24 hours in Penzance: Part 1

Thursday 19th June 2025

I enjoyed a fleeting visit to the far south west corner of Cornwall at the beginning of this week to check out a few developments in the county’s bus network.

Here’s the first of a couple of posts about those travels. (Part 2 follows on Saturday).

First up when I arrived, was a trip to the lovely historic fishing village of Mousehole trying out First’s smart, relatively new, Mercedes Sprinter minibuses which display three colour variations of a bespoke livery for the route.

Introduced in 2023 the minibuses come with 20 seats (including three tip-ups in the wheelchair area) with the inevitable rather restricted leg room and the buses just about coping at busy times on this popular route.

The famous tight turn at the junction of Parade Hill and Commercial Road on the narrow approach road into the harbour at Mousehole has restricted the size of bus operated on this route for generations making it all the more distinctive.

It’s one of Cornwall’s most idyllic terminal points with the bus stand right alongside the small harbour.

First operates a 20 minute daytime frequency (45 minutely with one bus in evenings) with each of the three buses rounding in an hour, including a generous 19 minutes stand time, although challenging driving conditions on Cornwall’s narrow roads can soon eat into that.

I was intending to catch a late afternoon departure (eg 17:00) from Penzance and enjoy an evening meal in one of the small restaurants in the village but my ‘disruption antenna’ was telling me something wasn’t right seeing two of the three minibuses laying over for a considerable time in Penzance bus station.

I also overheard a waiting passenger say something to a friend about a half hourly service operating due to a road closure, so began searching online for some information. Unfortunately my smartphone only had ‘one bar’ for a signal and there’s no WiFi in the bus station, so it wasn’t easy.

My tortuously slow browsing only found First’s and Go Cornwall/Transport for Cornwall’s websites displaying the normal timetable under route M6 but I did see a reference to a road closure all this week on the latter and advising, rather strangely, “we will be operating a timetable for the duration of this closure” whatever that means…

…. and ambiguously continuing to display the normal timetable which was patently not being operated. It added “we will be unable to serve stops between Penzance War Memorial and The Old Coastguard Hotel” but being a tourist, not knowing where either of those are located, the information was less than helpful.

I looked around the bus station but there was no updated information posted although there is a rather impressive full size poster on display showing every departure time of every service…

… even though in the case of the M6 it was wrong for this week.

With a growing number of waiting passengers and no movement from the bus stand I was thinking of abandoning the idea when at 17:08 a driver finally appeared and drove one of the two buses over to stand A where a full load boarded and we set off at 17:16…

…picking up more passengers in the High Street eventually heading out of town with 26 squeezed on board.

The road closure was on the seafront road (Cliff Road) between Newlyn and Mousehole necessitating a diversion via Sheffield and Paul but the majority of passengers had alighted as we left Penzance, mostly in the Alverton area.

On arrival into Mousehole I asked the driver if he had a copy of the temporary timetable and he said he thought it was online but he kindly let me take a photo of his hand written listing and I noticed the last departure was shown as early as 18:57.

I thought that was odd, with the normal evening service as late as 23:05 seemingly abandoned…

… so checked the bus stop at the terminus which wasn’t very helpful either, still showing the normal times, although it did have a Post-It pointing to “NOTE CHANGE TO BUS ROUTE BELOW”..

.. referring to the diversion, but no mention of a revised timetable.

I decided not to risk waiting for a later departure than 18:57 and planned to take that back into Penzance.

When the bus arrived into Mousehole I asked that driver if he had a temporary timetable available and he again kindly lent me his copy to take a photo from and this time it was a typed version and there was indeed an evening service – the other driver must have just given me sheet one of two!

The diversion back into town went direct from Paul rather than via Sheffield which saved a bit of time, but the real issue with the diversion is on Chywoone Hill in Newlyn especially at busy times.

This section of road is used by double deck buses on First’s route 1/1A to and from Lands End.

Its steep gradient, corners, narrow width and parked vehicles make it notorious at the best of times but with the closure of Cliff Road and all traffic diverted on to it, the challenging conditions were a whole lot worse.

These are views from the top deck of a bus on route 1A on another journey I took on Tuesday morning when we followed a bus on the M6.

It’s amazing how many motorists find reversing a challenge; throw in a steep hill and it’s a disaster.

