Seen Around

Saturday 30th August 2025

Welcome to another potpourri of miscellany not yet blogged about from the past month’s travels ….

Andover’s no longer connected to Newbury

I’d hoped to kick off this month’s round up with a report hot off the computer keyboard from yesterday about the penultimate day for route 7 between Newbury and Andover. Despite all the exciting BSIP developments being introduced all over the country next week, this route is being withdrawn (after today, Saturday) as part of Hampshire County Council’s cut backs with no replacement being provided.

Sadly a 35 minute delay into Newbury courtesy of “a problem with signals” between Paddington and Reading, “a problem with the train at Reading” and “a safety inspection of the track” between Reading and Newbury yesterday meant I arrived in Newbury just in time to see the 13:40 departure to Andover leaving the bus station.

However I can report it looked like there were five passengers on board who I’m sure will miss the route but West Berkshire is encouraging them to try its Community Connect DRT service which gains a new South Newbury zone from Monday to cover part of the former route 7.

LNER – 50 years from now

In last month’s round up I made a fleeting reference to LNER’s exhibition at King’s Cross showing what train travel could be like in 2075 promising to make further reference to it in a future blog. So here are more details of the images and narrative accompanying them.

The future will apparently see trains in 2075 lighter, stronger and more energy efficient. “Quantum modelling and 3D printed metals” will define “a new era of train design , reducing noise and pressure impact while turning heads with their sleek futuristic forms”. It sounds a far cry from the Thameslink Class 700s we’re all used to on the Brighton Main Line and I’m sure those seats pictured above would be much appreciated on LNER’s Azumas but I suspect they may impact the train’s capacity somewhat.

Autonomous travel pods (as shown above) will redefine the journey to and from the station, either single-passenger units or larger shared robo-minibuses meaning “no waiting, no guessing or planning”.

Stations will be much quieter affairs with no loudspeakers but instead we’ll all receive personalised messages on our devices with facial recognition or synced smart devises providing seamless ticketing and removing the need for barriers. There’ll be “glowing arrows to walk you to your platform” from smart glasses.

And finally trains could become “spaces for living, working and relaxing” with interiors catering for every need “with dynamic zones like Nap Pods for solitude, quiet Focus Zones for remote work, and even Workout ZOnes featuring treadmill seats…”

I’ll leave it there. One things for sure, I won’t be around in 2075 to see if these predictions are correct.

However, in other LNER news….

It’s good to see head rests have made a reappearence in First Class and this time with a softer more comfortable material and much stronger Velcro.

And on a recent journey to Wakefield I was impressed to see the bacon rolls being distributed as we passed through Finsbury Park, although the plant based sausage sandwich came a bit later but not much further north than Potters Bar, so very quick and impressive service, especially as this was coach K (not L or M closest to the galley).

And while I passed through King’s Cross I came across Network Rail’s PR team cajoling staff to look happy at holding a banner proclaiming 100 days for a future news release about some milestone or other – I’ve not idea what.

But no doubt all will be revealed on social media very soon.

London Overground’s rebrand progress

I see GTR has caught up with London Overground’s brand names for each line with Thameslink trains now displaying the status of each line separately (above) and at Victoria station details are shown for each line impacted by disruption.

Which puts TfL to shame as the in-train messages on the Underground…

.. still refer to ‘London Overground’…

… rather than using the new names. Hopefully it’ll be sorted by 2075.

Misleading departure boards

I noticed these two departure boards displayed on the southbound platform 1 at Retford station the other day which prominently display destinations of Leeds and Lincoln Central – but you need to be sure you spot they’re actually telling you the departures are from platforms 3 and 4 which entail a walk beyond the displays and down to those two platforms on the tracks running east-west under the north-south East Coast Main Line alignment.

Maybe the platform numbers could usefully be more prominent?

Waterloo water

Last month I featured the complex drinking water dispenser machine at King’s Cross which could unwittingly charge you to fill up your bottle. While passing through Waterloo I was pleased to see a free simple-to-use water dispenser … except it was in the furthest corner of the station on the upper mezzanine level with minimal footfall.

Same old excuse

I was hoping to catch the 14:05 from London Bridge to Hassocks the other day and was surprised to see it was station skipping “due to a shortage of train crew”. How can that be the reason? A driver was obviously driving it to Brighton so why would saving 10 minutes or so by station skipping save resources?

