Living the rural bus dream in East Sussex

Tuesday 25th July 2023

When it comes to DfT’s funding allocations to local authorities for Bus Service Improvement Plans (BSIPs) the difference between the Winners and the Losers is certainly starting to show around the country.

The Guardian – Wednesday 19th July 2023

As those that lost out in the postcode funding lottery struggle to keep rural bus services going (see the above press cutting from last Wednesday’s Guardian), the lucky winners are now enjoying a whale of a time cutting fares, introducing attractive ticket deals for young people, enhancing evening and Sunday timetables on marginal routes and, if that wasn’t enough, East Sussex, for example, introduced spectacular improvements to its rural and inter-urban bus network in the west of the County on Sunday with hourly and even half hourly frequencies on extended routes replacing low frequency stubs of rural bus routes previously characterised by single figure loadings at best.

When I worked at the Southdown bus company in 1983 running sparsely used rural bus routes throughout Sussex, if someone had told me in forty years time there’d be a Conservative Government funding half hourly double deck operated frequencies on such routes with seniors travelling free and other adult passengers paying a maximum fare of £2 (equivalent to 46p in 1983), I’d have recommended they stop day dreaming fantasies and get back into the real world. Yet here we are in July 2023 living that very dream.

Using its £41 million handout, the County Council’s main headline grabbing improvements are extensions to Brighton & Hove’s long standing routes 28 and 29 between Brighton, Lewes and either Ringmer (28) or Uckfield and Tunbridge Wells (29).

The 28 now continues beyond Ringmer every half an hour through the hamlet of Laughton (population 600) on the B2124 to join the A22 at Golden Cross where it meets Stagecoach’s hourly route 54 (from Uckfield down the A22) over to Hailsham, Polegate and down to Eastbourne (across the centre of the map below).

The 29 regains a half hourly frequency (ex hourly – reduced for Covid) through to Tunbridge Wells together with an hourly extension of a third journey each hour to Uckfield and then via the villages of Framfield, Blackboys and Cross in Hand to Heathfield (across the top of the map below).

Until last weekend there was just a five-six journey a day, Monday to Friday only, route 143 operated by Compass Bus originating in Lewes then via Ringmer and that hamlet at Laughton to Hailsham …

… and between Uckfield and Heathfield the six journey a day route 231 also operated by Compass Bus was the only link and which continued further east to Etchingham.

The hamlet of Laughton has gone from five/six journeys a day to a half hourly service from early to late on weekdays, a new half hourly service on Saturdays, when there was nothing before as well as an hourly service on Sundays. What a transformation. Communities in Hailsham and Lewes are similarly now frequently connected as well as through to Brighton.

But route 143 used to divert off the B2124 up and down for almost a mile to serve Deanland Wood, a mobile home park where older aged people live, but as the road down to it isn’t suitable for double deck buses, the newly extended and enhanced route 28 won’t serve it.

Ironically it’s the most populace place on the section of route being drastically increased. When I travelled on the 143 a few months ago unsuprisingly it was the only location that saw a decent number of passengers board and travel to Hailsham.

Now they’re left with either having to use the County Council’s new Flexibus DRT (good luck with that) or new route 48 offering a three journey timetable on Tuesdays and Thursdays laid on by community bus operator Cuckmere Buses which begins today.

Passengers using route 231 east of Heathfield have a new shuttle service between Heathfield and Etchingham offering an improved frequency and the inclusion of flexible routing to serve Batemans National Trust and a small residential area north of Burwash, so that’s good to see.

Over in Crowborough the restoration of the half hourly frequency on route 29 to and from Tunbridge Wells has led to the withdrawal of local route 228/229 operated by Compass Bus between the towns being replaced with a truncated shuttle bus 228 restricted to running around Crowborough then connecting with the 29 but with a 14/15 minute connectional time.

I’m not sure that will go down very well with passengers in that part of Crowborough served by the 228.

Other improvements impacting Compass Bus operated routes include route 121 between Lewes, Chailey and Newick increasing from two-hourly in the off-peak to hourly with a new two-hourly Sunday timetable; a new four-journey timetable on Sundays on route 123 between Lewes, Rodmell, Kingston and Newhaven and improved frequencies on Lewes town services.

