Thursday 2nd October 2025
There’s never a dull moment in Cornwall’s ever changing bus scene.

In recent times we’ve seen……First Bus show no interest in its Cornish operations, running ageing second hand vehicles in a dreadful state transferred from other parts of the country…

… allowing the rising star that was Western Greyhound…

…to steal a march and gain significant market share only for the latter to eventually come a cropper and First Bus start taking Cornwall seriously again with much welcome and significant investment in new vehicles along with high profile attractive route branding…

…to ward off any threats of franchising by the newly formed unitary Cornwall Council and its prized devolved powers and substantial funding only to lose out to Go-Ahead which won the subsequent countywide Transport for Cornwall tendered network which saw the introduction of a large fleet of modern buses…

…including subcontracting locally based smaller bus companies to be involved…

…while First Bus picked itself up and supplemented its proudly run small commercial network with revitalised high profile brands…

…and launching a whole series of additional routes aimed at the seasonal tourist market…

…..only to change tack again earlier this year by replacing some of its newest buses with imported hand-me-downs from other parts of the country once more, still bearing evidence of their native brands…

…while losing any interest in promoting the brands it had only recently invested in, while just last month losing a large contract taking students to and from Truro College to Go-Ahead which has used that gain as a springboard from 1st September to launch competitive routes against First Bus on four key corridors, surpassing any competition once evident in the Western Greyhound era.
And this time round industry watchers (including this one) are musing whether this is the beginning of the end of First Bus in Cornwall which can only be the thinking behind Go-Ahead’s move.
Readers may recall I visited Cornwall at the beginning of the summer season in June and found a very down-at-heel collection of vehicles in a hotchpotch of liveries with the company’s management obviously showing no interest in the brands it had spent so much energy and finance developing in recent years. There was much evidence of newly installed commercial advertising slapped on the sides of buses without removing the route branding previously adorning the vehicles aimed at attracting passengers to travel.

Those buses which continue to carry route branding were mostly on the wrong routes to the extent it almost looked as though it was being done intentionally as an act of self harm. Below is just one example of many where a bus branded for a route between Redruth and Falmouth is in service miles away in Truro.

It’s perhaps not surprising, three months on with the same situation having continued throughout the summer season (see above and below photos taken last weekend) Go-Ahead, having won the substantial Truro College contract involving around 20 double deck buses, has decided to go for the kill and aggressively compete with what can only be described as an ailing First Kernow.

However, to maintain a sense of balance in describing this evolving situation I should also add, whereas First Bus management suffers from being geographically remote inasmuch as it covers an area stretching from Penzance to Slough (whoever sanctioned such a ridiculous management structure obviously has no experience of what it takes to run an effective and responsive bus company), over at Go-Ahead owned Go-Cornwall Bus (GCB) this expanded twenty or so bus network is being driven largely by agency drivers on a three month contract with no long term loyalty to the company (relishing instead the flexible freedom offered by the lack of commitment to a fixed employer) and driving ageing hand-me-down second hand buses from Plymouth and London which offer none of the fineries passengers now expect from a modern bus service keen on attracting custom such as comfortable seats, next stop announcements and displays, WiFi and usb sockets and with some exhibiting battered lower panels too (see below).

If First Kernow chose to, it could easily protect its core base, now being so brutally attacked, by reverting back to the high standards it achieved at the beginning of this decade, turning out smartly presented buses demonstrating consistent and attractive branding that would show up the new interloper for what it is: just creaming off passengers with the minimum of effort.

This act of aggression between two previously harmonious partners must be causing some consternation at Cornwall Council. Its much appreciated comprehensive Bus Times book duly includes details of all the competing routes including, in two of the four cases, composite timetable presentations (albeit produced on its behalf by GCB) showing just how aggressive the competition is particularly between the T1/T2 and 41…

… but also between the U4 and 2…

… but this is somewhat academic as, in a retrograde move, the Council has severely limited the number of copies of Bus Times it has printed to save costs such that it’s not available anywhere for passengers to pick up a copy.
I sampled all four contested corridors last Saturday to see the situation on the road four weeks into the new competitive regime.

First up was the most hotly contested corridor where GCB has introduced a new 20 minute frequency route 41 to compete against First Kernow’s 15 minute frequency routes T1 and T2 on the important Truro-Redruth-Camborne trunk route with the latter continuing westwards each running half hourly to either Penzance or St Ives.

I caught the 08:00 departure from Truro’s bus station on the 41 with the bus waiting on stand (but with no driver) next to the 08:01 route T1 departure to Penzance on the adjacent stand with driver on board scooping up the half dozen waiting passengers.
That bus left on time as the agency driver on the 41 appeared from the staff facilities opposite the bus station and opened the door to just myself and one other passenger who’d just arrived.

Before we’d left the built up area of the city we passed the aforementioned T1 as it paused to wait time at a bus stop but it didn’t matter which went first as there were no other passengers from there all the way to Redruth, where I alighted with the T1 on our tail.

I crossed over and caught the 08:50 41 back to Truro which had six on board on arrival from Camborne and in a blatant creaming off picked up six more on the journey to Truro who otherwise would have caught the 08:57 T2 behind us.

