Saturday 24th June 2023

There are currently 1,183 parkrun events taking place on Saturday mornings across the country. This got me wondering how many bus routes ‘run’ inside parks?
I know of two.
I’ve previously featured Richmond Park’s route RP1 but today’s blog is about another delightful park bus route – one which has been serving Brighton’s historic Stanmer Park for the last 24 years (aside from the Covid interruption).

Brighton & Hove’s route 78 has been funded during that time through a partnership between the city council, the National Trust and, once it was formed, the South Downs National Park Authority.

When first introduced in 1999 the route ran on summer Sundays but over the years it’s been enhanced to weekends all the year round as well as daily operation during summer school holidays. In 2015 off peak Monday to Friday journeys were added to the timetable on schooldays from May while this year, thanks to funding from the Council’s Bus Service Improvement Plan, a peak hour weekday service has been introduced. This began on 24th April much to the delight of residents in isolated Stanmer Village, located deep inside the 485 hectare park – almost two square miles, nestling between Sussex University and the A27 as it curves around the residential area of Coldean.

Route 78 is one of three bus routes that use the long established Breeze up to the Downs branding…

… the others being route 77 to Devils Dyke (also runs daily, but started on 11th June) and route 79 to Ditchling Beacon (weekends from 23rd April).

Three Brighton & Hove Wrightbus StreetDecks used on Breeze branded routes 78 and 79 are fitted with bike straps enabling two cycles to be carried on the offside lower deck opposite the space for a wheelchair on these routes and two of these buses carry a special livery to promote the routes.
There’s a colourful leaflet to entice leisure travellers to take a ride not only on the three Breeze up to the Downs branded routes…

… but many other routes running further into the National Park in East and West Sussex.

It was good to see these were available on board buses as well as timetable leaflets, and as with all Brighton & Hove’s buses a network map is on display.

Routes 78 and 79 each take one bus and as the journey time is too tight to round in an hour the frequency is every 70 minutes. Two buses operate the 77 on a 45 minute frequency.

As you can see the first journey on route 78 leaves the Old Steine at 07:40 returning from Stanmer Village at 08:15. I caught the second journey of the morning from the city’s Old Steine at 08:50 on Friday of last week.

I was impressed to see it carried five passengers right into Stanmer Park as well as a few others making local journeys along Lewes Road which are covered by many other frequent routes. The next journey arriving into the Park 70 minutes later arrived with six alighting.

Lewes Road is one of the city’s busiest bus corridors and has seen a massive transformation over the last decade with bus priority measures and facilities for cyclists …

… as well as many new building developments for Brighton University …


… but it’s the scenic route into Stanmer Park itself which is the highlight of the journey.

The roof and upper deck sides take a bit of a hammering from tree branches as the bus makes its way …

… along the narrow Park road with views of the village church …

… and Stanmer House…

… to Stanmer Village located three quarters of a mile from the entrance gates.
Stanmer House has had a troubled history but now seems to have found a niche role as a conference and meeting venue …

… together with a café/restaurant and bar open to the public.

In fact you’re spoilt for choice for refreshments in the Park following the completion of a six year £7 million restoration project funded by the National Lottery Heritage Fund, its community fund and support from the city council, Plumpton College (which now has a base in the Park) and the National Park.
This has seen much of the 18th Century landscape and buildings restored including Stanmer House, a Walled Garden (now called One Garden)…

..Nursery and the Home Farm complex.

The Walled Garden is a lovely spot to visit and contains an amazing array of plants tended by staff and maintained as part of Plumpton College’s involvement.
There’s also a garden centre, another café and a restaurant.

Over in the village there’s a tea room …

…. and a church …

… which has been closed for some time, and is currently up for sale by the Church Commissioners.

There’s a clearly marked bus stop at this spot where the bus takes its nine minutes layover between journeys.

There are special two for one ticket deals for passengers with a rail ticket or a third off for passengers travelling alone and there are great opportunities to combine a bus ride with a walk across from Stanmer Park to Ditchling Beacon to return to Brighton on route 79.
If you’re in Brighton, route 78 is well worth a ride especially while BSIP funding provides a daily service and you won’t be disappointed with Stanmer Park.

Dare I say it, I prefer it to Richmond Park.

