Hertfordshire welcomes another two new bus routes

Saturday 25th November 2023

As highlighted in my recent blog about Hertfordshire’s new bus route 908, two further new routes began in the County on Monday this week so I took a ride on that first day to see what they bring to the network.

Route numbers used are 721 and 725 rather than in the 900s.

Timetables on the Intalink website show both routes being part of the fledgling Connect Herts brand (as the 907/908 are) but I didn’t see any other references either on bus stops or on the vehicles, which were all in Arriva’s standard aqua blue livery.

The introduction has meant a substantial extra commitment for Arriva with six vehicles needed for route 721 and five for route 725. Oddly, the former runs only on Mondays to Fridays while the latter is a Monday to Saturday operation.

The number 721 has a logic in that much of the route supplements the long standing route 321 between Luton and St Albans which then continues south to Watford whereas the new 721 heads west to Hemel Hempstead. A coordinated timetable between both these half-hourly routes has given a welcome 15 minute frequency in both directions on the common section, which makes it even more odd the 721 doesn’t run on a Saturday.

Between St Albans and Hemel Hempstead, departures on the 721 are fairly evenly spaced with Arriva’s half hourly route 302 (16/14/16/14 eastbound and 20/10/20/10 westbound) albeit, slightly different routes and journey times are taken as will be explained shortly.

The number 725’s logic arises from much of its hourly route between Rickmansworth and Welwyn Garden City (via Watford, St Albans and Hatfield) duplicating the hourly 724 on its long haul from Heathrow Airport to Harlow. At Welwyn Garden City the routes diverge with the new 725 continuing to Stevenage (via Welwyn and Knebworth) supplementing the recently introduced hourly route 908 while the long standing 724 continues via Hertford and Ware to Harlow.

Timing coordination varies on the common sections depending on direction. From Welwyn Garden City to Rickmansworth there’s a perfect half hourly departure between the 724 and 725 but in the other direction from Rickmansworth to Welwyn Garden City the 724 is just 10 minutes behind the 725 for the 88 minute journey. Indeed, the journey time varies too, as each takes a different route between Hatfield and Welwyn Garden City and the 724 has a five minute pause in St Albans.

Between Welwyn Garden City and Stevenage there’s excellent coordination between the 725 and 908 with half hourly departures from bus stations in both towns although slightly different routes are followed between Welwyn Garden City and Welwyn. In Stevenage the 725 continues beyond the town centre to terminate at Lister Hospital where it enjoys a generous 29 minutes layover whereas the 908 terminates at the bus station,

Timekeeping observed on both routes on Monday seemed pretty good except for my first journey on the 725 – the 09:50 from Rickmansworth to Stevenage.

The bus didn’t arrive into Rickmansworth until 09:50 from its previous journey – 18 minutes late – which I’m guessing was after encountering heavy traffic during notoriously congested peak time roads in the M1 and M25 area near Bricket Wood.

We therefore left ten minutes late and it was soon obvious passengers boarding through Croxley, Croxley Green and in Watford had all been waiting for the 724 which online tracking showed was one minute behind us. They all alighted on the common section of route.

At Watford Junction bus station the 724 caught us up and left ahead of us while waiting passengers boarded us. I knew it was the 724 as it was a branded bus for the 508/509/510 (again).

The 724 is limited stop with a list of bus stops additional to the timing points shown on the online timetable…

… but there’s no such information shown on the 725 timetable but I’m guessing it must be similarly limited stop on the common section as we passed at least a dozen passengers waiting at various bus stops along the way with their hands out looking puzzled as we sped past them.

Stops had all been updated to display a 725 number along the route and as far as I could see timetables were on display.

Certainly they were at Stevenage bus station.

The busiest section of route was between St Albans and Hatfield helped by a dozen students attending the University some of whom had boarded in Croxley and Watford thus enjoying quite a long journey for their studies.

All told, around 30 passengers travelled which on the one hand is very good going for a new route’s first morning but on the other hand the journey on route 724 must have carried 30 less passengers. I hope Arriva have taken account of the potential abstraction in this new network when submitting their bid to run the new service.