The 41 avoids calling into the First Kernow owned Camborne bus station and terminates to the west of the town in Treswithian and it should also be observed, as with the other three newly introduced competitive routes, there are significantly widened frequencies during Monday to Friday morning and afternoon college times (eg over an hour’s gap) when the buses are committed to what they’re fundamental raison d’être is – ie college student transport. Furthermore none of these competitive GCB bus routes operate on a Sunday.
Next up from Truro I caught the 09:40 departure on GCB’s new hourly route 86 which brings competition to the Truro to Newquay corridor also served by a number of varied routes but in particular First Kernow’s route 87 which, like the 86 goes via Perranporth on the Atlantic coast but to a rather inconvenient 40 minute frequency.

I nearly missed the bus resorting to waving vigorously at the agency driver as he was about to leave the bus station. He’d been waiting on a stand on the east side of the island bus station rather than the scheduled stand on the west side telling me his stand had been blocked, such are the challenges of the new competitive situation.
Route 86’s attraction is it runs direct via Shortlanesend to Perranporth taking just 28 minutes whereas First Kernow’s 87 follows a more indirect route via St Agnes taking 55 minutes.

However the reverse is true between Perranporth and Newquay with the 87 running direct and taking 40 minutes while the 86 does the wandering via Holywell, taking 58 minutes.

GCB might be on to something offering a quicker way to Perranporth but sadly on Saturday morning just one passenger joined me for that section of route and where we both alighted.

I waited for the next (10:42) journey back to Truro on route 86 and while doing so observed an 87 pass through in both directions with around a dozen or so passengers on each.

One passenger alighted as the 10:42 route 86 arrived from Newquay with four boarding – two of whom had let the 87 go, which departed earlier but would arrive in Truro later – and six more boarded en route in Shortlanesend, a village now enjoying two buses an hour to Truro, thanks to the 86, rather than just the previous hourly route 85 also operated by GCB.

My third route sampling was new hourly route 32 which has been superimposed by GCB on top of First Kernow’s half hourly route U1 between Truro and Falmouth via the all important Exeter University campus at Penryn.

However while new route 32 also serves the University campus it misses out the community of Penryn itself by following the A39 bypass instead. However this doesn’t offer any end-to-end journey time saving.

It does call by at the large Asda on the edge of Penryn which the U1 doesn’t serve.

Eight passengers left Truro on the 12:15 departure with eight more students boarding at the University campus. Another classic creaming off.

My fourth and final foray was on new route 2 which competes with First Kernow’s route U4 between Helston and Penzance with the latter commencing its route in Falmouth on an hourly frequency.

I caught the 13:40 U4 from Falmouth as far as Helston’s Tesco where I changed to the following competitive route 2 at 15:03. The U4 had arrived into Falmouth on its previous journey with what looked like around 50-60 passengers many of whom were obviously students from the University campus at Penryn, which it serves, and I’d estimate around a dozen travelled back on the journey towards Penzance.

Two passengers boarded the bus on route 2 from Helston and travelled to Marazion with one boarding in Praa Sands and eight travelled from Marazion to Penzance.

The U4 runs hourly…

… as does the competing 2 from Helston but upping the ante is another hourly short journey on the 2 running between Goldsithney and Penzance.

As you can see from the foregoing, there weren’t a lot of passengers travelling on the last Saturday in September with the summer season well and truly at an end. This situation isn’t going to improve during the forthcoming winter months so I assume GCB’s management is prepared to accept what could be many months of mounting losses, waiting to see if First Bus is also prepared to accept mounting losses as a consequence of losing those passengers catching the first bus that comes (as opposed to the First bus that’s second).

But is the prize worth it for Go-Ahead? First Kernow has never been a money spinner while agency drivers (and their accommodation costs) don’t come cheap. Twenty buses worth of work must be around £4.5-£5 million of annual costs and although revenue from the college contract is no doubt substantial (albeit that was subjected to aggressive tendering), creaming off passengers is not going to be enough to make for that all important profit.

With mounting losses it might come down to which of these two corporate titans blinks first.
Whichever way it goes it’ll add another interesting chapter to the bus provision story in Cornwall.

And another thought …. I’m not sure doing away with the name Kernow is going to endear those shiny new corporate First Bus purple and grey colours to the good folk of the fiercely independent county that is Cornwall.

Time will tell.
And finally, just to mention I managed to arrive in Truro at 16:50 on Friday afternoon just as the staffed waiting room in the bus station was closing for the weekend (well, we don’t want facilities like waiting rooms open over a busy weekend in a tourist destination) and asked the member of staff if I could have a copy of Bus Times.

I could tell from her facial expression she was tired of telling everyone not enough were printed and there aren’t any to be had anywhere. She asked me which route I was wanting but I replied unhelpfully “all of them” as she showed me a supply of printed sheets for half a dozen routes laid out on a coffee table.

What a way to inform or promote passengers about a bus network that’s received millions of taxpayers money as a supposed exemplar to behold for others to follow.

And this on top of notices on all the doors advising of a fourth fares increase so far this year indicating the publicly funded cheap fares pilot has not been the success hoped for and so too are the wheels coming off the provision of information, although I was impressed all bus stop timetable departure listings noted on my travels were up to date as were the large departure listings for each route displayed outside the bus station waiting room….