And are there any more ‘bus parkruns’?
Roger French
Blogging timetable; 06:00 TThS

Nothing like the same scale, but it it is a run wholly within a park.
There is a free shuttle service within Pollok Park, Glasgow. Runs all daytime, 7 days a week, every 30 mins, with an hour gap for lunch, from inside the entrance gates near Pollockshaws West station and across the road from the First Bus 57 /57A from the city centre.
There’s a dedicated bus shelter to wait in and the route first goes to Pollok House (National Trust for Scotland), then to the Burrell Collection and then back to the entrance.
The walk to the Burrell is attractive on a nice day but if you find walking difficult or the weather is not good (it’s not unusual for it to rain in Glasgow) then it’s very helpful. It’s a longer walk to Pollok House.
Car users pay a car parking fee and are further away than the bus stops to the house and museum.
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Have a look at White bus route 01 serving Windsor Great Park. Regards, David
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Of course; how could I forget that wonderful route? Thanks for the reminder David. Must take another ride on it some time soon.
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Roger,
You’ve dared say it, so, as a Volunteer Ranger in Richmond Park, I’m going to have to accept your challenge and investigate “your” Park (and the bus journey)!
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I’m sure you’ll like it!
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How unlucky was I? After many happy journeys to Devils Dyke (77) over more years than I care to mention, and even getting to Ditchling Beacon (79) once just pre-Covid, I finally got to sample the 78. The bus duly swung into the park, proceeded about fifty yards to beyond the trees and promptly terminated! There was some event taking place and the actual village closed off.
Hopefully, with a much improved timetable, my luck will improve next time. But yes, the White Bus 01 really does beat them all merely on route length and isolation from other ordinary traffic rather than dramatic scenery. Although views of the Castle, denied to Motorists, are pretty spectacular.
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The W3 runs through Alexandra Park in North London and I think the 210 on Spaniards Road Hampstead Heath counts. There are also a suprising number in London which run down roads with parks on both sides, but they aren’t technically in a park since its a different park on each side of the road. The 111, 216 and 461 on Hampton Court Road do this, and the 210 (again) with the 268 on North End Way.
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Also if we’re allowed to count Nature Reserves as well as parks then you should check our Dorest Community Transport’s RN1 which connects Arne Nature Reserve with Wareham (for SWR) and Norden (Swanage Railway).
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Thanks for that – will check that out sometime.
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Ah yes; the W3 is one of my top London bus routes.
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Used to live in that part of London and used it often.
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What an excellent service – Stanmer park is lovely, and for people living far away, there’s a video taken from the 78 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yWAQa3zoqg.
Has anyone attempted to gauge the additional network value of services like this? – there must be some extra journeys on the rest of the network to get to the 78 route, and, seeing as this must be a family attraction, maybe quite a lot of revenue gain. The every-70-minute service might put off people whose bus into town is only hourly and who don’t want to spend a lot of time waiting.
But in addition such services, which give bus users some of the flexibility that car users take for granted, may generate more bus use simply by existing. Terence Conran (of Habitat fame) said that 90% of the sheets he sold were the famous red ones; but, if he didn’t stock the full range, people wouldn’t come into the shop! So maybe – if the bus accountants can get their minds on to it – there is a case for more, and more frequent, services to parks, other attractions, late night entertainment etc. – but the idea of evaluating the system route by route would have to be superceded by a bigger view, of the whole system’s revenue.
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My question following on from Rick’s last point is, if an urban bus network as a whole is making a profit, why cut late evening or early morning journeys on a route by route basis just because they are lightly used?
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I think that the real point is …. does the urban route network as a whole actually make a profit?? Some may, but I’d speculate that many either don’t, or are borderline.
Most bus companies will be aware of new possibilities, but if the beancounters are in charge, then making up a business case will be difficult.
Two other points … there MUST be a reason for people to travel. If the town centre is empty in the evening (and most towns without a College or similar are), then all you will have is empty buses. And also …. if a network now closes by around 8pm, then the garage will close by around 9pm. Running later buses until 11pm will add costs, and it is right that these extra costs are charged to the late-night buses.
It’s great to speculate, and just maybe there IS a new opportunity available, but if the new route(s) don’t work, then the existing network might suffer financially.