Incidentally, over in neighbouring West Sussex it’s good to see route 99 between Chichester and Petworth retain its one bus timetable – there were proposals to replace it entirely with a Flexibus DRT style service – but the new timetable now has its previous flexible route options transferred to a second bus operating completely flexibly and booked via the telephone (as it used to be) or via an app. It looks like a good compromise (rather than ruining the fixed aspects of the 99) but I can’t see the 99 Flex ever doing much.

I took a couple of rides on the newly extended routes in East Sussex yesterday to get a measure of the potential out on the road.

Obviously numbers travelling on the first weekday morning were not expected to be very substantial but I was impressed by how many were taking advantage of the newly extended route 28 between Lewes/Ringmer and Hailsham/Eastbourne. Journeys I travelled on as well as others observed had around half a dozen passengers enjoying the substantially improved frequency over the erstwhile 143.

Whether there’ll be enough to justify a half hourly frequency long term, rather than perhaps an hourly service, is very doubtful but the early signs are very encouraging and I can understand the County Council thinking ‘why not give it a go, we’ll never get another opportunity like this’ especially as the DfT is paying.

The section of route between Hailsham and Eastbourne is largely duplicated by Stagecoach routes – albeit with some minor variation – so I’m not sure whether long term that makes sense, especially as some journeys literally do duplicate each other, but again ‘why not?’.

Both Stagecoach and Brighton & Hove leave Hailsham for Eastbourne at almost the same time.

The 29A journey I caught from Lewes via Uckfield to Heathfield replacing the 231 between the latter two points was more poorly patronised with just one other passenger but it was fairly early, at 08:18 from Lewes. Again, an hourly frequency is more than double the worth to passengers than the previous two-hourly offering so let’s hope passengers respond and travel double the number of times they previously did and more potential passengers find out about the improvements and start using it.

It was good to see Brighton & Hove had updated the imagery on its Regency branded buses to include the new route extensions and although it takes a Herculean effort to get timetable cases updated for days one and two, I noticed there were some still to be done as I travelled round.

But it was also good that audio next stop announcements had been updated for the extensions and I assume the visual displays will follow soon.

East Sussex’s £41 million BSIP bus bonanza lasts until March 2025 so I’d urge residents and passengers to make the most of this ‘best ever’ bus network while it lasts. And I do hope Council officers have allocated some of their largesse to produce a county bus map as they once regularly did in ‘the good old days’. People would find out more about these superb bus service offerings more easily then. Some nice attractive printed timetable brochures widely distributed would go down well too.

Living the rural bus dream in East Sussex.

While it lasts.

Roger French

Blogging timetable: 06:00 TThS plus Su DRT extras.

39 thoughts on “Living the rural bus dream in East Sussex

    1. That’s the rub. It is fine to give these things a go, but once people change their travel habits and start to rely on subsidised services there will be more pain when they are withdrawn. That’s not a reason not to make improvements, but even the planners will know there are some “also rans” amongst the improvements being funded.

      The way of Government funding means that there are winners and losers in these beauty contests. Generally the better resourced councils can put together a more compelling bid. But is it right to splash the cash on new iniatives (a three letter acronym springs to mind) while all around there are cuts to long established services that are comparatively well used.

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  1. We in Hampshire envy you in East Sussex. We have had yet another consultation about further cuts to save another huge amount of money as the Government grant to Hampshire is still being cut after 12 years. Yet we already only have a two-hourly route, ceasing at 1715

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  2. Meanwhile in Leeds (still Europe’s largest city without a mass transit system), First Bus has just gone though yet another series of cuts, with many routes either scrapped or ending at 7pm, leaving parts of the city unserved. Oh for the sort of bus operator they have in Brighton, Nottingham or Edinburgh.

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  3. Probably 10 years ago, I rode on Route 99 from Chichester to Petworth . . . driven by an former LCBS Reigate driver with whom I worked on Route 727 in the early 1980s . . . small world!!
    He was one of the two regular drivers on Route 99, and told me that deviations from the main route were usually only once or twice a week and often for the same passengers each time.
    This is a route that has been run like this for probably 20+ years . . . so why change it now, and why double up on the costs?

