First bucks up in Bucks

Tuesday 3rd March 2026

The competitive knock about between bus companies in the Home Counties ratcheted up another notch yesterday when First Bus launched a swipe against Carousel in the shape of two new express routes linking Uxbridge with High Wycombe and Slough.

The first runs direct between Uxbridge and High Wycombe via the M40 and is itself appropriately numbered M40 while the second is an extension to the already fast X74 between High Wycombe and Slough which now continues to Uxbridge.

These two new services follow Carousel’s launch of its competitive route 458 to First’s route 3 between Uxbridge and Slough at the beginning of January which in turn followed First Bus turning up the heat last November with an increased frequency to Wexham Park Hospital as well as a newly numbered route 7X alongside its 7 giving a 15 minute frequency between Britwell, Slough and Langley then either Heathrow Central or Terminal 5 after which Carousel stepped in with alternate journeys on its newly diverted route 103 to Langley’s Axis Park instead of Windsor in January.

That’s was then, but this is now and following its withdrawal from Cornwall a fortnight ago, First is fighting back in Buckinghamshire and, as you can see, redeploying some of the vehicles made spare from the south west into this latest competitive battle.

The new M40 runs fast every half hour on Mondays to Saturdays (no Sunday service) between Uxbridge and High Wycombe via the motorway giving an end to end journey time of just 36 minutes. The first journey leaves High Wycombe as early as 05:15, then 06:10 and half hourly through until 18:45. The last departure back from Uxbridge is at 19:35.

Leaving High Wycombe buses pick up at bus stops along the A40 until Loudwater where they join the M40 at Junction 3 through to New Denham at Junction 1 from where it’s a short hop through New Denham into Uxbridge setting down in Belmont Road for the shops and Underground station.

In the return direction First had hoped (and indeed online timetables still show it) to pick up at Stop N by the Underground station in the ‘bus station’ area, but a message has been added on its website explaining “owing to capacity constraints at Uxbridge bus station, services X74 and M40 will initially not be able to serve Uxbridge Station Stop N as advertised”

…so the first stop for both the M40 and X74 is Stop B in the High Street. It looks like someone jumped the gun in assuming TfL’s acquiescence to using Stop N.

Except just to confuse matters buses are picking up at Stop A rather than the adjacent Stop B.

The M40 provides a much quicker journey between High Wycombe and Uxbridge than Carousel’s half hourly Flightline branded route 102 which sticks to the A40 after Loudwater serving Beaconsfield and Gerrards Cross taking 55 minutes instead of the new M40’s 36 minutes. After Uxbridge buses on the 102 continue fast to Heathrow Airport.

As explained above, First’s second new route is simply an extension of the longer established X74 which for a number of years on its route between High Wycombe and Slough has used the M40 between Loudwater (Junction 3) and Beaconsfield (Junction 2). Carousel’s half hourly route 103 also between High Wycombe and Slough continues on the A40 via Beaconsfield and takes 62 minutes compared to First’s X74 taking 48 minutes which has long been the case.

But buses on the X74 now continue beyond Slough every half hour with a journey time for the new link to Uxbridge of only 25 minutes thanks to going direct along Uxbridge Road, avoiding Langley and Iver/Iver Heath. This compares to Carousel’s 35 minute journey time on its half hourly route 458 and 42 minutes on First’s half hourly route 3, so quite a time saving.

And, as you might have worked out, this means whereas in January eyebrows were raised at the thought of four buses an hour between Slough and Uxbridge (with Carousel’s new 458 taking on the established First Bus 3), from yesterday, there’s now six buses an hour (with the newly extended X74) with all three services taking slightly different routes and resultant varied journey times.

First points out “customers travelling from Britwell, Farnham Road and Godolphin will benefit from a direct, one-fare journey to Uxbridge, without the need to change buses” in Slough but I wonder how much ‘cross Slough’ to Uxbridge demand there is. It doesn’t strike me as being a huge market.