… and the countywide maps on display (albeit they’re so difficult to read and make out the multitude of different colours)…

As I was leaving the waiting room full of disappointment at not getting a Bus Times, I spotted a rolled up magazine style booklet lodged in between the promotional leaflets those enlightened companies, keen to encourage business from customers, distribute in copious numbers in a leaflet rack that looked suspiciously like a discarded Bus Times … and sure enough it was.

A prized copy. And maybe the last?

I sincerely hope not.
Roger French
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I thought the Go Ahead services were put on for mainly for college students as First have refused to accept college tickets for yhe Go Ahead services. I assume they also dont accept Stsgecoach tickets from their Citnwall College services.
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GoAhead are taking everyone for fools if they expect us to believe that. Only one of the competing routes serves the college in any case!
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thanks for your usual in-depth analysis-is this the fall out at Go-Ahead from the sad passing of the amazing Andrew Wickham
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Unless I’m greatly mistaken, Andrew Wickham certainly wasn’t adverse to shipping in buses with other operators’ liveries to launch a competitive strike.
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Andrew Wickham was MD of Go South Coast – with their ops in Wilts/Dorset/Hants/Dorset and IOW. The operations in Devon and Cornwall come under Go South West under the leadership of Richard Stevens.
I’ve heard the official line that the introduction of new services is to provide facilities for Truro College students as First won’t accept their tickets. To me, that sounds like an exercise in plausible deniability. The reality is that they are going in for the kill and these competitive services are merely there to try to force First out with a view to the retender and award of the Cornwall network in 2028.
Roger notes that after the loss of the tendered network, First came back with refreshed brands et al. I think that needs to be tempered somewhat. Not least that it was the old management team of Alex Carter and Marc Morgan-Huws who were in charge when First failed to secure the tenders which is essentially where this all dates from. Also, their new commercial forays were not universally successful – the illustration of the DayTripper vehicle is a case in point (and I recall Roger sampling this) where off peak journeys were operated to tourist hotspots but a complex interworking/connecting buses, a driver shortage and operational constraints meant it was a nightmare.
Under the Fearnley regime, I’d have had no doubts that First would hunker down and let Go Ahead burn through some cash. Under Janette Bell, who has seen the exit of First from Lothian and Southampton, you question how long the patience will be?
BW2
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What an interesting article. By the way, its Falmouth not Redruth & Falmer!
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Doh! Thanks for spotting that. Now corrected. Falmer would indeed be a long way from Truro!
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Towards the beginning of this excellent blog, you include a picture of a First vehicle branded for Copper and say it is a route from Redruth to Falmer. Take it that should be Falmouth! Unless First management have decided to take competition with Go Ahead to an extreme with a route right along the South Coast!!
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Many thanks for spotting that. Now corrected. Falmer to Redruth would indeed be extreme competing!
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The whole story arc of the supposedly wondrous Cornwall Council county-wide tender award through to now does seem to be a series of mismanagement and poor results. (And a lot of taxpayers money gone into it as you say Roger.)
Go-Ahead were in a way lucky Covid came when it did, which hid what would’ve been a very public wheels falling off situation as has happened in previous big tender awards like this such as Dorset, etc.
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If we take 2019 as the baseline, Cornwall has out-performed the rest of the South West, but has failed to generate any growth:
South West. 2019 = 217.0m trips, 2024 = 178.3m (-18%)
Cornwall. 2019 = 12.1m trips, 2024 = 11.1m (-8%)
It’s worth pointing out that despite what you might believe from various puff pieces in the industry press and awards submissions, according to the DfT statistics there are no significant local authories where bus usage is higher than 2019. And a bunch which are generally considered to be very good (e.g. Reading, Oxford, Brighton) that are still significantly down.
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I suspect your use of the word “significant” is doing some heavy lifting there. There are some like Blackburn & Darwen or Central Beds that have got back to more than 2019 levels (I don’t know how). There are Southampton and Portsmouth that have now got back to 2019 levels or just above.
Perhaps more significantly, which other authorities of similar size have bounced back as well if not better. East Sussex, Essex, Cambs, Lincs, North Yorkshire (!) and York, and without the funding that Cornwall has enjoyed.
BW2
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Here Birmingham City Services are carrying more passengers than before Covid-19 & some core routes have recently had thier frequencies increased.
However across The Black Country passengers numbers have never recovered from Covid-19 with much fewer passengers using the network hence the major retrenchment of National Express West Midlands which has seen services such as 12 Birmingham to Dudley & 15 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton now Wombourne halved in frequencies with reductions on the 126 from Birmingham to Dudley & now from January the replacement of NXWM by Diamond Bus on the 19 from Queen Elizabeth Hospital to Dudley under contract to TfWM
I will perhaps gloss over the passenger numbers in Coventry……..
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Official figures to 2024 show it at 89% for West Midlands. Broadly similar to Merseyside and West Yorkshire. South Yorkshire is the metro area that is a real outlier being only at 71% of 2019 levels. Naturally, there will be variations within any area.
BW2
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That is the average for the West Midlands County.
Birmingham City Services are 110% of Pre Covid Levels.
The Black Country has significantly less users than pre-covid.
Overall the total number of bus passenger journeys in W3st Midlands County was 174.7 million
Concessionary travel was 30.1 million and non-concessionary (commercial) travel was 144.6 million journeys.
Based on the most recent data.