I kept an eye on the train online and when it arrived in Brighton it just sat there as normal until the next departure back to Bedford, so didn’t step up to a Cambridge bound journey which I thought might be the case. I did get a 30 minute delay repay from it, but that’s not the point.

Enfield Chase’s foliage display

There’s obviously a member of the team at Enfield Chase station with green fingers, it’s just a shame their beautiful displays are kept behind a barrier at the extreme end of the northbound platform so passengers can’t really enjoy the results of their labours.

Loading more on to bus drivers

I can understand why this loading bay is needed in Station Road, Reading but its positioning between two bus stops, and particularly right up against the bus stop for route X40…

… causes problems for drivers whenever a lorry is parked up, as it’s not possible for an X40 to park close to its departure stop…

… without its back end sticking out and delaying the many buses that pass along this road.

See above the station wall

For many months as I’ve passed through Burgess Hill on a train I’ve spotted the roofs of buses parked up alongside the southern end of the northbound platform.

It turns out to be the new base for Southern Transit – the small Sussex company specialising in school work, private hires and rail replacement with assorted smart looking buses.

No DRT riding in Rutland

Rutland Council introduced the last stage of its widespread conversion of bus routes to DRT operation from 4th August and just in case readers have been wondering why I haven’t featured a ride – it’s not for the want of trying, but as you can see from the above, the system won’t let me travel as “we couldn’t find a journey” for a straightforward Stanford to Oakham request. I gave up.

Hydrogen in Surrey

It’s good to see Metrobus has been able to get more of its hydrogen powered buses on to its routes in Surrey. I recently had a ride on the 460 in Epsom and was pleased to see a nice welcome as I boarded.

A visit to Pangbourne

As recently mentioned in a blog I took a ride on Reading Buses azure branded route 43 out to Pangbourne and Upper Basildon. It was a case of good and bad as a travel experience. As always I was impressed with Reading’s attention to detail including timetable leaflets for the route being available on board…

… bespoke cove panels showing the route…

… and where to catch the bus in key locations along the way.

The driver was also very friendly and helpful to the regular passengers using the route but outside his, and the company’s control ,was the impact of three way temporary traffic lights right in the middle of Pangbourne.

They weren’t even for roadworks but had been installed while a team unloaded and erected scaffolding at a property right on the junction. But, to make things worse the lights weren’t working properly and our Reading bound journey (already 10 minutes late from the outward delay) sat at the lights for…

… nine minutes because the phasing missed us out. The traffic management company had its own white lorry parked up on the junction with someone sitting in the cab the whole time (you can see him on the right of the bus) – a shame he wasn’t monitoring the lights like I was.

The only saving grace is these days it’s easy to check on whether a bus is running late through various websites and apps.

Meanwhile a visit to Pangbourne station didn’t disappoint and it certainly lived up to expectations created by a commentator on last month’s round-up blog when I raved about Goring and Streatley.

The ticket office and waiting area on the London bound platform…

… and the facilities on the Didcot bound platform were immaculately clean with preparations already for winter weather too.

But, best of all is the subway which has been designed and painted by a local artist…

… and looks absolutely splendid…

… brightening up what would otherwise be a dull and dark area to pass through.

I understand this is a local initiative and during my visit I was lucky to meet the member of staff who oversees the station and keeps it so beautiful and I am so sorry I’ve forgotten your name to say very well done for your great work.

TransPeak floors it

Good for High Peak for taking this novel approach to promoting its popular TransPeak bus route which I spotted in Derby bus station last week.

All new for Wellglade

Also spotted were these two new additions to the trentbarton and Kinchbus fleets within the Wellglade Group. I didn’t get a chance to try the Red Arrow this time but the Skylink bus was excellent offering great comfort.

uno what? It’s a non TfL timetable.

When writing up last week’s blog about uno’s bus changes I forgot to include the above photograph showing that company’s initiative in placing its own timetable in TfL’s bus stop frames – albeit this one at Cockfosters will no longer be needed following route 610 being cut back. You can understand why they’d do their own thing as TfL seem to have given up on displaying its own timetables.

For example, here we are outside Oakwood station at the bus stop for route 377…

… which is displaying a timetable for route 121 which stops at the other stop further back…

… and where there is a timetable for that route along with an invitation to take part in a consultation about some bus routes in Wood Green which closed on 10th December 2023.

Pity the graffiti didn’t cover that up.

Arriva’s heritage

There aren’t many now, but I did spot this original Arriva livery still in service in Derby bus station recently.