Coming back down the hill later that morning was even worse.

Quite why Cornwall Council hasn’t restricted parking along more of the road during this diversion is beyond me. Look at this car parked to cause maximum disruption.

Once back in Penzance I took advantage of a better mobile signal and WiFi to search the First Bus website for information.

Under “News and service updates” I found nothing under “Service Updates” on the first page but if you click on the “More Updates” tag…

.. you get a listing of “Current Issues”…

…which includes a reference to “M6 Cliff Road, Penzance”, and if you click on that…

… you get confirmation of the diversion, and at last, a copy of the temporary timetable. What a fool I was not to spot that on Monday afternoon while waiting for the bus with no effective mobile signal. Interestingly, as a visitor I could well have used First’s online Journey Planner.

Here it is as I tried it when back at home and writing this blog yesterday morning for a journey to Mousehole…

… giving me the wrong times (the normal 20 minute frequency) and no mention of the diversion or temporary timetable. Useless.

It’s also a shame the temporary timetable wasn’t posted at bus stops along the route. Many of the passengers complaining about the lack of information on that busy journey on Monday would have appreciated that, as indeed would I have done too.

Inside the bus, which incidentally was showing the wrong time on its clock – which I always think gives such a poor impression of a bus company, if it can’t even show the correct time on its own vehicles…

… there was a monitor screen behind the driver which could easily have been used to show details of the diversion and reference the temporary timetable. What’s the point of having such screens if all they’re going to show is gobbledygook, as the ones on these buses were?

I knocked up the image from OpenStreetMaps outlining the diversion, shown earlier in this blog, in ten minutes. Why couldn’t something like that have been done and posted at bus stops and inside buses?

This classically demonstrates the problem of remote management and a lack of necessary resources to keep on top of the detail at bus stop level.

However, what is impressive, as it always is, is the amazing skill of the bus drivers in almost impossible traffic conditions.

And, of course, Mousehole is as impressive as always and a great place to visit.

In Part 2 of this post on Saturday, I’ll be taking a closed top bus tour on the former open top bus routes to and from Lands End around the Cornish coast to compare and contrast. And you might be surprised at my conclusions.

Roger French

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66 thoughts on “24 hours in Penzance: Part 1

  1. The lack of decent, readily accessible information is astounding. First might as well have a website with on the first page a large banner ‘Don’t bother to try and travel by our buses – we’re hopeless’.

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    1. Poor timetable update information and maps is the norm as is the fact that if there are temporary timetables the journey planner will not reflect it and nor will the so called real time displays

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  2. Regarding the monitor screen “showing gobbledygook”, it normally shows either next stop information or general notices and updates, can’t remember exactly now as it was last year I last travelled on the Mousehole (as it was known then).

    Whats displaying there is some bootup/diagnostic info, I saw the exact same thing the other week on a brand new NX West Midlands electric bus. These new next-stop announcements don’t seem very reliable as half the time they never seem to work properly!

    Stu – West Midlands Bus Users

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  3. ’Inept’ is the only suitable moniker for First. But I am sure the CEO is paid quite well.

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    1. The CEO is a guy called Graham Sutherland. His remuneration will total £1.4m in the current year comprising £567k basic salary plus £800k bonus for meeting ‘diversity’ targets. No mention of whether he has any experience of running buses & trains but he does have an excellent track record for delivering value to shareholders. What more could you possibly want?!

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      1. Graham Sutherland’s experience

        • Chief Executive Officer FirstGroup plc, May 2022 – Present
        • Chief Executive Officer KCOM, 2018 – 2020
        • Chief Executive Officer, BT Business & Public Sector, 2016 – 2018
        • Chief Executive Officer, BT Business, 2011 – 2016
        • Chief Executive Officer, BT Ireland, 2010 – 2011
        • Chief Financial Officer, BT Ireland, 2006 – 2010
        • Director, Finance & General Accounting Flexjet (Bombardier Aeropsace), 1999 – 2000
        • Managing Director, Maydown Precision Engineering Limited (Bombardier Aeropsace), 1997 – 1999
        • Finance Director, Alex M Hamilton, 1992 – 1997
          Various Finance roles at BAT plc and ICI plc, 1985 – 1991

        Any thoughts, anyone?