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  4. I have a friend in Crowborough so travel there quite often. As she lives in Jarvis Brook she has become worse off with these changes. As Roger says the improved frequency on the 29 has been at the expense of the Compass routes so Jarvis Brook now hardly has any service to Tunbridge Wells. Add to that the unreliability of the train service on the Uckfield branch which for some reason seems to escape any scrutiny by the media. A two-hour gap in the late evening (the 2207 from London Bridge has never been reinstated) makes it challenging to go out to town for an evening out. Add to that frequent late evening engineering works and of course no chance of getting back from Tunbridge Wells by bus as an alternative. Ironically the line’s most reliable week was during the recent work to rule. I think you need to take a trip on the line Roger and see for yourself the sardine conditions with frequent short formations in the evenings.

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  5. I’ve been hearing that the only reason the 28 extends to Eastbourne is because the ESCC HQ is moving from there to Hailsham and wanted to provide a more “reliable” service.

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    1. very true and typical conservative run county council – think of themselves and not the bus user

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  6. What a fabulous tour of my childhood riding Southdown services before deregulation and the breakup of the network with the arrival of Stagecoach. Hopefully I’ll be able to get down and enjoy this revival later this year?

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  7. I recently took the number 29 from Tonbridge Wells to Brighton and it was absolutely jam packed, to the point that all the seats were taken and the entire aisle was filled with people standing the entire journey. This was mostly because the top deck had been closed off for some reason, but even if it hadn’t I reckon it would have been full still, due to the number of people on board, and because at one point we stopped at a bus stop with loads of people wanting to get on and the bus driver could only let a few on because of how full it was. It makes sense how packed it was, given it was a warm Saturday (so lots of people travelling to Brighton for a day trip) and it was about midday, so it was probably not as representative as to the service more generally, but if the service is half as popular as it was on that day most of the time then the service is getting its money’s worth

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  8. Did Compass Bus’s Peak Vehicle Requirement reduce as a result of these changes? If so, is that fair?

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  9. I didn’t believe it when someone told me three weeks ago this was happening, but it has.

    I used the extended 28 on the first day, Sunday. It wasn’t a terrific start as the first one out of Hailsham was 20 minutes late. It was a modest start too: no brass band, no complementary champagne or caviar and no speech from the Mayor. Just a few of us boarded, there’s no printed timetables (yet), bus stops have new B&H timetable cases but they are empty.

    In Brighton the B&H shop advised me that timetable booklets are due in a week as they’re still at the printers so I guess when these circulate more people will be aware. The new services have started at the start of the school holidays so probably it’s the best time of year to do it.

    As well as the 28 being half-hourly during the day, they run from 05:50 and the last one back from Brighton leaves there at 23:15, limping into Hailsham at 00:28!

    These ‘Regency’ services do make some useful connections, passing Sussex University, Brighton University, Lewes Tesco and Aldi, and the shops, pubs and restaurants of Lewes town. But will they tempt many out of their cars or away from the train as Hailsham residents can get to Polegate by car or bus and catch the train to all these points? Brighton and Hove Albion’s football stadium at Falmer is served too. Perhaps B&H will also print a leaflet promoting the delights of Hailsham and Heathfield to Brighton residents?

    Around 2008-9 the 143 was operated by Renown, they did use double deckers down to Deanland Wood Park!

    Between Hailsham and Eastbourne the new 28 takes a more direct route than Stagecoach’s services. Do Stagecoach mind that B&H are being subsidised to compete against them?

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  10. For those who’d like to read Gwyn Topham’s Graun piece – Rural bus services hit new low after losing out on post-Covid funding – in full, here’s the link: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/19/rural-bus-services-hit-new-low-after-losing-out-on-post-covid-funding

    Paul Halford’s RouteOne piece – Rural bus cutbacks blamed on lack of BSIP funding – which has a link to The State of County Buses report, compiled by SYSTRA can be found here: https://www.route-one.net/news/rural-bus-cutbacks-blamed-on-lack-of-bsip-funding/

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  11. The cuts have been going on for decades so don’t expect any change. We are getting into the annual Autumn round of cuts. Add in the poor reliability and high level of cancellation why would anyone want to use bus services. Even the Concessionary pass users are giving up on them

    Most services are so bad they are of little use to anyone

    I stuck with buses for a long time but they got so bad they become unusable so it was a car or nothing

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  12. This whole “winners and losers” situation just seems so arbitrary and perverse in how the money has been handed out. As we see, East Sussex gets a surfeit in that it can barely believe it has so much to spend, whilst neighbouring Hampshire gets nothing. The same goes for Somerset that gets a modest amount yet Dorset (whose bus services are now almost negligible) got nothing and yet the documents submitted were a cut and paste job from the same consultancy!

