I rode the secret TrawsCymru bus route

IMG_8137.jpgMonday 11th February 2019

I’m a great fan of the TrawsCymru high profile long distance bus routes crisscrossing the Welsh nation. They compliment the rail network and provide some great connections between distant communities at impressive frequencies.

I’ve travelled multiple times on all the routes numbered T1 to T6, and always enjoy the truly amazing and contrasting scenery each has to offer.

The idea has come a long way since the National Bus Company and Welsh Office initiated a single north-south TrawsCambria branded route 700 between Cardiff and Bangor in 1979 running only on Fridays to Mondays with National Welsh and Crosville each providing a vehicle.

Fast forward through three decades with many route introductions, withdrawals and changes to find the TrawsCambria brand being used on a growing network of individual routes of a strategic nature until 2012/13 when the Welsh Government, by then well and truly behind the initiative, introduced a renaming to the snappier TrawsCymru and importantly provided funding for new vehicles to use on the services with a bright exterior livery and excellent standards of comfort inside.


IMG_7981.jpgSince deregulation it’s been tricky for the Welsh Government to subsidise and control routes which bus companies see as a commercial proposition in whole or in part across the network. For a time Arriva had a go at developing a small network under the CymruExpress brand. After that idea was abandoned the TrawsCymru network has stabilised and become well established.

An off the wall idea in 2017 to promote the benefits of the network and raise its profile was the introduction of free weekend travel for every passenger, much to the consternation of bus companies running parallel commercial bus routes over common sections of route. The Welsh Government are underwriting this ‘trial’ (which continues well into its second year) including compensating operators who can show loss of commercial revenue.

My eye was caught last summer by some online controversy concerning further plans for new east-west TrawsCymru routes across mid and north Wales. This included allegations of political bias that the new routes served favoured constituencies, a lack of transparency and procedures not being followed. All of which were denied.

In the event just one of the three proposed routes, the T12 between Machynlleth and Wrexham via Newtown, Welshpool and Oswestry reportedly began at short notice last September.

In a completely separate development last September, Stagecoach regained the tender for route 39 in the Brecon, Hay-on-Wye, Hereford corridor and agreed with the Welsh Government to link the route to the Cardiff to Brecon timetable on the T4 with an improved frequency bringing Hereford and Hay-on-Wye into the TrawsCymru network and renumber the extended 39 as T14. This route duly appeared on an updated TrawsCymru network map.

IMG_E8088.jpgMysteriously the new map omitted any reference to the T12. Indeed you’d be forgiven for thinking the T12 doesn’t exist with no mention of it on the TrawsCymru website at all, even now over five months since its introduction. It’s as if the route has done something wrong and must be kept a secret.

I decided to head over to Machynlleth and take a ride on it to check out whether it really does exist.

IMG_8249.jpgIt does.

The timetable can be found on the Lloyds Coaches website as well as Traveline. Intriguingly there’s no mention on the Tanet Valley Coaches website (checking their journey planner with two of the destinations served by the T12 returns a “no service exists” response) yet there are indeed 6-8 journeys on Mondays to Saturdays with Lloyds providing two buses (plus a peak school run along part of the route) and Tanet Valley three buses. The timetable states the route is funded by Powys County Council and TrawsCymru. The small print also confirms free travel is provided on Saturdays (there’s no Sunday T12 service) which together with the ‘T’ prefix route letter confirms it really is part of the TrawsCymru family.

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Screen Shot 2019-02-11 at 19.38.42.pngI can understand why TrawsCymru branding has yet to be applied to the buses (costly to revinyl or repaint for what might be regarded as a trial route perhaps) but almost six months since introduction you’d have thought the network map could have been updated (especially as it was amended to include the T14), details could be included on the TrawsCymru website and branding could be applied at bus stops and shelters along the route as impressively applies elsewhere throughout the network.

In Newtown there’s a nicely branded poster for the T4  but no mention of the secret T12.


IMG_8221.jpgInstead I found bus stops and shelters to be in a very poor condition and at Oswestry, for example, there was no mention at all of the T12 in the bus station information panel. Mind you, anomalously this section of the route is passing through England so perhaps Shropshire County Council prefer to keep this secret Welsh initiative an English secret too.


IMG_8162.jpgThere was also a distinct lack of printed timetable leaflets ….. anywhere. I’m really puzzled how potential passengers are expected to find out about such a useful bus service let alone be enticed to use it.