From Stevenage I repositioned myself to Luton and caught the 13:31 route 721 to Hemel Hempstead. 12 passengers boarded in Luton travelling south, two of whom alighted locally in Luton, but most carried on to either Harpenden and St Albans and we picked a few more up in the former.

The bus itself looked as though it had previously been used on an airport service (possibly the 724) as it still retains the luggage pen on the offside behind the driver which isn’t really appropriate for the type of service it’s now on.

It doesn’t look as though this route is limited stop as all stops in Hertfordshire had the number 721 added and as it supplements the all stops 321 it would only cause unnecessary confusion to do so. Although the little sticker alongside the number 721 states “including limited stop services” which confused me again.

Neighbouring Luton Council hadn’t updated the bus stop plates at Luton Interchange but it was good to see the timetable departure list had been done.

Real time signs also included departures on the 721 too.

In St Albans the bus emptied out and I also alighted to have a look around while the bus waited for 12 minutes (eight minutes scheduled stand time and four minutes more because we arrived early). I appreciate the need to coordinate times with the 321 and 302 as explained earlier but it’s not going to encourage passengers to make ‘cross St Albans journeys’, which this route now offers, with such a long pause time.

I even had time to take a few photos, pop into M&S and use the toilets on the first floor and surprised the driver when I got back on the same bus!

The continued route taken to Hemel Hempstead is via St Albans Abbey station and the St Stephens and Verulam residential areas before taking the A4147 through Leverstock Green and direct into the town centre along the A414 taking 22 minutes rather than the longer route via St Albans City Hospital and Adeyfield taken by the 302 which takes 33 minutes. (See my annotated map of St Albans below.)

We only carried four passengers between St Albans and Hemel Hempstead who could have used other routes but once people get to know how much quicker this more direct option is I reckon it’ll attract more passengers (including abstraction from the 302) but also new passengers from the St Stephens and Verulam areas to and from Hemel.

In another development from Monday, route 302 was extended to terminate at Hemel Hempstead railway station providing an extra link to the town centre and Adeyfield area as well as a new link to Leverstock Green.

Both the 721 and 725 offer welcome boosts to inter-urban frequencies across the county as well as some new direct links. Hertfordshire does well for north/south links by rail but buses play a key role providing east/west links so it’s good to see these being improved.

It’s early days but it’s not clear to me where the branding for this expanding network is going.

I think the time has come for Arriva to ditch the once iconic Green Line brand it still (sort of) uses for route 724 but it’s so watered down now to be an embarrassment. Instead Arriva needs to work with the County to develop the fledgling Connect Herts brand to make it higher profile rather like TrawsCymru in Wales.

A more eye catching livery would help – I’m not struck by the one introduced on route 907 and there also needs to be a consistent policy on route numbering (700s or 900s?) and whether routes are limited stop, or not, to avoid confusion,

It would also be good if the County’s excellent online maps could be updated to include the new routes and maybe even some printed promotional leaflets, timetables and maps produced and widely distributed.

I hope the enhanced frequencies do successfully grow the number of passengers so when the funding runs out these new additional routes are financially sustainable.

Another county introducing new bus routes is Oxfordshire. Three new weekday routes will begin on Monday (27th) but a couple of MWF or TTh shopping journey type routes got going earlier this month which I’ve had a ride on but I’ll report on these shortly. For tomorrow’s extra bonus new bus route blog we’re back in London trying out TfL’s very first completely new Superloop route – the SL10 between Harrow and North Finchley – which begins today.

Roger French

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18 thoughts on “Hertfordshire welcomes another two new bus routes

  1. Congrats to Herts CC – this seems a very good use of BSIP money; a combination of introducing new links and strengthening frequencies on core routes. I’m sure the oldies amongst us who can remember Herts’ previous attempts to build a cross country Green Line network (I was one of the few who actually used the 733) will be watching with interest.

    Also really nice to see that Arriva have produced a very attractive set of maps for their revised network in Hertfordshire, all on their web site well before the new services started and downloadable as PDFs.