In its pre-launch online commentary promoting the new services, First Bus points out the convenience for anyone wanting to access the Metropolitan and Piccadilly lines in Uxbridge as well as giving “commuters a genuine alternative to travelling by car”. But again, I do wonder if there are many motoring commuters driving over to Uxbridge to take the Underground into London. There don’t seem to be any commuter friendly car parks close to the station with those that are there limited to shopping stays. I’m guessing this line sounds better from a PR perspective than “giving a genuine alternative to travelling with Carousel Buses” which might not land so well.

George Burton, Head of Network at First Bus is quoted online explaining “using the same direct route as a car journey, the M40 will get people from High Wycombe to Uxbridge in as little as 20 minutes, helping customers save time, fuel and parking costs compared with driving. The service is designed specifically for commuters, offering a simple, reliable and stress-free way to travel between major Buckinghamshire towns and the outer suburbs of north west London, linking with the Metropolitan and Piccadilly lines at Uxbridge station.”

I’m not sure where George gets his 20 minutes from as the timetable shows a journey time of 36 minutes and I’d have thought Chiltern’s rail service would be much quicker and more convenient for commuters.

First’s newly enhanced four buses an hour between High Wycombe and Loudwater are jostling with Carousel’s six buses an hour (as well as local buses as far as east as the Retail Park) giving what must be one of the best frequencies for some time along this corridor.

I gave both new routes a try out yesterday morning along with one or two other curious first time passengers and a handful of genuine passengers surprised they could now get between High Wycombe and Uxbridge and Slough and Uxbridge much quicker than the alternatives. But the big question is … are there enough end-to-end passengers who can be generated to justify these significant increases in service provision and resources.

First Bus has operationally linked the two routes in High Wycombe so Slough based drivers can be efficiently scheduled on to the M40. It looks as though nine buses are needed to run the combined two routes whereas I believe route X74 between High Wycombe and Slough used to take four buses. So, an increase of five buses is quite a commitment especially as at least two of the additional buses are competing with itself – ie route 3 between Slough and Uxbridge, as well as Carousel’s 458, and between Loudwater and High Wycombe with the X74 (as well as Carousel’s 102/103/104/105)

It’s not like First to plough resources into a competitive battle of this kind so George and his colleagues must have confidence there’s a commercial future for First’s business in Slough and unlike Cornwall will fight to retain and even grow market share.

In which case I was a bit surprised (well, not really) at the rather lacklustre marketing supporting the launch of these two new high profile routes. Unless I missed it, there was no printed literature (leaflets, timetables etc) to support the new services, only the usual confusing presentation of the timetable on First’s website (once you’d found it) including the ridiculous inclusion of stop codes, in some cases comprising 12 digits, which add nothing to the comprehension for passengers.

It’s not exactly an enticing presentation to attract new passengers and although the section of route between High Wycombe and Loudwater is common to both routes – presumably leading to the decision to combine both routes into a presentation in one combined timetable layout – as you can see, most of the route/s is/are separate and appealing to different markets. The X74 shows very few timing points for the length of route and note also journeys on the bottom half of the layout between Loudwater and High Wycombe are consequently not in time order due to the differential journey times, making for a non sensical presentation.

Still, at least the ridiculous AI generated minute by minute variation in timings has been ditched, but why, bearing in mind the latest development, can’t the online presentation be immediately updated and remove the reference to using Stop N in Uxbridge?

And, I have to ask, what other commercial business launching a new product with getting on for a million pounds worth of revenue needed to cover the additional costs – would do so using branding that’s completely alien to the area served – ie buses branded as First Kernow.

All the green livery achieved yesterday was confusion among passengers waiting for a bus on Flightline 102 leading to drivers having to explain the route was via the M40 not via Gerrards Cross and Beaconsfield each time.

Now I’m sure people at First will say, there wasn’t time to get the buses repainted, well, in that case, why not delay introducing the new routes until they’ve been painted? Why waste all the potential marketing collateral for a new route launch running buses promoting Transport for Cornwall …. with external adverts for Open Events at Plymouth and Truro colleges …. in Uxbridge amid a sea of London’s red buses? It’s incongruous and confusing.