    Some of this is almost reminiscent of the early 2000s Rural Bus Challenge cash where such were the funds made available for new services, councils could scarcely spend the windfall. Somerset was running services on Sundays that hadn’t seen a bus for donkey’s years – Yeovil to Chard, or Yeovil to Wincanton – and Roger’s experience in Sussex seems to echo that period. Spending money because it’s there and what of two or three years time.

    I’d be happier to see funding spread more equitably, and for some to be ringfenced for capital investment into bus priority. Make the bus competitive against the congestion, and tie those in with commitments from the operators. Surely that is more sustainable?

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    1. Most BSIPs do have “some to be ringfenced for capital investment into bus priority” (including East Sussex) and the DfT is holding the winners to this. Unfortunately rampant inflation means costs are rising rapidly, and the amount of priority that will get completed will be a fraction of what the original plans intended.

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  13. Here in Lincolnshire there’s little or no funding available, so when Brylaine retrenched to Monday to Friday only workings at the height of the driver shortage, bang went Saturday buses for much of the county. Only one route (B5, formerly IC5) has seen Saturday journeys replaced, and that’s been split in two with no connections despite being an “InterConnect” route which are supposed to be the premium routes in the county.
    But, hey, the CallConnect DRT is ‘available’ as long as you don’t mind paying up to three times the service bus fare, suffering all the vagaries of DfT Roger has previously blogged about and being home by teatime at the latest.

    People in the south and south-east who whine about their poor public transport really have no idea. You’re only just starting to get the cuts that the rest of us have had to put up with for many years.

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    1. The BSIP funding mainly went to areas that already had relatively good service and those areas that had poor services generally got nothing.

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    2. Sorry, but no the south & south-east aren’t just starting to see the cuts they have been going on for years. Surrey started their big supported network review the year before the financial crash (when austerity forced most others to start thinking about looking at it, they had finished before most started and then had to go back & do it again as austerity had changed the calculation) & Hampshire & Sussex have been cutting for a long time. The south-east has been stuck in a Catch-22 situation for years, they don’t get extra money from central government because they have affluent populations but then central government caps their council tax increases so they can’t access that money from those residents meaning they don’t have the money to spend.

      Lincolnshire, unlike a number of local authorities actually are still trying to fund replacements when services were dropped. The issue when Brylaine dropped their Saturdays was likely more no one else was in a position to take the work on than a lack of desire to fund replacements by LCC (I work for a company with a depot in the area & I remember seeing tenders for more than just the split IC5 replacement though I don’t think it was immediate as Brylaine initially said it was temporary). Lincs is one of those areas where driver shortages really hit, we couldn’t bid for this work in the end as we couldn’t cover our own work let alone take on more. Lincs are one of the more proactive & sensible councils when it comes to bus services, try living in Leicestershire where the council have not only said their is no more money to support replacement of withdrawn services (so any service withdrawn right now won’t see a funded replacement regardless of how busy the service is in comparison to existing tendered services) but they will do nothing to help commercial replacement such as obtaining data to allow decisions to be made as they have no money to fund it so won’t do anything else..