A case for Elizabeth

When boarding an eastbound Elizabeth line train at Paddington it’s always easy to spot if the train has come from Reading or Heathrow…

… which also demonstrates the benefit of longitudinal seating.

And finally for this month, perhaps not unexpectedly just to let readers know I received no response from my emails to the DVSA and Cambridgeshire & Peterborough Combined Authority about the missing journey on route 15. That’s how interested these authorities are in passenger experiences; they’re not even bothered to reply and thrir contempt for the passenger is displayed for all to see.

More miscellany next month.

Roger French

Summer blogging timetable: 06:00 TThSSu

36 thoughts on “Seen Around

  1. Certainly astonishing that the 7 and 7A are being totally withdrawn just as seemingly so many routes in the region are being enhanced. Although this largesse is somewhat thinner on the ground in Hampshire.

    I too was in the area on Thursday and the 1230 arrival into Newbury came in packed out (c30 passengers!), and the following circular 7A journey serving soon-to-be busless Burghclere carried over 15! I recall similar withdrawals at the northern end of the route some two decades ago, and clearly with the levels of use seen at odd times since, we may yet see another reincarnation..But it really does fly in the face of supposedly “protecting” essential services as promised recently.

    I think there were seven on the 1340 departure.

    Terence Uden

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    1. Some of those BSIP enhancements are really boosts to commercial products. If bus operators really want to grow their own businesses should take their own risks not always look for public money.

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    2. My elderly cousin lives in Hurstbourne Tarrant. Her husband suddenly died 18 months ago and she then used the 7 for a weekly outing and shopping trip to Andover as she can’t drive. Her adult children provide support and lifts, but work during the day, so she is now isolated until 6pm during the week. Maybe a DRT will be introduced at the Andover end, so she can book a journey using the smartphone she doesn’t own.

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  2. Rogers experience with Rutlands DRT shows how utterly useless DRT and it’s associated software is. There are supposed to be 8 breadvans serving the network, which has replaced two vehicles on timetabled services (R1 and Stamford to Oakham), but the Stamford to Uppingham has not been withdrawn after all.This must be a financial mess as they are all running free for the first 12 months.

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    1. Rutland Council is just ran by numpties, that’s the issue there. An email I saw from them, they refused to promote the councils own minibus scheduled services incase that risked them becoming overcrowded. Their solution to too many people wanting to travel, wasn’t to get bigger buses or make it so people could travel, it was to stop people finding out that the services existed.

      The mind boggles with them. Completely backwards organisation. No wonder the council fight so hard against merging with other authorities, the council staff know they would all be sacked due to incompetence.

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  3. TfL have been posting operators’ own timetable panels in their cases for at least 10 years. Same with posting council material, eg Surrey timetables.

    Steve

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  4. TfL should post other operators timetables in their stops; it is a condition of a London Service Permit ( for which a charge of £500 is levied).

    Unfortunately, even if supplied in good time prior to the service change, this doesn’t happen. Ask GoBus with their Route 3 in Orpington …. lt was well over 6 months after the route started.

    But then, pace Route 375, why should we be surprised?

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    1. The explanatory note on TfL’s site still says £150 for new LSP applications…

      Are renewals still free, or do TfL now charge for those too?

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  5. The stopping arrangements in Station Road, Reading have never been entirely satisfactory since they were introduced in April 2011 (when Station Hill was closed off for the rebuilding of Reading Station) and have been tweaked a number of times over the years.

    Julian Walker

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  6. As you passed through Waterloo Roger did you use the facilities? I mention this as the ‘state of the art’ toilets are already falling apart. Out of 12 cubicles I recently counted 5 with broken/missing doors. Didn’t inspect the Ladies ! Some of the urinals are often covered over too with ‘sorry I’m not in service ‘. Waterloo is busy at weekends now so I would have thought maintenance would have been a priority for NR. They keep asking you how we did . Obviously not very well.

    Martin W

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  7. Not just yesterday, it’s as bad this morning on GWR. I keep reading self congratulatory articles in the rail press about Operation Brunel, yet this morning alone out of Paddington there are cancellations due to an obstruction on the track, signalling problems, more trains than normal needing maintenance and train crew being delayed. This included the 09.48 to Wales being altered not to stop anywhere between Paddington and Cardiff, rendering it virtually useless and no doubt making the 10.48 overcrowded

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  8. Southern Transit used to run a scheduled service between Horsham and Shoreham. Sadly this was withdrawn during COVID never to return. https://www.southerntransit.co.uk/route-3/

    They also ran a great event (27/05/19) where they put on a frequent service on that route using various vehicles including the one with the transparent roof and a Routemaster. Perhaps they’re the vehicles shown in your photo. Some of my family still remember the jolly nature of that day with people flagging down the Routemaster in seemingly the middle of the day and people boarding with fish and chips at Shoreham.