    I’m a bit surprised its the 721 which is MF and the 725 MS, I would have expected the other way around since a bunch of routes through Hatfield have reduced frequences on Saturdays when there are no students using them.

    Finally the PVR uplift isn’t quite as big as Roger suggests, there has been some thinning as well (the 321 went from every 20 mins to every 30 mins to make it all work in terms of even frequencies). I think some buses have come off the Hemel and Stevenage town services recently as well.

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  2. The route numbering in Herts has become a mess and really needs to be looked at. The 410 route Harlow to Cheshunt has for some reason been renumbered the 25. Neither of those numbers made any real sense

    The Hertford to Welwyn Garden City corridor which last time I travelled that way seems to be going to have far to many buses with the hourly 724 plus at present the hourly 524 which many or may not be withdrawn plus the 523 which is not yet running but will be every 30 minutes. Quite why those routes are in the 500 series who knows it is just another part of the route numbering mess. Which ones serve all stops and which are limited stop who knows ?

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    1. The 410 is a commercial service so the decision to call it the 25 is down to the operator. Incidentally, 410 was initially chosen as it once mirrored the established 310 route.

      Dan Tancock

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  3. The route numbering is a real mess. Going by Traveline the 721 is Limited stop but the 725 is not. What logic is there in that ?. Historically the 700 numbers were always used for limited stop Greenline services

    Now in Herts 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 and various letter prefixed and routes with a suffix letter it really needs sorting

    Maybe one serious of numbers for limited stop Inter Urban routes 700 series perhaps another set of numbers for all stops Inter urban routes may be 600 series and may be letter prefixed for local bus routes

    At the moment the route numbing is totally random and confusing

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    1. Don’t go by Traveline. Both the 721 and 725 are limited stop, hence their inclusion on bus stop flags in their respective areas (example picture in the blog)

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  4. Whilst the route numbers do seem a little messy, they are a mix-match of the former London Transport Country Bus/Green Line and post-deregulation “500s” which sprung up in both Essex and Hertfordshire. Logical minds find an irresistible urge to tidy-up the mess, but if past experience is anything to go by, leave well alone. The Public have been confused enough in past re-numberings, and will soon learn what buses suit them regardless of number.

    Terence Uden

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  5. Apparently 725 doesn’t stop at Hatfield the Galleria though, which puts punters off. So some subtle route detail like that could’ve been planned a bit better

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    1. The 725 stops on Comet Way adjacent to The Galleria and at The Comet Hotel, opposite The Galleria.
      Dan Tancock

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  6. I haven’t got time to do an exhaustive interworked Countywide timetable summary . . . but from some selective interworking summaries, I reckon Herts CC have done about the best they can do. Northbound from Rickmansworth isn’t brilliant, but there is a regular 322 at 3 BPH to Watford . . . and I note that 724 is up for a “reliability” timetable change in January; if that can include delaying the NB service by 10 minutes, that’d help . . . but of course that might cause problems elsewhere on the network (although with 8 BPH from St Albans to Hatfield there are bound to be conflicts somewhere!!). A tidying up exercise in re running times in the Summer would be worthwhile . . . 4-6 months to bed in should be enough.

    I do hope that Intalink sort the maps out soon . . . it’s understandable that changing some maps twice in 4 weeks isn’t really worthwhile; there is a cost, and with many maps to be revised said cost would be considerable (based on prices 12 years ago, it’d be north of £500 per map!!). Having said that . . . 10 weeks notice should have been enough time for the November changes.

    I note (and have seen) that all relevant stops were stickered up in good time . . . very commendable, but the stops in Watford Town Centre still have route numbers from the network before last on display (despite me notifying them every 6 months about this)!! I still believe that Intalink, as an Enhanced Partnership, is the model for others to follow, but sometimes the attention to detail isn’t quite there.

    As others have said, this seems to have been a worthwhile spending of BSIP+ monies, and if routes develop in the way that 907 has (and I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see the potential of THAT route), then more power to their planning elbow. I’ll be watching from the sidelines . . .