There is never just one answer …..
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There are, of course, many bus services through National Parks; maybe not quite the same but mostly excellent scenery.
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I know your blog is about Britain but I would like to mention Ohlsdorf Cemetery in northern Hamburg. It might be the largest cemetery, depending on your definition, in the world and has two internal bus routes 170 and 270 running 2bph with a PVR of 3. Buses are timed at various chapels and the HVV (Hamburg PTE) even has a detailed map of the the routes on it’s website. When I was last there about ten years ago the routes used bendi-buses due to heavy loadings.
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Sounds fascinating Alan.
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The reason it’s the largest cemetery is profoundly sad; the result of the firestorm raids by the RAF and USAAF. How different from the delights of Stanmer can you get?
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I have that pocket bus timetable for the 3 route stated 21st of April 2023. Not sure I’d like that they do pocket timetables because a lot of them change on the website but you don’t have a new leaflet. I’ve go to two of those places but not Stanmer Village.
Other Park Park buses:
White Bus 01 Windsor | Sunningdale | Ascot
via Windsor Great Park.
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I’m not sure this one counts. There’s this Mini bus in Surrey. The Wisley Shuttle Bus runs from Woking Train Station to RHS Garden.
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Thanks for the tip. We are in Brighton next weekend for a wedding, staying near the University, so may take a trip out on the 78 on Sunday!
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Not sure if it goes into the actual parks of either property, but Go North East’s X75 is running on summer Saturdays from Newcastle to Belsay Hall and Wallington, and courtesy of funding from English Heritage and the National Trust it’s free to use this year.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/belsay-wallington-x75-returns
Despite the electric bus pictured on the press release, it appears from bustimes.org data to be double-deckers, which is definitely better for the views!
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I used the 77 one Sunday last month to get to Devil’s Dyke, returning with (I now know) a broken shoulder. Having heard that Brighton Station Urgent Care Centre doesn’t have X-Ray at the weekend I then took the 28 to Lewes Hospital (which, it turned out, also doesn’t!).
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This might be a bit off-piste – but what about Heaton Park Tramway?
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One of your very best articles – I shall use all the routes over the next few weeks. NB I am rather biased as I live in east Sussex!! Keep them coming!!!
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Good to see that the 2 for 1 offer for rail ticket holders is still on. I found it on the Brighton council site but not in the leaflet so wasnt sure. Wasn’t the breeze bit of the branding because the buses were open top? Presumably that eased the tree bashing reported in the park
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It eases the bus-bashing, but not the face-slapping!
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Family and I have been in all three. Weren’t they open top once? I’m sure I remember my daughter being excited about the bus with “no lid” on one Downs trip.
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Alas the 78 and 79 are beset with the scurge that afflicts the bus industry widened headways. I used to enjoy travelling on the 79 but every 70 mins you’ve lost me, can’t buses be interworked between routes and fed in by drivers meal reliefs. Brighton buses had maps and timetables on them they were in Bus times magazine available on board that customers could take away. What use is a map with City Centre as a blob. The 79 used to have excellent Scania buses on it, now it has Wright buses with restricted view on a scenic route. I’ve just spent the last week in Edinburgh taking in unobstructed views of the river Forth on identical buses on routes 43, 26 and tree lined 124 which have windows in the corner panels so it can be done.
When I asked I was told Bus Times couldn’t be produced as it required a member of staff to produce it, Brightons buses really have lost their MoJo….
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I spoke too soon, Brighton’s buses are loosing their red identity too. A city with many visitors needs branded not bland buses to help those unfamiliar with area. Current issues of branded buses on wrong routes is a management failing not a failure of the livery. I assume every bus stop flag will assume this bland identity too which will not assist those unfamiliar with routes. If you want a livery to reflect the city then blue and white to reflect the successful football club with its seagull emblem. On a more flippant note paint the buses in Pride livery or pink like Translink in Belfast, I asked a busman friend about spirit of Brighton, he replied pebbles (well they’ve got the giraffe bus in Edinburgh), he also wondered if the spirit of Brighton is being adopted will drivers be nude it would save a fortune in uniform costs.
First have just taken delivery of new green buses in Leicester with large Leicesters Buses fleetname with small brought to you by First lettering.
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