, running hourly from Harlow through Waltham Abbey and Chingford to Walthamstow, but that too has withered, presumably through lack of passengers.
Ongar to Romford passes through around eight miles of mostly open countryside. Open countryside doesn’t generally generate much patronage. Ongar itself isn’t huge. The population is a few thousand. It does have reasonably frequent bus links to Epping and Harlow, and less frequently to Chelmsford and Brentwood. Is there demand for a link to Romford? History doesn’t suggest it is promising. There did used to be a bus service linking Ongar with Romford, but that had dwindled to three journeys a day, on market days only, as long ago as 1981. 1982 saw something of a revival, with an hourly daytime service being provided by London Country (route 339, later 501, linking Harlow with Romford via Ongar) but that didn’t last long. Less than three years later it was back down to market days only, 3-4 journeys. And that was more than 40 years ago. Has Ongar grown much since then?
Malc M
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Quirky routes like this make life more interesting. Long live the R17!
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A bit like the route 86 service which runs once a week on Thursdays between Tisbury & Shaftesbury giving people 90 minutes at Shaftesbury to do their shopping
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In the Woking area the bus used on school route 690 is used in the daytime on routes 39A/B/C and 40, supported by Surrey County Council and currently operated by Falcon. Recent previous operators have been Safeguard, Stagecoach and Abellio. The 39B and 40 run a single weekly journey each way (39B on Thursdays, 40 on Tuesdays) serving some otherwise unserved roads, the 40 starts and finishes with an anti-clockwise loop around Send and Ripley. On Tuesdays and Thursdays the bus also does a journey each way on the 39C while on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays route 39A consists of 2 complete trips each way and some part journeys. All these routes except for the school route started life as ‘Access Bus’ routes when London Country converted some Leyland Nationals to be wheelchair accessible.
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Rodger, Tesco shoppers are included as the R16 serves Watford Tesco Extra on the way to and from North Watford
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Even better then. What a choice.
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In re bus links from South Oxhey:
A regular bus to Harrow was tried for around 20 years from 1986 … it withered away because few people used it.
The Overground runs every 15 minutes to Watford from Carpenders Park … most areas of South Oxhey are within a 15 minute healthy walk from the station.
Traffic around Bushey Arches is horrendous at peak times … Arriva persevered but eventually gave up; with a 4 mile journey taking 45 minutes … us locals were not surprised!!
Mount Vernon is mainly a “London” hospital … general health care in the area is at Watford General. The Met Line runs at 4 TPH from Rickmansworth to Northwood, and takes 7 minutes. There is no demand for such a bus link … the last regular service was Green Line 703 in around 1963!!
Just sometimes, bus routes simply aren’t warranted….
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328/346 bus driver here. Yes, Bushey Arches makes things difficult. Many of the 328 passengers (and there is a hard-core of regulars) live ‘up the hill’ i.e. Brampton Road, Hayling Road etc, well away from the station. Frustratingly, the road closure (sinkhole due to collapsed sewer) and the required diversion has left this part of the estate unserved for weeks, with many customers nearly a mile from any regular public transport. This is one set of disruptive works; there are/have recently been others, with significant overlaps.
The 346 through Carpenders Park is much more ENCTS Elderly-heavy on it’s freehold section outside of the peak, and numbers seem to depend on whether people want to go out or not. I note the good weather in your photos, on a rotten day you might have been on an empty bus!!
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whole raft of HCC contract routes do one return journey as week, A number of them are in the 200 to 207 route numbers and are operated by Centre bus. Most now operate a long way from their nearest garage
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Another low frequency route is the 626. Technically 4 journeys a day but they depart just one minute apart
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Do the Whitbread Wanderbus routes still run in Beds? One journey each way twice a month or similar IIRC.
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Yes still runs
Timetables β Wanderbus timetable
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The link was first covered from deregulation day by London Country North West when the long standing 301 from Aylesbury to Watford was replaced by the 501 and extended to Harrow from 26.10.1986 until 22.10.1988. The 350 replaced it. My thanks to John Bull for supplying the dates.
JC St. Albans
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Great to see 3 of us blog readers on the 1245 departure today as well as over half a dozen locals. What an experience π
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The London end of the 350 was replaced by the H18/H19 in March 2006 – this is why the H18 became a circular and the H19 was introduced for the other direction.
The 350 did accept LRT (don’t know about TfL) passes over the whole route – those of you will remember the leaflet that was produced for pass validity.
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In Borough Green, we have the 70 which runs from Wrotham to a big Tesco in Larkfield one journey on a Monday and the 58 from Wrotham to Maidstone one journey on a Friday. Both give about two hours at the destination.
The 70 is occasionally a double decker which is a very tight fit under a low bridge just before Offham which is negotiated very slowly as the driver said the clearance is only just over one inch. Talking to some of the passengers, they were all aware that if they didn’t use it it might get withdawn.
Lawrie
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