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  9. It’s almost like u need a Satnav
    for public transport users to
    help some folk now, let alone in
    50 years time.

    Did my good deed for the day
    at Euston by assisting
    customer looking at their
    phone at top of escalator to
    southbound Victoria/Northern
    Iines, l’m looking for platform
    13 to Coventry!

    I said follow the Way Out signs
    upstairs to the main line
    station…… oh, its a different
    station. The screen of her
    phone stated Euston platform
    13 with QR code, not
    mentioning the ultimate
    destination of the train.

    TfL actually now have a
    homemade sign in Booking
    Hall at top of escalator
    directing folk towards West
    Coast main line destinations.

    Customer said “Thank you very
    much”.

    If the faceless individuals who
    create these futuristic visions
    went out in the real world and
    discovered the challenge of
    just travelling by public
    transport, then gave feedback to equally faceless influential individuals to improve the travellers lot their time would be better spent.

    John Nicholas

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  10. On thr subject of no reply and lack of interest. I was looking at the new Buses.gg website launched when Stagecoach took over the franchise. I noticed the former excellent network map was missing, really bad as this is a tourist destination. I emailed them via the contact us pointing this out. No reply. The operation is managed by Stagecoach South West based in Exeter. Obviously too far away to manage effectively.

    Fortunately Jersey’s Liberty Bus website still has its excellent map.

    Peter Brown

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  11. Regarding the skipping of station stops, I noticed this happening on the Elizabeth Line recently, when an Abbey Wood to Reading service missed scheduled stops at both Southall and Burnham (my local station). I looked at the Real-time Trains website to see if I could identify why, only to see arrival of that train in Reading was 2 minutes early(ie the same 2 minutes scheduled for those missed stops). This is unacceptable, particularly as stations west of Maidenhead only have a 30 minutes interval service. So, does anyone know who decides to take this action, why it is done to apparently ‘on time’ trains, and how the unfortunate ‘missed’ stations are decided?

    Kevin Fuller

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  12. LNER’s version of the future looks lonely and isolating to me. How about less technology, better management and keeping to the basics? Older trains like the Intercity 225 are very comfortable even in standard class, how did we forget how to build things with real materials and to be comfortable? I’d say also bring back a proper restaurant car for Intercity routes. And LNER, all this tech is a distraction whilst they insist on the bogus fares trial. You know what would actually be simple, distance based fares!

    I’ll be 80 in 2075, all I want to see different to now, other than a far more functional country, is far more space exploration, maybe even a regular Moon base!

    Also lovely artwork in the subway in Pangbourne. Waltham Cross near me, has recently decorated its underpasses with paintings on the walls celebrating the history and Olympic legacy of the town. It’s much better than before, really brightens up the place!

    Aaron

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    1. I agree. My immediate thought was how long will a train with a capacity of say 600, as a 9 car Azuma is now, need to be?

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  13. This business of Southern Rail missing stops needs calling out. The London Victoria – Littlehampton trains frequently arrive at Hove only a few minutes late, but are then announced as non-stop, causing most of the ppl on the 12 car train to get off and cram into the following 4 car stopping service already busy with passengers from Brighton. It is so un-necessary.

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  14. Ref the Pangbourne temp traffic lights: Even in a low-productivity economy like ours, the personnel who sit in their vans all day (ostensibly looking after the temp lights) are, I feel, a complete waste of space. I can’t help thinking that in 30 years time they’ll all have dementia, having fried their brains with at least 8 hours of continuous screen time every day. JP, Cheltenham.

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  15. Temp lights rely to some extent on sensors – if a vehicle has gone forward of the sensing point – or is too far back – it wont always register and the box of tricks things the road is empty. OR there may be a pedestrian push button phase that might re jig road sequencing

    JBC Prestatyn

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  16. I took a last ride on the 7 from Andover to Newbury and back yesterday. The Solo bus was almost full on the 11.45 journey from Andover to Newbury and then about 2/3 full on the 15.45 journey from Newbury to Andover although emptied a bit as we were coming out of Newbury.