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Another example of the follies route branding causes when large groups constantly need to re-allocate vehicles.
I suppose Go-Ahead just couldn’t resist the challenge on trying to finally oust the “wounded animal” that First has become by losing half it’s core work. But this has the seeds of a very costly exercise for all and will give the opponents of privatisation just the ammunition they crave.
Terence Uden
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I can report that the timetable book is still available at some of the smaller outlets. I picked up a copy at Looe library without difficulty earlier this week.
Peter Murnaghan
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Another fascinating, blog Roger!
The words ‘creaming off’ have been used numerous times in the piece at the same time comparing differences in competing routes versus the established pattern. Can’t be both, can it?
I predict further upheaval ahead with ultimately no meaningful profits being made by either concern. Would franchising be so bad?
Dan Tancock
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It’s Camborne not Cambourne. 🙂
The only newer buses that have been transfered out have been half a dozen Solos for which no suitable work remains. The vast majority of buses removed due to the latest contract losses have been the oldest Geminis, many of which had only quite recently arrived. Such has been the contraction, First’s Cornish fleet is probably now one of the most youthful in the First empire!
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Thanks; Camborne corrected. Interesting point re the fleet age, thanks.
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Ah but do they stop on Wednesdays?
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Local jokes for local people! 🙂
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Good morning Roger,
Thank you for another interesting investigation.
There are a number of examples of Cambourne instead of Camborne.
Best regards,
Andrew Sutherland
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Hopefully now all corrected. Thanks.
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There seems to be a lot of excess capacity and that cannot last for long
The other problem Cornwall has is its traffic is very seasonal
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It is surprising that FirstGroup continue to plod on managing decline in both Cornwall & Worcester where other operators just seem to be waiting in the wings to register services if they pull out as they did in Hereford.
One thought though I wonder if the impending loss of the Great Western rail framchise in the both areas will be factor in the long future of the bus decisions Roger?
As ever brilliant analysis of the current situation. Thank you as always for the excellent standards of your blog. I sm sure most of us who enjoy your work fully appreciate it
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Post rail privatisaton, Transport UK will also be left running a little over 10% of the London bus market and nothing else. If they can’t win contacts in Liverpool or Yorkshire its hard to see a long term future for them. With most of the overseas groups nolonger interested in playing in London, ironically First might be their only buyer assuming it wanted to double down on London.
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To be honest given its constant cancellations & short formings on the Snow Hill Lines most regular uses will be glad to see the back of Transport UK & its operation of West Midlands Trains.
I think you have made a very strong and valid point here Phil of the long term strategic direction of Transport UK Group following the lose of its rail franchises .
FirstGroup will still be involved in rail operation with its open access rail companies but I do agree is hard to see where Transport UK is heading & am sure we would value an article ftom Roger on this in the future
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Train cancellations surged by 50 per cent when the Government nationalised South Western Railway (SWR) earlier this year.
Both delays and cancellations rose after the May 2025 takeover of SWR by the government.
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Largely driven by a litany of failures on NR’s part, and if the private sector hadn’t screwed up the 455s would have been long gone.
“In period 3 we experienced signalling problems in the Southampton area, a fatality at Surbiton and a significant trespass incident at Clapham Junction. We also dealt with problems affecting our Class 450 and Class 455 trains.
In period 4 we were affected by a major signalling failure at London Waterloo, a cable failure at Wimbledon and a signalling system failure at Staines. The unusually hot weather impacted our train fleet, as well as other infrastructure.
In period 5 we continued to feel the effects of the major signalling failure at London Waterloo, while the driest spring and summer conditions ever resulted in speed restrictions and a reduced timetable for the West of England line. We were also affected by a fatality at Wimbledon.”
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First have been very acquisitive in looking to spread their risk and diversify. The seemingly endless purchase of coach businesses is testimony to that.
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First’s PVR in the whole of Cornwall can’t be more than about 70 now (based on the latest Cornwall timetable).
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It’s about that, yes. The Truronian fleet has also decreased to a small rump.
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A surfeit of buses in West Cornwall. Meanwhile in East Cornwall numerous complaints of unreliability and regular cancellations on Stagecoach services in Saltash (and Tavistock etc) due to a shortage of buses and priority being given to the newly won Callywith College contracts. Go Ahead increasing it’s service on the main corridor north out of Plymouth. All feeds the argument for franchising.
17A
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As always a very interesting piece Roger.
Are we looking at the final bus wars as deregulation comes to an end?
It seemed strange to me that when the Cornwall routes were contracted that this did not cover the whole network and therefore left First with some commercial routes. Would have been strange if the Bee Network had left out some trunk routes like the 192. By doing this Cornwall have inadvertently encouraged the current situation which does nothing but give a poor view of the bus industry.
The timing of this aggression is also strange as surely there would be more to had during the summer? With college contract under pinning the costs we’ll have to see who blinks first.
Richard Warwick
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Truro to Falmer? Now there’s an interesting route Roger
Steve Thomas
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It’s got an AI generated timetable too, Steve!