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    3. More than just the B5 has a Saturday replacement. Black Cat Travel operate two hourly Boston Town Services on a Saturday
      https://bustimes.org/services/it1-boston-fenside
      https://bustimes.org/services/it5-boston-woad-farm
      Five journeys to Spalding
      https://bustimes.org/services/b13-boston-spalding-2
      Two journeys each to Spilsby and Quadring
      https://bustimes.org/services/b11-boston-spilsby-2
      https://bustimes.org/services/k59-boston-donington

      Rather basic for sure, but not just the B5 which has been replaced

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  14. It’s great that this is happening. I hope Brighton & Hove have found drivers for all the extra buses: they are known for treating their staff well. I look forward to B&H making a success of it and actually using the new money for ‘pump-priming’, so as to keep these services running after the BSIP money runs out; if they can’t do it, I don’t know who can! There are a couple of points which may work in their favour:
    1) the Spirit of the Times – especially in Brighton, but elsewhere as well, there is a growing number of young people who really want to give public transport a go, and hopefully more of us oldies will do so too, if we get half-hourly services and buses in the evenings and on Sundays!
    2) B&H could work with Southern Trains to make the whole local transport network better for passengers – they are both in the Go-Ahead group. I see no sign of this yet – in fact the Heathfield section of 29A has really poor connections at Uckfield station, but presumably that could be altered. Another improvable bus-rail connection is at Lewes: currently none of the Regency routes call at the station.

    Re the 29, B&H achieved a real success when they first introduced half-hourly buses, and I think it could be built up further. Good though the service is, it is slower than driving. But the once daily 29X emulates the 1960s train journey by getting from Tun.Wells to Lewes in an hour; why not have a ‘Regency Express’ every hour? – or every half hour? I believe it would grow the overall custom, with the 29X giving the possibility of a morning or afternoon out in Lewes, Brighton or TW, unlike the regular 29. Add in a better connection at Lewes station, and Go-Ahead might have a Swiss level success on its hands!

    Better bus-rail connections at Lewes would also benefit the 28: at the moment there is a 15 minute connection (with a ten-minute walk) for passengers from Ringmer/Laughton/Hailsham to catch the London trains, but coming back it is impossibly tight. Still, the new services will be brilliant for people going to ‘on-the-route’ places (Lewes, Uni, football etc.); integrating with other routes should help to get the ‘extra 10%’ custom.

    Recently I’ve enjoyed watching the ‘A Yank in Sussex’ youtube channel – lots of interesting history and comment from a gentle transatlantic viewpoint. He hasn’t covered buses yet – I might suggest that in a comment!

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  15. Yes I worked on services 228/229 in Seaford and District / Compass days – thanks to the bully boys at Brighton and Hove have pushed out the little operator, with so much funding by East Sussex County Council and in reality its been service cuts in some parts of East Sussex, especially in Crowborough / Jarvis Brook and on service 261 at Ashdown Forest Centre and Colmans Hatch where this area has no service at all

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  16. Veritable feast of bus services operating until the end of March 2026 (not 2025) as it currently stands. Let’s hope further funding follows.

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  17. Cuts in Hampshire have been going on for years. The south has never been exempt from cuts. Why can our Tory MPs not complain to the Chancellor and get the cuts stopped after 12 or 13 years? [ not just buses of course]. Then I go Devon and find piles of the 6 new 2023 area book timetables of Devon buses on a table at Axminster station. What a contrast to most counties! and good buses at Seaton, etc.

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    1. Perhaps stop voting for “your Tory MPs” then? The Tory obsession with “market forces” and competition, the absurd “winners & losers” situation as BW2 accurately describes it might then stop in favour of a rational and equitable approach to public transport provision.

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  18. All very positive, and certainly the return of a half-hourly service to Tunbridge Wells will last. However, as with some other comments, not too sure about the extra provision between Hailsham and Eastbourne and the effect on the more rural Stagecoach services along that section. Can’t see the relocated Council staff worrying too much as few will be using the bus unless forced.

    And in answer to the comment that “the fabulous Southdown network only broke up on deregulation”, I think you will find the network was decimated in 1971 when the not so fabulous National Bus Company took over. The current cross County links and good network on many services which returned in stages post-1990 have been commercial decisions (thanks to deregulation) by Brighton and Hove and Stagecoach.

    The 231, another route which had all but disappeared leaving Burwash virtually unserved at one time, would have been better served by extending through to Hawkhurst (and beyond if really daring!) rather than a sixty minute headway finishing in the middle of nowhere at Etchingham. That certainly will not last. And oddly, the hourly service between Hastings and Hawkhurst (through to Tunbridge Wells) has been quietly halved

    Hopefully, unlike TfL contracts which are written in stone for seven years, some tweaking to improve things still further may be made.