I planned to catch the 0857 departure this morning from Machynlleth station where Lloyds Coaches occupy the nearby former Crosville (and subsequently Arriva Wales) bus garage.

IMG_8140.jpgMy heart skipped a beat when I consulted the Powys County Council departure listings at the bus stop stating the first departure on the T12 was two hours later at 1057 which would have thrown my onward travel plans into disarray. Fortunately I then spotted this was a separate listing for Tanet Valley Coaches’ operated journeys on the T12. I needed to look at the separate entry above it for the Lloyds Coaches’ operated journeys (you really have to be streetwise in bus schedules in Powys) and was relieved to see an 0857 departure duly listed.


IMG_8145.jpgThe bus was reassuringly sitting on the garage forecourt after completing a school journey (handy contribution to the vehicle/driver costs) and pulled over to the bus stop spot on time.

IMG_8149.jpgI paid my £14 single fare to Wrexham, conveniently by contactless bank card, and asked the driver whether there was any provision for a toilet stop on the three hour thirty-eight minute journey that lay ahead. I wasn’t particularly relieved by the reply that “we have a nine minute break in Oswestry” as that wouldn’t be until after two and a half hours travelling but in the event there’s also a ten minute break in Newtown’s small bus station after an hour’s ride which proved timely and convenient! I’d like to add the driver drove superbly throughout the journey and is a credit to Lloyds.

My journey to Machynlleth on Sunday afternoon by train had entailed a rail replacement coach west of Newtown and I thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful scenery along the A470 so it was a pleasure to travel in the opposite direction on the T12 and enjoy the sights again from a different angle.

IMG_8335.jpgThe T12 pretty much follows the rail line all the way through Newtown to Welshpool where the former heads northeastwards towards Oswestry and Wrexham and the latter eastwards to Shrewsbury. The T12 also takes in the lovely town of Montgomery after Newtown.

IMG_8336.jpgWe took two passengers out of Machynlleth to nearby villages and after some miles of just me and the driver travelling together we picked up seven passengers at various stops on our way into Newtown.

IMG_8152.jpgAnother spell of solo riding followed from Newtown to Montgomery where one passenger boarded (travelling all the way to Oswestry) and that was it until Welshpool where five got on, two of whom soon alighted while three went to Oswestry as did six more boarding at various points either side of the Welsh/English border. Having emptied out in Oswestry again and enjoyed our little break one passenger boarded for Wrexham and another for just a short ride to the nearby town hospital.

Through Chirk there was some confusion among waiting passengers whether to board us or the following Arriva bus on route 2 behind. We take a more direct route into Wrexham which was favoured by two of the six passengers the other four opting for the all stops Arriva route 2, and finally as we entered Wrexham we picked up seven passengers at the hospital for the short ride to the town centre bus station so ended the ride with a respectable load.

IMG_8180.jpgInterestingly of the 32 passengers who travelled 27 were concessionary pass holders and five paid or had a prepaid ticket; 19 were female and 13 were male. Fairly typical of off peak travel characteristics most places these days. I wasn’t sure how the concessionary pass rules apply for the English boarders travelling across into Wales and vice-versa in these border areas – especially as we passed into England and back out again, but guess there’s some sensible knock for knock arrangement.

It looks to me as though the T12 has subsumed routes which previously connected some of the communities along the way, albiet possibly with an improved frequency. The free travel deal on a Saturday will be particularly attractive to younger people but that’s assuming they firstly know about the improved service, and secondly about the free fares. Neither of which are well publicised.

The T12 is a great addition to the TrawsCymru network of routes. With some proper promotion together with complimentary publicity for the Welsh rail network (one integrated map would be good – after all both are under the control of the Welsh Government); and some decent price offers – for example why not accept the Senior Railcard for a discounted fare on TrawsCymru for those English and Scottish visitors not in possession of a Welsh concessionary pass; and a proper makeover of the bus stops and shelters along the route – as has commendably been done elsewhere on the T1-T6 routes; and finally a nice attractive printed timetable leaflet with online information and an updated map ….. then who knows, the route could be the success it deserves to be!

Roger French

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  1. Quite right . . . . . the T12 is effectively three (maybe four) previous routes: Machynlleth-Newtown; Newtown-Welshpool; Welshpool-Oswestry (although the Newtown-Welshpool section might have been split at Montgomery).