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It would be interesting to make a visit to Plymouth, where many of the newest Stagecoach double deckers have moved to Cornwall, for their contract operations, leaving allegations of missing journeys, together with the use of single deckers providing insufficient capacity,
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On the subject of the Falmouth to Truro route, Go-Ahead previously had plans for a competing express route, skipping the university campus and the smaller villages, but it never materialised. Perhaps if they want to compete, focusing on getting the non-university passengers there quicker would be the selling point.
Also, when First Kernow split the previous U1 Falmouth to Newquay route into two separate routes, they also severed the connection from the Falmouth end to Treliske Hospital. No doubt there would be some eager passengers wanting to save on two separate buses and fares if Go-Ahead re-established it.
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This doesn’t look good for either First or Go-Ahead in Cornwall, maybe they should merge their operations into a Joint-Venture? Running services like they both currently are surely cannot be viable over the long term?
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I agree with you, once again, Roger, on the issue of getting timetable booklets for Buses…I think they should exist for ALL Public Transport – Train, Express Coach and Local Stagecarriage Buses!!!!
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As for the timetable booklet, the word is that they just printed 1000. We normally have one in our library as a reference item, but have been unable to obtain one this winter.
Also, agree with Terence about the uselessness of route branding on the sides of buses. As long as you can see the route number on the front as it approaches, who cares what the sides look like?
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Print costs are very much volume related and a 1000 is a small run. 10,000 would not cost a fortune more and how much more passenger revenue would it generate ?
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First has a very short attention span, everything is ephemeral. Who remembers the high profile launch of Glasgow Overground with promises of stability just like a rail network. This started the branding fad, with smaller towns getting “metro” instead of “overground “. This included Bath, half hearted branding application to the bare minimum of buses, regular allocation of branded vehicles to wrong services.
York “ftr”, the over hyped BRT that wasn’t (no infrastructure).
Swansea “ftr metro” this had infrastructure but the tram like bendy buses went to bed early in the evenings (probably due to the cost of conductors), so part time BRT! Long gone now, including the core two way city centre bus priority. How much tax payers money spaffed on that I wonder.
Buses of Somerset? Branding only applied to some of the fleet. Constantly diluted by national fleet merry-go-round.
Badgerline? Popular local operator swept away with original national corporate First brand. Brought back (but only in Weston-super-Mare), likely to be swept away by new ebuses in new national livery.
Bristol City services, appalling mash up of various iterations of First national and local branding , new ebuses appearing as WECA (West of England CombinedAuthority) “Westbus” in all over green.
Peter Brown
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As if First Kernow are not in enough trouble already the RMT is balloting staff for strike action over pay. Maybe that’ll be the straw that breaks the camel’s back and First use it as an excuse to close up shop.
Jim
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I’m surprised the timetable for the 41 doesn’t have a stop with ‘Camborne’ in its name, as from an outsider’s point of view catching a bus I’d wait for a First T1/T2 as that clearly has a Camborne named stop after the 41’s terminus point and I wouldn’t know that central Camborne was between Tuckingmill and Treswithian.
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GCB is generally better than First info-wise (ghost buses and a lack of info on delays). They’re also much better fleet out west and tend to be more reliable in my experience at least on the contracted routes. Pretty stupid someone at the Council hasn’t tried to get them to do it clockface for U4/2 – would be great otherwise…
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The fares were never cheap enough to attract enough people at any point & there is serious reliability issues with there being a dearth of bus lanes, etc. to help them along. No true investment, no effective results.
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I share Roger’s frustration at trying to obtain the Cornwall Timetable Book. Compared with 2024 when they were freely available, they were difficult to obtain in May/June 2025, when I was told by the Liskeard Tourist Office that they were only for pensioners who were not on line (I am 78). However the Tourist Office in Truro willing posted me a copy on paying the £2.50 postage, which I was very happy to do. No copies available at the Truro bus station. Yes I can look at timetables on line, but for checking times, nothing beats the paper copy with map, especially for short notice changes of plan. Use of the buses in June 2025 was very good, especially by visitors with English National Bus Passes who realised that the bus (and train) was a good alternative to crowded roads and exorbitant parking charges. Hope the problems get sorted before our 2026 visit.
Brian Willson
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Cornwall is proof to me that ‘Enhanced Partnerships’ are not enough. Transport for Cornwall has done some good by unifying tickets but prices appeared to increase 3 times this year, information was good initially but beyond disappointing now. Why don’t they just sell the Bus Times for £1 or £2 and ensure all libraries and tourist information get copies?
Also sorry but this competition is faux!! If we want ridership to increase, we need coordination of routes. What this blog shows is the usual race to the bottom, where one company eventually forces the other out! The service is worse and more complicated in the long run. It’s duplication on the busy routes whilst the quiet routes get cut! An effective network can’t be built this way, so gaps remain which will limit modal shift. I think what opened my eyes was seeing the buses in Dublin, Ireland which were never privatised (just franchising in some areas, run by Go Ahead funnily enough). Planning is fully in the public sectors hands, so everything runs as a whole, with that, areas are equally served and the best part was how quickly they introduced multi-modal hopper fares and capping. Slowly a huge redesign is being rolled out over there and in a way it’s amazing what network comes about when it’s not 100+ individual routes but instead everything is made to work together! Outside London and Manchester, we are a very long way from anything like this and the many things a publicly owned transport system can achieve for the social good.