    Some of the numbers were due to people taking a last ride as there was discussion on the bus about this but it is obvious this is going to have an impact on people without a car. I only tend to use the route a few times a year but it has always been fairly busy when I’ve used it.

    I know people who use the route between Andover and Enham Alamein (village just outside of Andover) who will be affected because there is now no bus service there. There is the Connect on Demand service introduced earlier this year which can go out to there and at the moment you can use either an app or call a telephone number to book but a lot of older people either don’t have a smartphone or don’t want to have to phone up to book transport.

    It was a useful link as otherwise Newbury is difficult to get to via public transport.

    Tony G

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  17. The planting at Enfield Chase Station is undertaken by a group of volunteers from The Enfield Society. The container planting at the staircase end of Platform 2 is designated a non public area thus the chain across the entry.

    The Society enters a borough wide competition, – “Enfield in Bloom” annually. The entry is under best kept public building. For the second year in succession we received a Gold award for our effort.

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  18. Stanford to Oakham might be tricky.

    the website implies there is a Stamford to Oakham fixed bus route – odd journey on the CallConnect complimenting another service – no weblink to that service

    JBC Prestatyn

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  19. It puzzles me why Thameslink always refer to “traincrew” when the only person specifically required for the train to run is a driver – so why not just say “a shortage of drivers”? It seems they do not have enough drivers to cover this peak holiday period (and I don’t see any effort to recruit more of them), but Southern appear not to suffer from the same problem.

    Steven Saunders

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    1. The reasons are fixed and nationwide so not specific to one particular TOC. I knew once it was announced a train was delayed due to “waiting for the guard” so when the guard did turn up, they were assaulted by an angry customer. That is why they keep it vague these days!

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    2. Could the reason for that London to Brighton train not stopping at those five stations have been

      a) lack of driver knowledge for those 5 stations?

      b) so the driver could have their allowed break time but then step up to drive an earlier departure, which fits in with ‘shortage of train crew’?

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  20. We received a visit from the DVSA the other day, bringing a letter addressed to us from the very same DVSA written the previous day. It was regarding a complaint made to them that one of our buses had failed to turn up at a stop where a customer was waiting. Unfortunately the complaint was true – our driver had taken the wrong road, which missed a couple of stops. We know this because the customer had also emailed us directly at the time, and we had investigated and replied. However the customer had also chosen (as was his right) to contact DVSA (though he also claimed he’d had no response from us, which was a bit naughty!). However, the point of this tale is that the incident was in November 2024. And the customer had contacted DVSA in November 2024. Their investigation letter asking us what had happened was last week. Last week was, yes, the end of August 2025. There were also two other incidents we were asked to answer for at the same time (in these two cases we weren’t at fault – one was a police road closure and one severely late running after the bus had left its departure stop on time). These latter two incidents were March 2025 and May 2025. So you may be waiting some time yet for a response Roger……

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  21. Service 7 Newbury – Andover is not a rail replacement service. It is not shown in the Wilts and Dorset 1929 timetable but by July 1933 it is shown as service 12 running every 2 hours, increasing to virtually hourly on Thursdays,Fridays and Saturdays.

    1/9d through fare, 2/9d return

    Someone with more knowledge will know but it looks like it was acquired from another operator between those two dates

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  22. The planting at Enfield Chase station is undertaken by a group from The Enfield Society, a borough wide civic amenity society. Their aim is to enhance and conserve the civic and natural environment. The planting at the North end of the Northbound Platform is designated a non public area thus the chain preventing access.

    The Society enter the annual “Enfield in Bloom” competition and have received a Gold award for the last two years for their efforts at Enfield Chase.

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  23. I remember the Andover – Newbury bus being the 80 which ran through from Salisbury alongside the 76 Salisbury – Andover – Basingstoke.

    Ian McNeil

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  24. Re London Overground, I can never understand when I hear messages on the Underground that London Overground is part suspended between Euston and Watford Junction. I am always intrigued to know which part that might be. We are never ever told!

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  25. In pre 1983 Hants & Dorset days, the 280 was a Salisbury – Andover – Newbury service running every two hours. There was local Enham Alamein to Andover traffic but not a lot on the A343 north of Enham. Most of the local traffic in Berkshire subsequently came from diverting buses to serve communities to the east and west of the A343 that had been abandoned by Alder Valley. Another case of a bus service crossing a council boundary failing to work together to protect the cross – boundary passenger traffic.

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