Tuesday 29th July 2025
July’s month end round up is over brimming with items not previously blogged about so I’m splitting it into two bites with today’s installment covering a few items ‘seen around’ London and Thursday’s post will be devoted to matters spotted outside London.
Welcome to an extended route 241

I got round to taking a ride on the recently extended route 241 from Stratford City Bus Station through the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park to Here East earlier this month.

Introduced on 14th June, this extension carves out new bus territory in the former Olympic Park for the London bus map (if TfL could be bothered to produce one) with a ten minute somewhat tortuous route…

… taking in the London Aquatics Centre, a skate park, new premises being finished for the BBC, Sadlers Wells and the Victoria & Albert Storehouse…

… and a whole host of flats yet to be built.

Buses terminate outside Here East which still seems to be contracting its own bespoke buses to ferry staff and visitors to and from central Stratford. At least it was, when I took a ride earlier this month.

According to its website, Here East “is owned by clients of Delancey, a specialist real estate investment advisory company and innovators, disruptors, visionaries and like-minded people are invited to share – and participate – in the making of game-changing innovations.” The complex is also served by bus route 388.

My sample ride on the newly extended 12 minute frequency route 241 (10 minutes in peaks) saw a handful of passengers ride out from Stratford bus station to various stops on the extension but only one passenger return. But it’s early days and I’m sure one day, in a few years time, the extra three buses now needed to run route 241 will be justified.
Hopefully by then Stratford’s bus station’s bus stops will have been updated to show the new destination…

… and the departure listings by bus stop updated.

But at least the spider map had been updated.

Welcome to Route 700

Down in Merton a new temporary bus route has been added to the London bus map (if TfL could be bothered to produce one). Route 700 takes passengers who normally use route 200 between the Phipps Bridge residential estate near Mitcham to Colliers Wood for the Northern line Underground station.

A smart looking brand new Go-Ahead London electric bus (a Wright StreetDeck Electroliner EV) is providing a temporary shuttle service on a daytime half hourly frequency (20 minutely in the peaks – ignore what it says on the incorrect notice on bus stops) keeping residents on the move while Thames Water and Southern Gas coordinate works which have severed the normal route taken by buses through Lower Green West approaching Mitcham on route 200 between Raynes Park, Colliers Wood and Mitcham, necessitating a diversion along Western Road which by-passes the Phipps Bridge area.

It’s good to see TfL’s bus stop plate contractor has been out fixing 700 plates to all the bus stops and the timetable case contractor has installed a notice about the 700’s frequency at all the bus stops, albeit with incorrect details as already highlighted.

I took a ride on the route being joined at the front of the upper deck by a young lad recording the 14 minute circuit through Phipps Bridge and back by holding his smartphone against the front window for the whole time which made me realise we’ve come a long way from the days when I’d take a well worn AtoZ street map book with me on expeditions of this kind, 60 or so years ago.

It’s good to see a well used temporary bus route proving its worth and just a shame in so many towns and rural areas outside London utility companies take no interest in facilitating replacement buses for temporary arrangements. I assume in this case they are providing some funding. Here’s a map to explain what’s happening until “mid September”.

Where are the renamed lines?

I thought the whole idea of naming each of the Overground lines was to make it easier to let passengers know how to navigate the system and pass on news of disruption in a concise way.

Yet TfL’s own trains on the Elizabeth Line either still refer just to ‘Overground’ on the next station displays or ignore it completely when showing status updates.

Eyesight test at LST

Maybe it’s just my aging eye sight but the other day when passing through Liverpool Street it hit me just how hard the departure board is to read with relatively small print compared to, for example, the newly reinstated board at Euston.
These are NOT toilets you see before you

This month’s toilet news features Stratford where you could be fooled into thinking there were toilets at the station by observing the signs on the door … to the, ahem, toilets. But the notice outside tells you otherwise. Meanwhile spot the door for the accessible toilet.

In other news, the toilets at Farringdon (platform 4) are now back open again, so hurrah for that.
Kingston’s not on the level

It’s unusual to see one of these signs in the middle of a platform. But you can at Kingston.