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    1. The Tunbridge Wells-Hawkhurst-Hastings service, now 1066, has not been reduced in frequency – still hourly throughout, and a new Sunday service introduced too.

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  19. Coach and bus traffic in Great Britain fell by 12.3% in 2022 compared to 2019, newly published figures from the Department for Transport (DfT) show in confirming research from elsewhere.

    The data, which estimates traffic by vehicle type, reveal cars to have a 75% share, with coaches and buses at 1%.

    Without additional supports and far better marketing bus service will continue to decline. In many areas there is no much left at all of bus services and they are barely surviving and without more assistance many of those service are likely to disappear in the next 12 month

    Most of the 1% market share buses have is in London and a few other large cities the rest of the country buses have about a 0.2% share of the transport market. In most o those areas taxis and private hire have a bigger market share

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  20. So East Sussex has got a huge windfall from the DfT’s funding allocations to local authorities for Bus Service Improvement Plans (BSIPs), and they have, to some extent, improved/added certain services accordingly.
    But, looking at particular routes in greater detail (i.e. those that are closer to home, for me) there are, and have been for some years, questionable operations/working diagrams that need to be looked into and modified/improved.
    Firstly though, I must say that the new 29A service, from Brighton through to Heathfield, is a great idea, opening up opportunities for an otherwise relatively starved transport-served district, with its overall operational timetable functioning 7-days a week, from pre-sunrise to past-sunset, in most cases.
    However, compare that to the new route 1066 (ex-254/304/305), and the amendments here might draw criticism in some respects, most notably for the fact that 50% of the direct, through services from Tunbridge Wells to Hastings (and v/v) have now been withdrawn, instead running only to/from Hawkhurst. To compensate for that, in some small way, those shorter journeys will connect-up with the 349 service from Hawkhurst to Hastings via Sandhurst/Bodiam – in many instances…..
    …..but look at the new Sunday timetable for these services – what a shambles that is…..
    It is probably five years ago that a brief (just a couple of years, maybe?) and very limited 254 service between Tunbridge Wells and Hastings was withdrawn, for the reason that it was underused and too costly to continue with.
    Now, we have a reinstatement of the Sunday service which, as ever, is operated by Stagecoach, from Hastings, and which has been the case since they took over the route many years ago from ?Countryliner?, and who are quite content to run “dead miles” to/from Hawkhurst, in order for the “254” to be worked!
    The new Sunday timetable, operating under the “1066” route number (a reasonable choice, given the place(s) it serves, though lacking any individual/dedicated buses with specific branding), runs every two hours, which is OK – but only between Hawkhurst and Tunbridge Wells – again!
    But…… wait (and WAIT is the key word here) …… the 349 continues to run on a Sunday, as it has done for many years, between Hawkhurst and Hastings, so that is great….. until….. we find that the connections between the two services are as much as 75 minutes between them! Where is the logic and functionality in that? You might just as well introduce a Boris-Bike type operation in TW and Hastings, for all the potential interest those timetables are going to generate. After all, what is there to do in Hawkhurst for an hour on the best of days, never mind one on wet/wintery Sundays where shelter from the elements is minimal, to say the least!
    In a few instances such as this, where service operations have gone pear-shaped and have been withdrawn because the operator struggled to make it work for them in financial terms, Hams Travel of Flimwell have stepped in and, somehow, managed to maintain the original (perhaps better) service – and with newer, brighter buses, complete with more personable drivers, making it a win-win situation for all concerned.
    So, on that basis, and given the ideal geographical location of this operator, if only on Sundays, can they not be approached/encouraged to take on the “1066 & 349” services, and make it a direct one with just a change of numbers at Hawkhurst, through to Hastings & v/v?
    Now, reverting back to the limited through services between TW and Hastings, I have not come across any updates that suggest passengers travelling the entire distance of the “1066” route who require a change of buses at Hawkhurst, will be allowed to purchase just one ticket, rather than one for each service – why is this not possible?