I have an uncle who lives in Plymouth and we sometimes come meet up in Chingford, the contrast with the buses is stark. Buses are frequent in both places, but the 2 companies in Plymouth have 2 different ticketing systems and don’t accept each other’s tickets, it’s way more expensive and confusing than London and its nonsense. Tapping and paying a flat fare valid on everything couldn’t be simpler, that’s the way forward. Make it simple to use the bus.
Aaron
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So Aaron – you want full franchising. Who’s going to deliver that? Would it be Cornwall Council who have totally squandered the money that was given to them?
The production (or lack of) of printed materials is down to them. The lack of any form of meaningful bus priority? The spending of money on ridiculous and spurious marginal routes like the Jamaica Inn service (now scrapped) or Truro to Tregony is not going to lead to meaningful modal shift is that is what the objective is!
As for the quiet routes being cut, is that likely to happen? First are reduced to a rump of services that are sustainable. The other routes are all TfC and supported anyway.
As for Plymouth, there are the Skipper tickets that allow daily, monthly and weekly interavailability for passengers in the city, and the Devon Day Ticket across the entire county. If you want a London style network in Plymouth, where is the money coming from? London can’t afford it (it’s subsidised by £1bn a year)
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Several ways to fund publicly owned buses, business levy, taxes, fares but really all 3.
My point is the network and frequency of routes needs to be based on population size and social need, something that should be determined in part by local people and councils. Why is subsidy such a bad thing?
Also publicity is essential, something I really agree with Roger on.
And you can’t tell me with a straight face the fragmented network in Plymouth makes any sense, it needs to be 1 company for a city of that size. Maybe we’d have the money for marginal routes if we cut out the privatisation, shareholders, fragmentation and daft duplication. Amazing what can be achieved when every penny goes back into the service.
Aaron
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… the new interloper … just creaming off passengers with the minimum of effort
… there are significantly widened frequencies during Monday to Friday morning and afternoon college times (eg over an hour’s gap) when the buses are committed to what they’re fundamental raison d’être is
Could the same be said of a new service featured here only a few weeks ago, in the Dartford/Swanley area? One on which, admittedly, the vehicles may be better presented but which, on the other hand, doesn’t appear to offer any unique links of its own.
Asking for a friend 😉
Malc M
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I think Go Ahead were given an easy ride here by mainly focusing on First’s multitude of liveries and old branding. Most Go Cornwall Buses look very battle scarred with dented lower panels and front panels are often held together with red gaffer tape. This is due both to constantly being forced into the hedge when passing other vehicles on country lanes and the fact that the operation is made up of a complex network of outstations with buses only occasionally visiting a proper depot
GCB also routinely run buses around Cornwall with ‘Plymouth Citybus’ fleet names including as far west as in Penzance, again due to the Cornwall fleet rotating through the main depot in Plymouth with no fixed allocations
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Very interesting. With buses showing ‘Transport for Cornwall’ lettering and the route tendering, i am just not clear why there are competition between route, so is a partly franchising regime? Such a big difference from Alex Carter’s era for First…
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On the topic of comprehensive timetables showing all operators’ buses, coaches and rail timetables, Western National, the then major operator in the south West in the early 1980s, did produce these for Cornwall, Devon and for Somerset and sold them for 25p for each county.
A few years back Cornwall issued separate books for East, Mid, and West Cornwall. There was some duplication of timetables where routes crossed over and, I believe, that one service was in the wrong book and another omitted altogether.
in Plymouth no information is currently available as Citybus has closed its office in Royal Parade because the city council decided to rip up the pavements on the whole of the north side of the road in one hit thereby closing and moving 12 bus stops. The office can be accessed through the entrance lobby to the drivers’ booking on point but it was obviously decided that it was more professional to leave passengers with no information as where to go for their bus. I, luckily, found this information from a local bakery.
There is a ‘skipper’ ticket which covers all operators in the city but it is a multi journey ticket not a basic return.
John
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some typos:
early on: “loose” (lose) and “tact” (tack)
later: “on our tail” (on our tail)
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Many thanks; now corrected.
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that last one autocorrected!
“on out tail”
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that last one autocorrected!
“on out tail”
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the curse of autocorrect. I can’t get it to print the incorrect word!
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No worries- I have the opposite problem!
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This may not help.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2dnygl0y0eo
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Dear Roger Thank you for the interesting and thorough report on buses in Cornwall From someone who enjoyed his involvement with the county it makes very sad reading and shows the good and bad of the industry No doubt this will et back to reality at some stage during the coming months Best wishes Trevor Smallwood
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TMS roadmap to Integrate GoAhead East business into Central Connect
Transport Made Simple has set out its roadmap for integration of its East of England bus network over the coming months.
It comes after the operator finalised its acquisition of Go East Anglia and operating companies Konectbus (Norfolk) and Konectbuses (Suffolk and Essex) on 1 October. The enlarged operation now runs close to 400 buses and employs over 800 staff.