Zone 6 Boundary issues

Sometimes it’s cheaper for me to buy a one-day Travelcard from my local station, Hassocks, and then a separate single or return from the boundary of Zone 6 to whichever station I’m heading to, eg Letchworth Garden City.
It works out cheaper than buying a return from Hassocks to Letchworth Garden City. And I have the flexibility of travelling all over London for the day. The problem is, when the ticket office is closed, despite what Southern say, their TVM’s won’t allow you to buy a ticket from the Zone 6 Boundary to another destination, such as Letchworth.
I was told by Southern’s Customer Relations team when I complained to enter ‘Boundary Zone 6’ as the origin…

… they obviously haven’t tried doing that lately, as it doesn’t exist. And it’s no good entering Hadley Wood (as the last station within Zone 6) as (a) I’d need to get a train that stops there rather than a fast one that doesn’t and (b) it’s more expensive than from the Boundary. Just another facet of our wonderful railway ticketing.
Hammersmith Bridge is back open for buses
It’s been over five years since Hammersmith Bridge had to be closed to buses but thanks to blog reader Peter who spotted TfL have quietly announced it’s back open again with all six pre-closure bus routes running as normal again linking north and south of the River … or at least that’s what the Spider Map posted at Barnes Bridge station advises.

And it must be true as the adjacent poster tells us Great British Railways is “Coming soon”.

Luggage must be safely stowed
Long distance travel by train is characterised by luggage these days, and more and more of it. I reckon this passenger I spotted at St Pancras the other day had more than his fair share though.

It was 55 years ago this summer – a personal reminisce

This summer marks 55 years since I took up my very first taste of proper paid work (aside from a paper round) in the form of an eight week summer holiday fill in job with London Transport as a Temporary Clerical Assistant. I was aged just 16 and was based in the Staff Superintendent (Buses) office at the hallowed 55 Broadway offices above St James’s Park Underground Station.
I couldn’t believe how lucky I was to be working for LT, as it was known in those days, and enjoying having a staff travel pass giving free rides on all London’s buses and Underground – and getting paid.
But, goodness, how times have changed. I found my appointment letter the other day and realised I got paid the princely sum of £9.04 a week (£470 pa) which works out at just £1.80 a day. You can’t even buy a latte for that these days. But I loved every minute and it was great experience followed in subsequent summers by stints as a bus conductor at Palmers Green bus garage during the time when the wonderful Ken Blacker was the Garage Manager.

Little did I know then, what I know now, 55 years later. Older and wiser. Including the fact £1 in 1970 is worth around £20 today.
More Seen Around from outside London on Thursday.
Roger French
Summer blogging timetable: 06:00 TThSSu