    “Transfer Tickets,” to coin just one name in these instances, have been available to passengers in certain areas, and other countries, for decades, as well as alternative ticketing arrangements also being available to specific dual-bus journeys. In fact, in just the past few days, Chalkwell & Stagecoach have come to an agreement whereby passengers on the Sheerness-Sittingbourne-Maidstone corridor/routes, can buy one ticket to cover them for the two services – so why not adopt this in East Sussex?
    Looking specifically at the Sunday timings….. who, apart from (possibly) the most avid bus enthusiast would want to leave TW on the first service at 09:45 and, after a 78 minute wait at Hawkhurst, continue their journey to Hastings, arriving there (not even at the seafront/shopping area) at 12:42?
    Having accomplished that arduous journey, the by now weary traveller finds themselves with just three hours in the town, before having to return to TW on the last connecting services of the day, leaving Hastings at 15:45, to arrive back in TW at 18:42 – with only a 65 minute connection time at Hawkhurst!
    Even Rail Replacement bus services cover the journey between the two main towns, in less than half of this overall time!
    It is just so unbelievable that a potentially beneficial opportunity can be turned into a completely pointless operation that serves absolutely no practical purpose whatsoever! And in however many months time from now, it is quite likely that we will learn that not only has the “1066” Sunday service been withdrawn due to lack of patronage, but also the “349” has ceased to be on a Sunday, because no significant increase in passenger numbers has been recorded!
    Where is the Initiative (or even Common Sense) in this business, today? Co-ordination is, surely, key in this business, is it not? Who conceived these Sunday 1066/349 working diagrams, and honestly considered them to be beneficial to both the operator, and the passenger? It is, putting it bluntly, akin to the work of numpties!
    Finally….. why were/are the final two evening diagrams out of Tunbridge Wells never run as through passenger services to Hastings rather than curtail the final services at Hurst Green/Hawkhurst? – only to then run empty from there back to Hastings, albeit as far as Silverhill (Depot)! Surely a wasted opportunity where passenger convenience is concerned? – never mind the unrecoverable, direct costs to the operator.
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    Aside from that nonsense, I will focus on the now truncated (for obvious reasons, with the introduction of the 29A), 231 Heathfield to Etchingham service.
    I know little about the history of this route, but have noted that for many years it has covered the route between Etchingham and Uckfield, with, on occasions, a reasonable patronage.
    But why Etchingham (other than the fact that there is a station there) as a start/finishing point? Or even, on School Days, Hurst Green?
    As a former bus/coach driver myself, I am aware of the limitations regarding the turning around of vehicles at potential finishing points, which makes Hurst Green a bit of an issue, but I have an inkling that this route (albeit with a different number?) once went through to Hawkhurst, when there was once a Bus Station……?
    But, regardless of that, why not timetable the 231 service through to Hawkhurst, in a clockwise pattern from Hurst Green via Flimwell, then out to Hawkhurst and The Moor, and back to Hurst Green for the return journey? There is an adequate waiting facility at the Eight Bells, on the Moor, and connections would then be available at Hawkhurst for passengers travelling to places like Cranbrook, Staplehurst, Maidstone, Bodiam, and (at Hurst Green) Hastings! (Assuming, of course, that Transfer/Inclusive Journey tickets can be made available, to make it all worthwhile!).
    As it exists at the moment, the functionality of the 231 has extremely limited benefits as a public service and, as such, will surely be withdrawn completely at the next Transport Committee Review because, as it is, it simply won’t draw sufficient patronage to make it sustainable.
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    I won’t go into the aspects of Flexibus, as I don’t know enough about it….. suffice to say that, convenient as it may sound, for what mostly seem to be single-passenger journeys, the whole operation looks to be a “money down the drain” scheme from the outset, which is a shame, but one which has seen many similar ideas introduced in different parts of the country, mostly to fall by the wayside. Based upon what I have witnessed recently, perhaps the drivers of these services might like to contribute to a new book entitled “The Lay-bys of East Sussex.” That, sadly for them, might generate more income for the operator than the services themselves?