I see on social media some former First Kernow buses have been repainted in a bespoke livery for the launch of the newly won Chelmsford Park & Ride contract commencing this Friday so if it can be done for that why not for the company’s own commercial venture?

More positively, although bus stops B (or even A) were devoid of route numbers and timetable information for the M40 and X74 (as was N)…

… it was noticeable after leaving the confines of Uxbridge town centre someone had been out and I’m guessing unofficially added X74 to TfL’s bus stops – well, it’s no good waiting for them to get round to it…

… and while I was in High Wycombe bus station someone (I’m guessing from Carousel) was updating the displays at the departure stands…

… and the timetables on the back walls had had both the M40 and X74 added.

Sadly the electronic departure signs hadn’t been updated.

On my return journey from High Wycombe to Uxbridge on an M40 on the M40 the overhead gantry signs were ominously advising of an “Incident” ahead with a reduced 50 mph limit…

… and just as we got to the exit for the M25, the traffic came to a standstill.

While motorists dangerously veered off to take the M25 as an alternative, we obviously couldn’t do so and joined the stationary queue for quite some time.

But luckily it started moving again after about five minutes and we reached Uxbridge with enough stand time not to delay the return journey to High Wycombe. But it does demonstrate the risk of using motorways, although traffic on Farnham Road in the Slough Trading Estate area was just as bad on the X74 with temporary traffic lights causing delays followed by another set north of Farnham Common.

The perils of modern day bus operation.

It’ll be interesting to see how this latest competitive development plays out; whether Carousel will respond, and who will blink first. I can’t see the M40 generating enough revenue to justify its costs and the X74 extension is likely to damage revenue on the 3 and 458 possibly putting the latter in jeopardy.

Let’s see what the next move is and by who.

Roger French

Blogging timetable: 06:00 TThS

44 thoughts on “First bucks up in Bucks

Add yours

  1. I agree, I cannot see why Uxbridge is the centre of the universe, and commuters are not going to change their travel patterns until they are confident the new facilities will be around for some time, which they won’t be as all three operators must be losing money.

    What started out as a miffed Carousel reacting to Reading Transport deciding to reclaim the Reading – Henley route has now spread to a three way fight First, Carousel , Reading.

    My guess is that Carousel will be losing a lot of money, and now First will be with the service enhancements Roger has covered above. Reading seem to be biding their time but they are of course the smaller player financially. Will First fight it out, that’s the big question? Uxbridge is not the centre of the universe, if they are to prevail they need to work out where Carousel is making their money and it’s not Uxbridge

    Like

  2. All this bus fun to the west of Uxbridge leaves one group very much out in the cold – those good Surrey folk who live in Reigate. Come back LCBS, all is forgiven.

    Like

  3. All very interesting – thanks for this detailed review, based on actual travel experience!

    The complication of rail tickets is well-aired, but – as you point out frequently – it pales beside the difficulty of trying to understand which bus to get, and when and where! Usually getting a ticket is the easy bit … but the timetable etc. confusion is all down to poor PI practice amongst the bus companies (of course there are some shining examples of good practice, which you point out when you come across them).

    Adding the X74 to the Slough-Uxbridge mix might actually be good; there has long been a lack of a fast, direct service, as it complements the other routes, which serve the points in between more than people who want inter-urban-express travel. Of course, the First bus managers have not talked to their First GWR colleagues, so that connection into the fast GWR trains to Reading (for Bristol, South Wales and South-west England) is very poor in one direction and too tight in the other. Thomas Ableman recently highlighted in one of his Freewheeling blogs that a crucial part of the very successful Swiss Taktfahrplan is regular meetings between transport operators specifically to look at improving integration. Google Maps suggest bus to Langley and then the Elizabeth line to get to Reading – longer journey, less obvious routing.