In a statement titled Building a Passenger First Network, the operator writes: “In the coming months we intend on combining our existing network with Go East Anglia’s network. We believe that a joined up operation, utilising the talent, facilities, and vehicles we will gain from Go East Anglia will be able to deliver a far more reliable, sustainable and well integrated service than either company could have delivered alone.”
The company says its new network will now be developed in two phases. The first, in January 2026, will see services across Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex restructured and resource consolidated to improve reliability and address what it describes as “struggling standards of delivery” faced by Konectbus passengers in recent months. A second review is scheduled ahead of Easter 2026, following public consultation.
Transport Made Simple says it intends to “work closely with the communities and people we serve to design a network together that puts them first”, and that it will engage with schools, universities, hospitals, and elected representatives during the process.
As well as service integration it has also signalled plans to invest in modernising its newly acquired fleets and will bid for additional local government funding, including through Essex County Council’s Love Your Bus scheme.
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Another typo (sorry!) – upping the ante, not anti.
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Many thanks.
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Talking of poor information provision. I never had a reply to my email to Buses.gg in Guernsey. Following the retender and award to Stagecoach the island network map is not on the new website. This is a major holiday destination, a network map is your first port of call to understand where the buses go, BASICS!
https://buses.gg/
Peter Brown
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It is there, just not very obvious! In the footer of the website, under “Quick Links”, see ‘Download full timetable (PDF)’
Stu – West Midlands Bus Users
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Thanks Stu, I missed that as it said “timetable” not “map”.
Peter Brown
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Those of us with experience of the industry in the 90s and 00s will enjoy another tale of operator skirmishes especially in this case when they happen despite (or maybe because of) the interventions of the LTA. But seriously, two 60+ seater buses leapfrogging each other to catch 20 or so passengers is not an edifying sight and flies in the face of the efforts made to build an integrated transport system in Cornwall. As if we needed another example, this demonstrates that we can’t leave a vital public service like a bus network to the ambitions of operator Commercial Directors. Perhaps TfC should declare the county a franchise area, issue franchise contracts for the supported network (including college buses) and issue permits for the trunk commercial routes to operators delivering buses to a prescribed standard.
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Final typo, “… so to are the wheels coming off the provision of information…”?
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Thanks; final correction done!
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I agree with Aaron. Deregulation has been an expensive failure. At the bottom of the pile is the poor passenger. Those poor people Cornwall who may not be able to afford a car are stuck with a confusing and ever changing network. Of course it will need subsidy. But reduced pollution, road accidents, congestion and greater opportunities for all citizens will make up for that.
MikeC
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I agree too. People build their lives around transport provision. Where they live, work, shop, study, access healthcare. This is too important to be solely in the control of private companies, especially when you factor on all the taxpayers money in concessionary fare reimbursement, fuel duty rebates, fare cap support, ZEBRA funding, other funding pots.
There needs to be a competent, qualified overseer managing the network, with the primary objective of serving the public, and meeting related government objectives on economic growth, health outcomes, education outcomes, environmental outcomes.
The first question is to design a future new unified network to meet these objectives and cost it. Then identify all funding streams and adjust plans to fit. The funding streams need to be multi year and measurable key performance indicators (for the LTAs) agreed to monitor outcomes.
Peter Brown
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All very laudable, Peter, but who is this competent and qualified overseer? Do you mean Cornwall Council, who had to be talked out of running a promotion to increase patronage during the first Covid lockdown (I kid you not)? Or who introduced a range of new services – opening up new links etc etc but that, of course, meant that they were carrying fresh air?
There is also a supreme irony. Go Ahead are running from a selection of operating centres, mainly of which are provided by Cornwall Council via their highways arm, Cormac. Go Ahead are doing this in order to “knock out” First and that will ultimately reduce competition for the subsequent retender of the network in 2028, and so disadvantage the council. You couldn’t make it up.
BW2
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Cornwall Council as the LTA should be the competent authority, that’s how things work in more developed countries. Whether they have the competence however is another question. This is the consequence of neoliberalism, low tax, small state thinking. The state at all levels has lost the professional knowledge it used to have as most functions were privatised, leaving the state as bystanders
Urgent fact finding field trips to more competent countries are needed. Jersey could inform a shire authority how to franchise a rural bus network properly.
Peter Brown
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I would caution anyone to base any comments on passenger numbers on statistics from the Dft to think again. The numbers are clearly all over the place. A recent report showed significant rises in Slough and Surrey, not shown elsewhere. On more reliable figures I think Cornwall was 20% above pre Covid, but with the doubling of the size of the tendered network and cheap fares , at a cost of I think £32m over 3 years that does not strike me as a runaway success. Has there been an in depth report on this to enlighten LA’s and operators elsewhere as to the results, of course not because the Dft can never own up to failures, and so continues to waste money in spades?
The loss of passengers is mainly due to reductions in Concessionary passengers , not farepayers. In our operations farepayers are above Pre COVID, with concessions at 70/80%, although now finally beginning to rise.
As to the competition that Roger portrays in his excellent blog do people never learn?