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    1. The 1066 timetable is hourly throughout the day with the exception of 2 southbound and 2 northbound terminating Hawkhurst/Hurst Green The Sunday service is 2 hourly throughout with a 2 minute wait in Hawkhurst
      The 349 has run as an additional service between Hastings and Hawkhurst via Bodiam for some years now it arrives and departs Hawkhurst to coincide with the 1066 departures in the week
      The 2 hourly sunday service provides journeys on the opposite hour to the 1066 between Hastings and Hawkhurst via Bodiam
      Although the ser 349 used to be the connecting/through route historically between Hastings and Tunbridge Wells this was altered when Arriva decided not to run the Maidstone to Hastings service south of Hawkhurst and Stagecoach linked its replacement the 304/305 with the 254 providing an hourly through route these services now renumbered 1066

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      1. Yes, indeed, the statement I made previously about the new “1066” service was based on the information from another website at a time when the Stagecoach website was not functioning correctly and that in turn, also caused the Traveline website to give information that excluded the relevant Stagecoach services.
        So, thankfully, as of now, all is not as bad as it first appeared yet my source was, until at least a couple of days ago, was still showing the timings to that which I wrote about!
        It was information that, whilst quite beleiveable in these difficult times, made no real sense as the 254/1066 route is generally well patronised throughout most of its entire length.
        As of today, Sunday, 30th July, the following websites for the “1066” service show these details:

        – Traveline: Seems to have no info relating to the service on a Sunday.
        Any Tunbridge Wells to Hastings journey on a Sunday is currently suggested as travelling via Lewes and Hailsham, taking 3 hours and 40 minutes!
        Additionally, it throws out similar routes/timings for weekday journeys – completely excluding the 1066 service!
        I had written to them earlier this week about it, but obviously nothing has been done……

        – BusTimes: Are still showing the information for Weekday services that I first wrote about – with just THREE off-peak (every two hours) direct services – and yet, they have the Sunday service in place!
        I wrote to them a couple of days ago……. and still, we wait……

        So, let’s all rejoice for the fact that, in reality, everything is generally good with the 1066 (254) service – but there is no hiding the matter of the ridiculous connections on a Sunday with the 349, at Hawkhurst, particularly when both services are run by the same operator – and the latter serves TWO popular leisure destinations – the The Castle (NT), and the K&ESR at Bodiam!
        Combined Travel/Admission tickets, with particular emphasis on Family deals, come to mind.
        Whoever ratified those timings needs a loud wake-up call, but they probably wouldn’t understand what for?

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        1. Both routes 349 and 1066 are specified by East Sussex County Council. It is taking the revenue risk on at least some of the expanded services – I’m not sure if these routes are in that category or not.
          As for Combined Travel/Admission tickets, while the principle sounds good, in reality there are all sorts of complications over VAT, which is why it is more common to give a discount at an attraction to someone presenting a bus ticket. The VAT issue is also why many Park & Ride sites separate parking charges and bus fares.

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  21. Another DRT type service is being axed. This one is called Flexibus and is operated by WNCT. It finishes on the 3rd September

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  22. Just to advise those who have commented on the Tunbridge Wells-Hawkhurst-Hastings 1066 route, it has retained its hourly frequency (with a new Sunday service added). However, some problems with the Stagecoach website meant that the route was not displaying properly until today (Tuesday).

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  23. First Somerset have announced the closure of their Bridgewater garage from the 3ed September
    No details as to the impact on services other than timetables will change and some services will be withdrawn

    So far other than the few lucky areas that got BSIP Funding the Bus Service Improvement Strategy has turned into a Bus Service Withdrawal strategy

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  24. Nice photos Roger – I’ll miss the red and cream buses in and around Brighton & Hove. The new livery looks quite insipid. But at least there is now a nice return double deck excursion form Brighton to Eastobourne via Regency Route and Coaster!

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  25. It would be good to have a proper bus strategy (they did publish one but what’s become of it?) rather than just spraying money around. What are they going for, saving target constituencies? Modal shift, which could do miracles for saving carbon emissions, won’t happen until people can be sure “experimental” services won’t disappear overnight at the end of a two year cash splash. Secondly I’m surprised Alfriston doesn’t get an evening service. It’s a lively, pretty village with some good pubs nearby. Worth a crack surely.

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  26. One thing you didn’t mention was the new Compass travel 225 Saturday Heathfield to Rashlake Green. 4 journeys each way.
    The first journey is Heathfield to Rushlake Green 8:35.
    It’s one of those timetables that makes you think why is this area getting this is it really needed.

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