    Look forward to your next blog

    Like

  4. I can sort of see the rationale for the M40 . . . rail fares from High Wycombe to London are eye-wateringly high . . . £46.30 for a peak Travelcard, compared with £23.60 from Uxbridge. There has long been a market for cheap travel from HW to London, which Green Line tapped into (with 10 peak coaches at the high-point) . . . maybe First are hoping to revitalise that market? There is a time penalty, for sure, but the certainty of a seat at Uxbridge on the train and a through train to the City might help.

    From Slough the rail Travelcard is £31.20, so the differential isn’t as obvious, and the Elizabeth Line does connect through to the City . . . so the X74 extension isn’t quite as sensible.

    The difficulty with motorway or non-stop links is, of course, that end to end passengers are the only market available, whereas a stopping service has more opportunities to sell the seat, maybe more than once. As Roger says . . . the first one to blink . . .

    As far as removing / replacing branding is concerned . . . even a sticker across the Kernow branding, perhaps in an alternative colour, would have been better than nothing. I am reminded when Metroline bought First London West . . . all buses had legal lettering replaced and a sticker across the First branding applied over the first weekend . . . around 500 buses!! More recently, when First bought Transdev London, much the same took place . . . around 800 buses?

    For sure, some of those buses were missed over the initial weekend, but surely First could’ve managed half-a-dozen buses over a week? Lack of commitment? Penny-pinching? Just not caring? The adverts are probably the responsibility of the advert company, so may have to wait until they realise the buses have moved!

    The screens at Wycombe are (AFAIK) updated by Bucks CC . . . I daresay they’ll be done by Wednesday! It was good to see that timetable posters were in place. As far as Uxbridge is concerned . . . perhaps First should’ve checked with TfL first before assuming they could use the Bus Station? Even Carousel’s “country” routes stop at York Road or the High Street.

    Like

    1. When First acquired RATPDev’s London operations it took several weeks for the bulk of the fleet to receive new fleetnames and legal lettering (although a handful of buses were dealt with before the deal was completed. As far as First’s latest offering from Uxbridge some of the ex Kernow E400s have a fair number of battle scars! Even if a repaint (or “debranding”) wasn’t considered practicable the buses could at least have been put through the wash!

      Like

    2. If you use PAYG the daily cap within Z1-6 is simply £16.30 all day. That’s a saving of two dozen sterling when you include two £3 paper or PAYG M40 singles. Still quite the time penalty to Central London, though.

      Unless the inboundary Z1-6 Anytime Day Travelcard is Railcard-discountable (it isn’t with the Network RC) anyone who buys it is giving money away.

      Like

    3. Bee Network in Manchester still have buses in operators original livery with just Yellow, Bee Network stickers plastered on & it doesn’t half look ugly, even though i know the buses will be going either for a repaint or withdrawn

      SM

      Like

  5. whilst travelling on an ex first capital citybus on Sunday that carousel are ceasing one of the competitive routes in the near future.

    the obvious for reading is to wait it out then move in when the others get bored. I suggest in due course a couple of semi fast routes to the even more interchange hub of Shepherds Bush lettered maybe A and B

    JBC Prestatyn

    Like

    1. Good last suggestion JBC. Only one problem, where are Reading going to source the Bristol Lodekkas to operate them?!

      Like

  6. Ironically the House of Commons Transport Committee took evidence on joined-up journeys achieving and measuring transport integration last week . I don’t think anyone from First attended but Martijn Gilbert (Managing Director at Arriva UK Bus) certainly did. This would have been an interesting topic to discuss

    Martin W

    Like

  7. I’m enjoying this battle immensely, with 6 (occasionally 7) buses an hour now serving my nearest stop on the edge of Uxbridge, but can’t see it lasting the year out. A chap from First came up in a van from Portsmouth (no-one local to do that sort of thing apparently?) to put up route numbers and timetables on the TfL area stops having bought the security Allen key for TfL’s timetable frames from a hardware shop, but I’m guessing he felt bus stop A (or B!) in the town centre was just too busy to mess around at unassisted with a step-ladder. I can’t see the new route starting from stop N any time soon as TfL took half the stops in Uxbridge bus station out of use a few years back for some reason so the remaining stops are already overloaded. Stopping arrangements are a real mess, with terminating routes in particular dumping passengers at various unfriendly locations. So much for TfL’s “Every Journey Matters” slogan.