    I simply cannot understand the TrawsCymru desire for secrecy . . . . . with inspired promotion and publicity (step forward Best Impressions?) the network could be so much more. There is, I believe, another segment to come involving the Llangollen-Corwyn-Denbigh-Rhyl corridor, but this is stalled, I suspect pending negotiations over the partially commercial services thereon.

    T12 is on my wish list as well . . . . . one day!!

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  2. Roger,
    Interesting read about your trip on the secrete route T12. As you are aware this June the original TrawsCambria service will be celebrating it’s 40th anniversary. To mark this occasion in the development of Welsh public transport a number of owners of preserved coaches from the period will be re-creating parts of two ex-TrawsCambria routes (700 Bangor-Cardiff and 702 Liverpool-Cardiff), with a road run on Saturday 22 June 2019 from Chester to Merthyr Tydfil/Cardiff. Our route will go via Wrexham, Oswestry, Welshpool, Newtown, Llandrindod Wells, Builth Wells and Brecon. For details visit: http://www.redandwhitebus.uk/rallies

    You’re welcome to join us, for the ride if you’re available!
    Jonathan Radley

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  3. One way to improve the integration of the Traws Cymru bus services with the rail network would be for TfW to bring back integrated ticketing. Up until 2016 the “Explore Wales” flexi pass (and its separate North and South Wales versions) were valid on all Welsh trains and the vast majority of Welsh buses, including Lloyds Coaches. Then Arriva Trains Wales arbitrarily restricted bus participation to just four operators: Arriva, First, Stagecoach and Cardiff Bus, cutting out at a stroke almost all the Traws Cymru network! Given that TfW now has responsibility for both rail and Traws Cymru buses restoration of this facility should be an easy first step on the road to integration.
    But if you want to check the details of the Explore Wales tickets on line please bear in mind that details of them are well hidden on the TfW site, whilst the Network Rail site doesn’t mention bus validity at all!

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    1. Very good point. I used an Explore Wales ticket a couple of years ago and found most staff had no idea of validity so just bluffed my way on a number of bus routes! But it shouldn’t be like that as you rightly say.


  4. A great read thank you. I see deregulation once again placing obstacles in the way of developing a sensible, stable public transport network but hopefully as the Welsh government matures and grows in confidence it will gradually throw off the craziest of the central government policies. I spent a lot of time in the area around Aberystwyth, Machynlleth, Dolgellau and Aberdyfi in the 1980’s and have very fond memories. It was possible to get about without a car but not without planning. Nothing on a Sunday until later in the decade. And no drinking in Aber either as Ceredigion was a dry county. TrawsCymru is a great idea but the routes are long. I can sort of accept the lack of an on board toilet as long as there are breaks but what about luggage. Long routes are by definition inter city or at least inter town and provide the sort of trips you could make on a train if one were available. I like the SETRA’s used by Swiss Post Bus which are very comfortable for long trips and have luggage holds underneath. Thanks again.

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  5. As a 60 year bus enthusiast and photographer, your fantastic article shows a must do on my next visit from my home in Spain. As a non UK resident these days I am not sure what the best option is for a week long trip. Have recently posted lots of pictures from Bangor in my Flickr and will put up the Cardiff stuff at the weekend. Also @mbuses with link on Twitter. Bus information and conversation almost exclusively.

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  6. A great read, Roger, thank you.

    I turned 60 in August 2018 and now, armed with my Welsh Concessionary Bus Pass, make use of it several days of the week. I too am a sixty year old bus enthusiast and photographer (a nod to Michael Preston and his comment above!), and travel up and down on the T6 between Ystradgynlais and Craig-y-Nos Country Park in the Upper Swansea Valley several days a week with my dog, to work at my photography studio/office at the park.

    A couple of points to add. Firstly, with reference to criss-crossing the Welsh/English border with concessionary bus passes, I have read that as long as the passenger’s journey both starts and ends in the country that the bus pass is designated for, then crossing over in to the other country enroute is fine (this is certainly the case for my Welsh bus pass). Secondly, (I believe) that the bus shelters and stops are owned and managed by the council and not the bus companies, which would explain how some of the time tables placed at some bus stops are not actually 100% accurate. For example, the time table for the T6 leaving Ystradgynlais and heading to Brecon states that the first bus Monday to Saturday is at 07:34, whereas in fact, there is a 06:10 and a 06:40 (I have made use of both). These earlier buses apprear on Traveline, but not on the Powys-managed(?) time tables at the bus stops!

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