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  7. As always Herts are in the vanguard of what will need to be done with BSIP money throughout the country, instead of tinkering with evenings and Sundays they are enhancing daytime frequencies and as other have noted they have done a good job marrying these new routes up with existing services. As BSIP money is only guaranteed until March 2026 a complete network revamp is impossible . But all of these new services will dilute revenue on the existing (mainly Arriva but less so Uno) services, which may tip them into a loss making position. I assume the 721 and 725 are some sort of Deminimus arrangement which is quite understandable, but I don’t see how Arriva are to be compensated for revenue loss. After all on one journey alone Roger thought all 30 passengers had been abstracted from the close behind Arriva 724.

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  8. A bit of abstraction from the 724 would be no bad thing as the latter is often overcrowded with Hatfield Uni students, no doubt encouraged by the £2 flat fare. It’s a pity the 725 daren’t cross the Herts boundary (funding issues I assume?) as many of the students travel to/from points west of Rickmansworth and it can be standing room only on that stretch. A vehicle swap woud be useful too; the 724 as an airport service really needs luggage pens but doesn’t have them, with even the small rack it does have partly occupied by a badly-placed Metro dispenser.

    Andrew S

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  9. Just a couple of points to add to the (as always) excellent blog.
    Firstly, is the 721 a limited stop route ? Strictly speaking, yes, but not in the conventional sense. It serves all stops in urban areas, and misses all the stops between the towns (where a bus seldom has to stop), and so there is no reduction in journey time; both the 321 and 721 have the same running time between Luton and St Albans. It therefore seems pointless to run this as a ‘Limited Stop’ service, as there is no passenger benefit and no operational benefit.
    Secondly, these changes are not entirely ‘improvements’, because of the reduction in frequency of the 321. On Saturdays there used to be 3bph between Luton and St Albans on the 321. The 721 is only a M-F operation, so now there are only 2bph on this day. Secondly, the stops between St Albans and Watford which are not served by the 724 / 725 (about 15+ stops) have seen their service reduced – 6 days a week – from 3 to 2bph.

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  10. During the day, UNO bus 635 provides an almost as fast service as the 725, Watford Hospital to Lister Hospital, gaining some time by using the A1M to bypass Welwyn/Knebworth.
    NickK

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  11. It is suggested locally that the next on the list for Herts changes is the 500 (Aylesbury -Hemel Hempstead) which from 7th January 2024 will become the X5! (more inconsistent numbering). It will be fast from Aylesbury to Tring via the A41 Aston Clinton by-pass (the village will still be served by Red Eagle 61/62) and extended back to Watford as previously although route is uncertain. Still be run by Arriva but from the A.Southern Counties depot at Hemel (Two Waters) rather than the Shires depot in Aylesbury (which will then be left with just 2 routes – 280/X8 and 300/X30).

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    1. The comment from Anonymous @ 1057 is complete nonsense!! Here are the new timetables:
      https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/changes-to-your-bus-services-in-aylesbury-jan-24

      The X5 is simply the current 500 renumbered and with the school diversion in Tring withdrawn. No extension to Watford. Aylesbury Garage operation. The numbering is part of a desire by Arriva to revitalise the Aylesbury interurban routes (a last throw of the dice?). The timetables for the X8 are also nonsense . . . the “automatics” imply a journey time of 35 minutes FROM Oxford to Headington . . . poor proof reading again . . .
      The associated map shows how Arriva have dwindled in Aylesbury . . . the “Reds” have control of the town now . . .

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  12. Interesting point made on the viability of the Green Line brand.

    I agree it’s now pointless to keep it on the 724; Arriva are 50/50 (at best) w.r.t. using GL-branded buses on that route anyway. Not to mention Reading Buses now use their own Windsor Express brand on the 702 / 703.

    I’d let the 757 keep it, though. The brand lets it maintain a distinct identity (important given Arriva’s regular offering), and I’d hazard a guess that many punters going back 20-ish years would only think of Green Line as a coach brand primarily because of the 757.

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