First South West I think shows accumulated losses over several years of £30m. The Go Ahead operation under Plymouth Citybus also shows poor financial performance, which leads me to believe that Go Ahead went in cheap. They hoped First would then fold, but they did not.
Now Go Ahead have declared war, even if First were thinking of giving up/cutting back they cannot possibly do that now, so Go Ahead will squander a lot of money, and will lose.
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I once ordered a copy of this bus book from two different location. One from Cornwell Council & one from Plymouth in the post. I got two copies and they were each dated differently with a month of each other between them and I was surprised that they would have published the book in that short time. I like the big country map. When it came to town routes there were no individual maps of different towns. Maybe they could have had diagram on certain timetables if they couldn’t be on the larger map. But with the internet you can look up with diagram on certain travel websites or Google Maps. But I’ve always preferred publications.
I’m not sure if the current publication is for the entire winter. Most times ordering a publication for somewhere that may not be considered local they tell you to look on line and do not send.
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Roger highlights the combined timetable for the T1/T2/41 and U4/2. This is actually negative in my view. First’s timetables were actually quite well organised with none of that AI business so the ex-Tinner was a tidy 15 minute frequency, By overlaying the 20 minute frequency of the 41 with different timing points and with loads of school day/school holiday variations, it’s actually made the timetable look overly complex. The same applies to overlaying the 2 onto the U4. These new services could possibly have been displayed separately
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I wonder how this will pan out for next summer both times / service frequency / connections and ticketing both inter-availability and the fare? Also the reliability of the published service?
Back in 2013 last week of June & first week July based in Hayle over 13 days I only used the car for 3. The summer St Ives<>Newquay bus was only to run for very peak season mid-July to end of August or early September and there was either no or a very limited service to the Lizard. I covered from Lands End to Bude and Plymouth with a mix of First & Western Greyhound buses plus the railway. Mostly a Ride Cornwall ticket but a few days a bus ticket. When I looked this year some of the routes no longer operate or times do not work.
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It’s sad but there is so little pride in the operation of bus services, and in particular the appearance and presentation of the fleet, across the vast majority of operations and in particular the larger operators compared to what there used to be even five or ten years ago.
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An excellent if depressing read from a regular Cornish bus user. As for Bus Times… you say ” I was impressed all bus stop timetable departure listings noted on my travels were up to date as were the large departure listings for each route displayed outside the bus station waiting room….” I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the timetable information outside the Bus Times book (which as you know as a regular bus user you cannot get hold of) is hardly accurate. There are phantom buses on the “new” no. 2 service (this service first operated in 2021/2022 and was withdrawn to leave the U4 Penzance to Falmouth continuing its ludicrously continuously extending route times).
Take for example the 08.35 U4 Penzance towards Falmouth, followed by an advertised 08.40 Go Cornwall no. 2 service << this is the one that it turns out doesn’t and never has existed but Travelline SW, Go Bus, First Bus and Real Time will still advertise it, as will the Penzance Bus Station timetables. Then there is an 08.50 Go Bus no. 2 service. Occasionally this will overtake the U4 but apart from approaching Goldsithney differently it still follows the same route as First’s U4 including the unfathomable Praa Sands loop. Yes that is correct, three advertised (two actual) services between 8.30 and 9am but none between 7.30 and 8.30. As a commuter between Penzance and Helston this was the death knell to me, alongside the extended route times – apparently this is to please the mysterious Traffic Commissioner – I quit my job there and now ironically commute to London once a month instead.
Then there is the 16.38 no. 2 service from Helston towards Penzance. In fact it is at 16.28 but the bus stop and the real time will tell you otherwise just to add to the game. Neither First nor Go Bus seemed to have any answers for this except abject promises to fix it (8 weeks on we’re still waiting).
Cornwall Council’s Transport Coordination Unit are fed up of hearing from me and just hide behind “but First is a commercial operator” and it is unclear they understand who uses buses most on which routes. I can confirm that the Penzance – Helston – Falmouth corridor has definitely increased its fare-carrying passengers, most buses are mostly full. Averaging statistics across Cornwall will tell you very little.
Raising the issues of the bizarre First-Go competition and the abject lack of choice that seems to have resulted to our West Cornwall MP resulted in equal tone-deafness. I asked specifically about accountability and contract details but his office merely forwarded the letters I had already written to them (and got nowhere) back to them to which they provided the same replies (Cornwall Council included).
And next time you are at Penzance Bus Station do have a look at all the sights you can visit on the bus on the route map. It includes the Wayside Museum at Zennor which closed 12 years ago. A truly ‘historic’ experience…
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Its not just Go Ahead with agency staff First have loads to & drivers from other First Company’s as all there staff are leaving to join Go Ahead no wonder when First paying are 14.00 HR & Go Ahead are 16.33 , this is nothing different to what Western National & First have done to others in the past , though it does seem strange when there TFC partners .
GA have a Depot in Newquay to that does routines!
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This article aged well!
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Thanks, useful context for today’s news about First pulling out of Cornwall. The situation you described reminded me of the early days of deregulation
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Looks like Go Ahead made the right call:
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/hundreds-first-bus-jobs-risk-10661412
Peter Brown
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Perhaps First should have just painted all buses Green and called itself Western National
JBC Prestatyn
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