    Like

  8. As always a very concise report on a conflict that will do no good for any of the companies or the industry.

    I think First have missed a simple branding opportunity which could have given these routes a better launch. If green buses had been concentrated on these routes – to compete with green Flightline ones – all that was needed was a few new vinyls to create an image. I would have proposed ChilternLink for these routes!

    In this new era of integration perhaps someone can bang some heads together and sort this out!

    Richard Warwick

    Like

  9. I think that’s a pertinent observation regarding the operator not paying the same level of attention to the vehicles used on its commercial service, to those used on tendered / contracted work.

    In my home city, there’s an operator that runs truly worn out kit – up to nearly 19 years old – on a commercial offering, with a ten minute frequency. Conversely, the same operator runs contracted services with, much newer, electric buses. I would imagine the people of Evington really struggle to see where the ‘Enhanced’ of Enhanced Partnership comes from, particularly as they had much newer buses when First operated the route. Too many operators are all about chasing subsidy, and financial support, rather than going for robust revenue growth by increasing passenger numbers.

    Like

  10. At least these routes seem to offer something different from the incumbent services.

    But it’s hard to see this level of competition lasting, the subsidies from Heathrow and the BSIP payments surely aren’t large enough to the increase in costs from all the extra mileage elsewhere.

    Reading seems to be least financially exposed, assuming the 28, 702 and 703 are profitable their other commercial mileage in Slough is relatively limited.

    Like

  11. Maybe keeping the buses in Kenrow livery was done deliberately. Basically saying “if you knock us out of the competition somewhere else (i.e. Cornwall), those buses are likely to turn up and compete on one of your favoured patches…..”

    Like

  12. I live relatively locally to these two new routes but I can’t imagine either of them lasting very long. The Carousel 102 and 104 are more than adequate for the Uxbridge to High Wycombe corridor.

    First tried reinstating the “fast” route between Uxbridge and Slough some years ago and it was a complete failure. I don’t know what they think is so different about the travel market between these two towns now. Most locals are happy with the number 3, especially now it has regained an evening and Sunday service.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Many thanks to Andrew (above) for explaining how the bus stop flags outside Uxbridge came to be updated in time for the first day – it clearly wasn’t TfL that did it!

    We’ve had quite a lot of new services in this area in the last couple of years, and have become accustomed to launches involving not just timetable leaflets but also timetable booklets, door-to-door leaflet drops and so on. But of course Firstbus don’t produce written publicity so there was no chance for them to have staff at bus stops handing it out and explaining the new services to intending passengers. So it was low-key compared with other recent changes. The fact that about half the buses in service on the first day were still in ‘Kernow’ green livery was particularly unfortunate because many passengers waiting at the stop at Uxbridge High Street thought it was a Carousel 102, and this added delays to those which inevitably occur on first days due to unfamiliarity. It took Firstbus at Slough many months to re-livery all the double-deckers which were cascaded from Glasgow when they re-launched their airport services 4 and 7 a couple of years ago (and indeed there was still a Streetlite running around Slough yesterday branded ‘Solent’) so we can expect this confusion to last for a while yet.

    The chances of the M40 proving popular for commuters must be made even more questionable by the distance from the Station to the bus stop in the High Street, and it’s surprising that they didn’t extend the route to Heathrow to compete more effectively with Carousel’s 102, but perhaps serving Terminal 5 for British Airways staff and passengers, since the 102 serves the Central Bus Station. I’m more confident about the likely success of the extension to the X74; Uxbridge is a university town (Brunel University) with many students living in Slough, and the extended route will open up new opportunities for students living in the west of the town. I saw evidence of this on the first day.