Not sure the snark about the 700 missing from the map is deserved. Even at the height of LT, I doubt a route running for only eight weeks would have made it onto the map.
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What a pointless poster for (Great) British Railways. The new organisation will no doubt waste vast amounts of money on pointless publicity and rebranding.
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But no doubt only a fraction of what has been wasted on pointless re-branding and publicity over the past 30 years of the fragmented railway.
Steve
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Money will be wasted anyway, irrespective of “private sector”, “quasi public private sector” as now and “honest public sector” as seems to be the plan.
BR was relatively efficient and market oriented in at least its later years, I believe. But modern day public sector incentives, executive salaries that ape the private sector and the UK’s increasing incapacity to govern mean that the new world will likely be little better than now. Despite the hype. And a few people will still get rich on the back of it, albeit in different and equally undesirable ways.
Stephen
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the toilets at Stratford are grim at the best of times, so them being closed is probably a blessing.
I think one of the various station development plans includes new loos – hopefully they can bring them up to the standard of Ealing Broadway, as an example.
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At Stratford Bus Station (north one) the Stops map was for the South one. Indeed the whole publicity totally confusing there
The Toliets at Canary Wharf station are closed There are very good facilities on the same level though in the shopping arcade area when that is open and accessible (do the LU toilets open when shops etc shut ?)
The 700 as I previously noted wasnt doing the run north via phipps bridge for the first day and a half – was this a route learn error or contractor posting a forward arrow along Church Road on the diversion board mounted to a lamp post ? The 700 stopping at the 470 stand also makes interchange to station or other buses difficult as the stand alighting is adjacent to uneven paving (and changing buses at runnymede rarely gets a kerbside exit correct
The Mitcham utility works are also sending northbounds from Bishopsford Road around via The Canons as a scenic tour
Worth taking a look in due course at the Streatham High Road “improvement works”
the Superloop thamesmead bus to come at lower frequency and further away bus stops than the route it replaces might need a blog or blogett
The office job still doesnt seem to pay present min wage if it works out about £5.18 an hour in present money using the conversion rate given. And how did you get 8 weeks hols – I only got 6 (and two of them needed for family holiday and two for volunteering at a kids holiday club left 2 weeks for catch up academic revision and buying new school clothes etc .
JBC Prestatyn
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Re: school holidays – the year I took my O-levels, I took the last exam at the end of June and didn’t go back to school until starting 6th Form in the September.
Julian Walker
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I found the toilets at Canary Wharf after what seemed a very long trek to the far end of the shopping centre.
Ian McNeil
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Running the northbound diversion of Route 280 through the Mitcham area reminded me of the early part of my motorcycle era. The diversion is: Cricket Green, Madeira Road, Commonside West and Upper Green East. As a Crystal Palace FC supporter living in Hersham I would explore all the possible road routes on my motorcycle. One day this entailed doing a right turn out of Madeira Road on to the southern end of Commonside West aiming for my destination – Selhurst Park. Before the road signals were installed this was a dangerous manoeuvre as Blue Houses Bridge over the railway is effectively a blind summit for drivers heading north. I did do a right turn before the road signals were installed but steered clear until I had seen that they had been put in during a westbound drive home from a match.
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Roger,Firstly, I very much enjoy your blogs.I agree with you entirely about the destination displays at Liverpool Street, which I use regularly as it is my into London station.An additional problem is when the sun is shining it reflects badly off the orange coloured lettering. Similarly with those above each platform.No doubt they were designed by those who never travel by train. My theory in this respect also extends to the designers of bus and train interiors who never travel by public transport!Barry Coppock
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The displays at Euston may be bigger and brighter than at Liverpool Street but they are still not very helpful.
They give so little notice of which platform your train will leave from that those in the know rely on Real Time Trains to get a seat.
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And try spotting the toilets at Stratford even when they ARE open! No signage to them from elsewhere on the station, and the sign outside them (shown in your photo) is hidden by a stairway and is only visible when you’re right on top of it. Graham L.
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The toilet issue on TfL really is quite disgraceful when compared with National Rail. To close toilets at Canary Wharf when Elizabeth line trains are not fitted with such refinements is a double disgrace. As with Stratford, the alternatives are a very long walk.
Memories invoked of my first job with London Transport commencing 5th October 1959 @ £324pa or £6.23 a week. Riches indeed as my previous job in a Stationers was at just £182 pa (and they deducted tax each week!). But then my ANNUAL season ticket from Hayes (Kent) to London at Priv. rate was just £11, so yes, all relative.
Terence Uden
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Re the boundary zone 6, you don’t search for it. It’s one of the default options that appear immediately on the right when you click on “tickets from another station”.
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Thanks ever so much for that – now seen it – so sorted!
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Re Canary Wharf Toilets – I meant Jubillee Line ( featured when opened on YT by a young Geoff Marshall I think ) Not checked the EL station but with retail provision in the area its not too bad . Toilets are expected to be arriving at Morden after much discussion with Merton Council and TfL
For a station that has nearly got departures right Victoria has gone full OLED or whatever display with Colour Coding of services White on Blue for South Eastern , White of Red for Gatwick Express and White on Green for Southern. I assume charters and specials would be White on Black. Only problem is with early closing of doors that the screens shuffle up and you cannot always remember the actual one you wanted platformwise for Clapham Junction or Balham as next actual departure
JBC Prestatyn
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It’s good to see that the end date for the route 200 diversion is suitably vague, reflecting the realities of this type of road closure and meaning the notices won’t suddenly need to be updated or left out with incorrect info.
Stephen H
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National Rail stations are good hunting ground for years-out-of-date Spider maps. There’s one in the side passage to Buckingham Palace Road from the Southern side of Victoria. I suspect these locations have fallen off the ‘circuit’ for updates and unless intervention from TfL or Network Rail (does anyone care?) they will remain frozen in time.
