Avanti’s Class 805s enter service

Monday 10th June 2024

GWR did a business like launch with Japanese involvement. LNER did the full blown razzmatazz with dry ice and christened the trains Azuma. Lumo had its whole project to launch and TransPennine Express named their’s Nova 1. But when it came to Avanti West Coast putting its brand new Hitachi 800 series trains into service last Sunday (we’re up to Class 805) it was uncharacteristically quiet on the high profile launch front (maybe the General Election purdah period has intervened?) but anything LNER does … and all that … Avanti have also engaged the brand name consultants who’ve played around with three vowels and two consonants and come up with …. EVERO.

Surprisingly I couldn’t find any reference to the name on the train – 805010 – I had a ride on from Chester last Thursday morning during the fleet’s debut week in service.

Avanti have got 13 of these new five-coach bi-mode trains to replace its fleet of Voyagers on the London to Chester and North Wales/Holyhead route as well as 10 seven-coach electric powered trains destined to run between Euston and Birmingham, Liverpool and Blackpool when they’re delivered.

I’ve never been a fan of the Voyagers although the recent refurbishment has shown them off in a better light but I’m also not a great fan of the Hitachi 800s but that’s mainly because of the lack of seat comfort in the initial fleets delivered to GWR and LNER.

Seats in the TPE and Lumo versions are much better and it’s good to see Avanti has built on its experience with seats in the refurbished Pendolinos with the seats, tables and ambiance in these new Everos very similar.

The seats in First Class obviously offer much greater comfort although a small niggle is the arm rest on the window side of a single seat doesn’t lift up, making plugging into the three-pin/usb socket slightly awkward…

… although sockets are located in between the pairs of seats, therefore not being so much of a problem.

The end coach has a kitchen/galley but it’s a lot smaller for staff to work in than on the Pendilinos but it does mean there are more seats in the First Class section forming the rest of the coach. Seven single seats and three tables for four plus two seats …

… opposite the space for wheelchairs.

As you can see in Standard Class the seats are very similar (if not the same?) as in the Pendilinos but the ambiance doesn’t feel anywhere near as claustrophobic due to the deeper windows. This is the end coach at the opposite end of the train to First Class….

… where there’s a space for wheelchairs…

… opposite two single seats.

The middle three coaches, as with that end one, have a mixed layout of airline style and tables for four – there are four each side of the gangway in the middle coaches – as well as luggage racks at each end.

There’s also space for luggage in between the seats at the tables for four.

Legroom is good at both the tables…

… and the airline seats…

In airline seats there’s a three-pin socket and two usb sockets at the base of the double seat in front…

… and there’s the usual above seat reservation lights…

… two universal toilets (one in each end coach) …

… and standard toilets in between coaches.

There’s a substantial litter bin by each door.

And that’s about it. Nice train and the seats are much better than on GWR or LNER.

As with the Voyagers, Avanti are running some of the five-coach trains singly and some doubled up to form a ten-coach train.

Finally, I assume Avanti knows what it’s doing replacing nine coach trains to Birmingham, Liverpool and Blackpool with seven coach trains – once that batch arrives and enters service. It seems an odd decision to me …… (update), although as Andrew observes in the Comments the coaches are longer with a higher capacity than the Pendolinos, so that probably makes up for the difference.

Roger French

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  1. Apparently, the coaches are longer so the overall capacity of a 7-car Evero is roughly the same as a 9-car Pendolino.

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  2. No mention of cycle provision? I ask having recently discovered when planning a trip to Scotland that Lumo (uniquely?) has a total ban on non-folding bikes – which regulatory body would have permitted this?

    Roger G, Oxford

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    1. Cycle provision is available on the trains in the normal IET storage style.

      https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/travel-information/onboard/about-our-trains/evero

      In regards to cycle removal on Lumo –

      as they are Open Access, there is nothing stopping them, or with exception from the ORR/DfT, other operators banning bikes from their service – the exception is if part of an accessibility requirement ie part of a wheelchair and then it is carried , but the ‘bike’ bit may

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    2. As I understand it the regulator not only allowed it, but is in fact the source of the problem (and the parallel luggage issues) since Lumo’s Open Access Agreement specifies a minimum number of seats per train. And of course being the UK the only solution to this is to cram the trains with seats, rather than add an extra carrage (or stop running stupid five car trains on lines where there is shortage of timetable slots).

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  3. Roger, the 805s actually came into service on Sun 2 June, a day earlier than you’ve said. Some friends of mine did them that morning.

    I had to wait until the Tuesday, and found the seats harder than LNER Azumas. Could be my subjective bias, or bedding in, of course. Rob.

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  4. It would appear from the photos that the carriage-end single seats suffer from having no windows at at all, and that other seats have severely restricted views. It also appears that the wheelchair spaces might not be great for the view, but as these will have been tested by user groups we can perhaps assume all is well.
    Stuart R

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    1. Yes, in UK regulators should mandate sears of a certain size to which operating companies then have to run trains with the appropriate number of carriages. Sadly, this isn’t the case.

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  5. The wings on the headrests may add slightly to comfort, but they further restrict the view out of the window, already reduced by the high seat backs and “airline-style” seat layout. A pity.

    Don’t think I’ll be using the Evero name; I have enough trouble remembering if the TOC is Avanti or Aventra (or on a bad day, Aviva or Avensis).

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  6. The 7 car sets is so AWC services can call at stations AWC doesn’t currently serve because the platforms are shorter than even 9 car train sets.

    One plan is when Liverpool goes to 2TPH, one service an hour will call at Liverpool South Parkway, the platforms at Liverpool South Parkway are too small for even 9 car pendolinos, the Liverpool Lime Street blockade a few years ago, AWC terminated at Liverpool South Parkway but only 1 platform [P4] was able to be extended to accommodate 11 car pendolinos, even then trains departing for Euston had to shunt north to use the crossover before heading South.

    SM

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  7. I took the opportunity to sample an Evero between Rugby and Birmingham New Street recently.

    I hope the Evero’s settle down to the virtually bullet proof reliability I’ve enjoyed from Pendolinos over the years.

    My first impression was tarnished by the automated station announcement at Rugby advising that the train was slightly late due to “more trains than usual requiring repairs at same time”, that’s a Avanti excuse I haven’t heard before!

    It was formed of two units but due to limited First class accomodation there was no Standard Premium.

    Like Roger I’m no fan of Voyagers and Evero’s are more capacious as can been seen train layouts downloadable from Avanti’s website.

    https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/travel-information/onboard/about-our-trains

    Seasoned standard Pendolino travellers in unreserved seats expect to put their bag on the seat next to them, with those at tables not sitting opposite each other due to limited leg room, that also features on Evero’s

    One of the delights of seats without windows is that on busy trains they are usually available even at the last minute and frankly I just want a train that safe, reliable and convenient.

    London to Coventry usually 52 minutes on the hourly fast trains…..Pendolino bliss

    John Nicholas

    Complimentary Rover

    Arriving Euston on LNWR listening to announcement “Apologies we are delayed by sleeper running 90 minutes late”!

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