    Bob Westaway

    Like

  14. Many years ago, when Arriva was operating and it’s Explorer ticket existed, it was valid on First Bus journeys in the Slough area.

    Arriva have gone from Buckinghamshire and so has the Explorer ticket.

    It would make sense for public transport in Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Hertfordshire and Essex, to have on area wide travel ticket, in London this has been done, but outside London it’s a mess.

    Liked by 1 person

    1. Intalink Explorer used to be valid on all Herts buses, Arriva stuff in Essex, Arriva stuff in Bucks (and Berks) and even as far as Luton and Milton Keynes (just not Heathrow or Uxbridge), as well as Carousel buses (including Uxbridge but not LHR), and likes of Red Rose/Line/Eagle too.

      But then Herts modified the ticket to be county-only, with odd crossborder route, if going into the county (or out of it but starting journey in Herts).

      That was when Berks and Bucks should’ve brought up something of their own, but clearly couldn’t be bothered to! Where’s the local pressure!

      At least a Thames Valley day ticket exists now, which is also valid on Reading and Newbury services, but it took several years to persuade them to offer it.

      However, things could be a lot better, and I feel every county should offer their own multi-operator ticket as bare minimum.

      Like

  15. Well I’m always going on about it, but in Oxfordshire we have a ticket valid on all buses. MyBusOxfordshire. Just £6.50 for the day. Like a London travelcard but for Oxford and surrounds. It sets a really good example of what can be achieved…. (CH, Oxford)

    Like

    1. Hertfordshire has the Intalink ticket, valid in the county and certain routes beyond; Essex has the Travel Essex Saver, also allowing some cross boundary travel. So it’s not exactly a barren desert.

      Like

      1. Unfortunately the Intalink Explorer has turned into a mix of Intalink Connect tickets which don’t reach as far as they used to. They are a bit cheaper but Arriva used to accept it all the way up to Milton Keynes!

        MK, being at the crossroads of Bucks, Beds and Northants, doesn’t really have a ticket for multiple operators that lets you cross into other areas.

        PS: I tried the Travel Essex ticket last Saturday and had a LOT of issues with operators such as Stephensons and Central Connect accepting it. Most were persuaded but one wouldn’t move until his manager had checked it over!! Think a refresher is needed…

        Like

        1. Which operator did you buy it from? If it came from a Ticketer it should be issued with a QR code and readable to other Ticketers (granted SoE/NIBS use TransMach nowadays)

          In contrast, last summer I rode the SoE 301 to/from Saffron Walden with an Intalink Connect and drivers had no issue with it even though the route’s all-Essex beyond Bishop’s Stortford.

          Like

          1. The Intalink Explorer permitted travel outside Hertfordshire for journeys with one end in the County.

            The ticket had become, almost by default, the “rover” ticket of choice for Arriva the Shires and Carousel, with some Essex routes as well, so in theory journeys from Saffron Walden to Oxford or Reading were possible!!

            As the revenue sat where it fell ( no complex reapportionments were necessary), although whether anyone tried such a journey is unknown … there was a story of a passenger being refused travel at Reading one day!!

            Like

          2. One was First Essex issued on bus, one was Arriva app. Arriva didn’t accept the First one and nothing but Arriva accepted the First one… Central Connect and Stephenson’s accepted neither.

            Like

      2. [Day rover tickets]

        So it’s not exactly a barren desert.

        And the best of all in my opinion just has to be the Discovery ticket, valid on most operators from Kent all the way across to Hampshire (technically “east Hampshire”, whatever that is, but it’s certainly valid on all Stagecoach South daytime routes), and as far north as Greater London (Kingston on Falcon 715, possibly the last remnant of Green Line south of the river).

        Not bad for £10 adult or £20 family!

        Like

  16. Wouldn’t it be great if there was a UK-wide rover ticket. No worries about validity crossing country boundaries etc.

    Like

      1. So back to Oxford and “MyBusOxfordshire”. Here, it is popular, and I think cross-subsidised with BSIP monies – the take-up has been extensive.