Stephen H
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Another splendid edition of ‘Bus and Train Gripes’. I do have a suspicion there is more than one RF, after all, a week isn’t long enough for any one person to cover the ground that Roger does. Fascinating stuff though.
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I sometimes have difficulty buying PlusBus add-ons at ticket machines. Thankfully I’ve discovered that you can buy them separately, even on-train as I discovered recently thanks to a very helpful Southeastern conductor. And what’s more you can get railcard discounts, meaning an absolute bargain of travel all day in a town for less than the cost of one full price single fare.
Stephen H
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I mean buy separately at ticket offfices, and on train
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I also worked for L.T at 55 Broadway, back in the early 80s, in its then Department Of Risk Management! I don’t think it exists anymore! Also had a second spell with L.T a few years later at Ashfield House, by West Kensington station.
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I think I must have had the dullest London Transport holiday job – proofreading bus timetables. But a staff pass giving priv travel on BR after four weeks was wonderful.
Pedantic of Purley
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If all those suitcases at St Pancras belong to the one man, then he’s a lot of excess luggage to pay for.
The luggage allowance per the National Rail Conditions of Carriage is two large items and one small, so all the rest are chargeable (historically as Accompanied Animals and Articles at 50% of the relevant single fare, maximum £5 per item) although I have no idea what the current charges are.
Not that I expect the gateline staff (whether agency or TOC employees) would have been taught about that.
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The London Bus Map note Roger made was the fact that no network wide map is provided these days, though looking at Mike Harris’s it would be even more cluttered than it was in the 1970s with more routes in the suburbs. I dont think “Temporary” Routes ever appeared on a standard map – unlike long term alterations to tube services or stations on the tube map ? – Perhaps the D series Docklands ones in advance of the DLR an exception on the bus map ?
The little map though – both Roger’s line drawing which pedantically should have an anti clockwise red arrow for the turn at colliers wood ( to get to Phipps Bridge the bus launches to the North as the 470 does to get to Morden before navigation the enforced loop to get back to Christchurch Road heading south. For the small yellow map the narrative re Christchurch Road stops is no incorrect but the line diagrams imply the 200 and 700 serve the stops consecutively – which they dont in one direction- the Christchurch one should be southbound only I dont know how the line diagram could be split to show that. and in theory interchange possible at the Runnymede stop for north bound and south bound services
Some folk are suggesting that the 700 should remain with a connection from Mitcham onto Sutton (via 280) or Croydon (via 264) as additionall connectivity to . from Colliers Wood
JBC Prestatyn
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At least, the new route that shouldn’t have happened fairly often does possible to keep resurfacing under 334 previously been no link from Colliers Wood Station – Thornton Heath wasn’t such a huge idea. Is that some sort of via Brigstock Road, Thornton Heath Pond, London Road, Northborough Road, Manor Road, Commonside East and Western Road benefits such as passengers. Yes, a large component removal using Mitcham, Cricketers bus stand seems to fail in 2018 whilst there’s opportunity for Lower Green West are made.
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And despite this South London was just some unfortunate incident where its lease extended too so they’ve clearly got no surveillance capabilities ahead of Raynes Park – Brixton Hill, Christchurch Road supporting routes 690/G1, 493, 200 or 152 which TfL had already made several rather not linking Merton’s very minor issues that still arise. Even former 118 were withdrawn from Brixton allowing the 59 to Clapham Park. Options: New Route 168: Raynes Park – Brixton Hill, Christchurch Road via Poynders Road, Nightingale Lane, Bellevue Road, Burntwood Lane, Garratt Lane, Plough Lane, Haydons Road, Merton High Street and Kingston Road.
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In Cambridge area the Tiger routes appears to be struggling financially, The £2 fare cap has bow been terminated early
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You could have taken my bus fare 50 plus years ago as back in 1970 I was age 15 and living in Palmers Green! Now in Winchmore Hill.
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TFL are planning to withdraw the 283
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Nearly a decade after you Roger I too began my career at 55 Broadway in 1979 as a Clerical Assistant when just still 16 after the winter of discontent.
1970s inflation meant remuneration had more than doubled in a decade. There was a closed shop meaning all staff had to join a trade union.
I vividly remember lunchtime on my first day clutching my staff pass to travel free on the recently opened Jubilee line extension to Charing Cross.
Like you it was only supposed to be a temporary job until I was old enough to go out in the real world of bus operation.
Little did I realise that eight years later I would still be part of an organisation whose cultures including mine would be transformed forever by the Kings Cross fire.
John Nicholas
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I can well imagine the thrill that those who worked for LT got when issued with their Staff Pass. I felt the same when the foreign passport requirement for Go As You Please tickets was lifted in March 1972. I was very well prepared to pay £2.90 for four days or £3.80 for seven and the crucial issue here is that there was no morning peak restriction – one could use it from the start of traffic. One free trip on the Round London Sightseeing Tour was included too with an Inspector punching one’s ticket using his pencil as one boarded! Living in Hersham, it was a very steep learning curve for the Kingston Garage drivers to mount: having me board a bus for Kingston at around 0715 on the strength of my ticket. Not a single Kingston Garage driver had seen one before.
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I know what you mean about seperate tickets, it’s a couple of quid cheaper to purchase a return from Benfleet (my local) to Upminster, then a zone 1-6 day travelcard, based from Upminster, thank goodness for online purchasing !
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Living in Preston Park, I also often travel to points the other side of the London Travelcard ones. I would like to re-assure/correct Roger on this one point: –
I was told by Southern’s Customer Relations team when I complained to enter ‘Boundary Zone 6’ as the origin…
… they obviously haven’t tried doing that lately, as it doesn’t exist. And it’s no good entering Hadley Wood (as the last station within Zone 6) as (a) I’d need to get a train that stops there rather than a fast one that doesn’t.
So long as you are travelling within the former Network South East area you DO NOT need to use a train that stops @ Hadley Wood or any other station- you can use all trains swithin former NSE. Outside former NSE – you are restricted to stations where trains stop when trying to do “split-ticketing”.
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