        What happens in Oxfordshire is because of the £3 cap, then returns from the county towns to Oxford are often £6. Some drivers are in the habit of saying to passengers “Would you like to supersize your ticket for just 50 pence more, and you can have all the buses in Oxford upon arrival?”. The answer is almost always “That’s a bargain, yes please”.

        So get a coffee in Summertown, a walk by the river in Iffley, visit an old school friend in Marston, browse a second hand bookshop in Headington – all for just 50 pence extra.

        I do get the bus enthusiast point. But targeted and marketed well, suddenly these tickets can become very useful (and cheap) to the regular travellers. (CH, Oxford).

        Like

    1. Wouldn’t it be great if there was a UK-wide rover ticket.

      Even back in NBC days there was no such thing. The National Wanderbus ticket wasn’t truly national as it only covered south of a line from the Humber to the Mersey, and the Explorer ticket although nominally all-NBC depended on individual operator take-up; some NBC subsidiaries allowed its use on all services but others only on certain specific routes.

      And there was never a Scotland-wide rover issued by the Scottish Bus Group, either.

      Perhaps we should just do a Luxembourg and fund public transport entirely from general taxation, making it free at the point of use. OK, I’ll take my tongue out of my cheek now!

      Like

  17. It seems like normal practise from First Berkshire to withdraw from their prime operations but introduced new routes when they’ve suddenly faced competition.

    These changes have exact echoes from when the 7 series routes were withdrawn in 2016 and the link from London Road in Langley to Heathrow was cut. It wasn’t long after that Thames Valley introduced the 703. First then introduced the route 9 operating direct from Heathrow Terminal 5 to Slough and was interworked with the 8.

    This has only come about because Carousel recently introduced the 458. Why they felt the need to compete with First on the link between Uxbridge and Slough I don’t know.

    The network around Berkshire and Buckingham really needs to stabilise. It’s all well and good having all these improvements but everyone knows what’s the rough outcome will be.

    Like

  18. I don’t think this is going to end well – overbussing on these routes.

    You stated “. But again, I do wonder if there are many motoring commuters driving over to Uxbridge to take the Underground into London.”

    If you require the Underground, you don’t drive to Uxbridge.

    There is a large car park at Hillingdon on the A40 junction – this car park fills up before the end of the morning peak. Been there and done that

    The next station in, Ickenham, has a good sized car park but I don’t know if it fills these days – years ago it did not.

    Next Met line in is Ruislip – a good size and always spaces so we use that from High Wycombe. Much cheaper for a family day out into London than the Chiltern Line.

    Like

  19. Is traffic a bigger problem on motorways than other roads? IMX you’re every bit as likely to encounter congestion off the motorway as on it – how often have you reported on journeys being delayed because of roadworks? – and if the delay is severe and is known then drivers can divert onto the A40, although if the motorway is snarled up that badly then the odds are that all the alternative routes will be as well.

    Like

  20. Some routes like this between Hertfordshire and major tube and Overground stations would be really appreciated. In fact, reviving Greenline as a way of connecting towns in the Home Counties with zone 6 stations would make a lot of sense. If Uxbridge can have this, why not High Barnet, Cockfosters and Chingford? Limited stop buses to Loughton too etc.

    Jealous of the Chilterns where Carousel seem to have brought out a lot of good lately.

    Aaron

    Like

  21. I sampled the new extended X74 yesterday from Uxbridge and buses are now picking up at Uxbridge Bus Station stop O (not N), alongside the 3 and 458. Buses set down at Belmont Road then stand out of service on York Road / Sainsbury’s.

    The M40 however is picking up and setting down in York Road / Sainsbury’s (stops W and V) as per Carousel 101/102/104. There is a footpath running alongside the bus depot to reach these stops direct from the bus station.

    Martin Hazel

    Like

Leave a reply to AndrewSub8 Cancel reply

Blog at WordPress.com.

Up ↑