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  4. I won’t comment on all the failures in informing customers of what to do during a diversion. I will comment on one aspect: trying to tell customers of sections of route which will not be served for the duration. Customers don’t use routes they use stops! These are the points at which customers access the service. It follows that the information they require is twofold:
    1. Which stops are suspended.
    2. Which stops to use, if any, as an alternative, split by route if necessary.
    Anything else is confusing.

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    1. Cardiff Bus are good at this, at least online.

      For instance (this is a simple one, others are more complex):

      ⚠️Dame Shirley Bassey Way Road Closure
      📅Saturday 21st June from 06:00 until 16:00
      🚌Due to the road closure on Dame Shirley Bassey Way our services will need to divert.
      For service 1 & 9 the stop Heath Hospital (opp Main Entrance) will not be served.
      🚏Please use stop Ty Maeth (service 1) or the stop Hospital (service 9)

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    2. that’s a really good point in theory, but I do think customers think in terms of roads served as well as stops served, so you need to provide info on both.

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      1. I agree, because bus stop names are often the names of side roads if they are on a main road to differentiate them from each other, and speaking personally, I wouldn’t know what half those are called.

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  5. Thanks Roger, we are currently in Cornwall. We used the Mousehole service last summer and I was impressed by how busy it was with both local passengers and visitors. It ran like clockwork then and the drivers coped well with various challenges on the route.

    As ever the quality of up to date information varies. You would expect to see full details of a diversion posted at the bus station or other termini and notices on the closed stops. From my own experience with my local operator this can vary greatly with the ‘it’s all online’ approach holding sway.

    Martin Smith

    Birchington-On-Sea

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  6. The interior screens were retrofitted a good year ago for the next stop displays, as per the legal requirement, but still haven’t been connected.

    I wonder when the DVSA is going to start enforcement.

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  7. I think the current road closure saga that has reached new heights over the last couple of years must be doing more damage to bus passenger numbers than any other factor. If those of us who are daily, dedicated and enthusiastic bus users not always able to work out what is going on, what hope is there for the ordinary passenger? Much of the problem is that there are simply no more local Bus Inspectors who one patrolled their “patch”, and sorted any disruptions immediately. It is often left to local Drivers to sort out any mess! And I too cannot but help admire their skills at having to negotiate clogged roads and badly parked vehicles throughout the UK on a daily basis.

    An amusing aside when collecting my Summer Cornwall timetable book from the TIC located by Penzance bus station a few weeks ago. The ever-helpful staff asked whether I was a “local” or “tourist”, and on learning the latter, asked me to “pop it back in when I had finished as they were rather short this year”! I could only visualise people later in the season getting dog-eared and some rather well-used copies which may have caused dismay in some quarters.

    Terence Uden

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      1. I eventually found copies of the excellent Cornwall Bus Times in Truro Tourist Information Centre earlier this week. I will be leaving a copy in our holiday accommodation in Fowey for future guests.

        Steven Saunders.

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    1. Most road works are planned and the information is published but bus co0mpanies rarely act on it and just try to muddle by and largely leaved the passengers in the dark

      Where it is difficult is with emergency road works as there will be no advanced information Where there are real time displays they could be used to give some basic information but they will not be

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  8. Interestingly, and surprisingly, bustimes has what appears to be the temporary timetable, every 40 minutes: https://bustimes.org/services/m6-penzance-mousehole

    That rather implies that the roadworks and diversion were known at least two weeks in advance, and that proper schedules were produced (otherwise how would the data have reached bustimes?). Quite why drivers weren’t provided with detailed dutycards is . . . strange. Still, this is Firstbus, where repainting buses into yet another livery seems to be of more importance than keeping passengers informed.

    A little more digging around (google Firstbus M6) provides a list of timetables from First . . .the top one of which is a timetable from winter 2018-2019!! The sixth entry provides more information, including a temporary timetable, and is found within the “news and service updates” section: https://www.firstbus.co.uk/cornwall/news-and-service-updates/updates/m6-cliff-road-penzance. All of no use, of course, if the user has no internet access!!

    Surely it would have been possible to send a driver out for a couple of hours overtime to post a departure list at main bus stops (like Penzance Bus Station and Mousehole, for example!!). Still, it’s only for one week, so that’s all right then . . .

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    1. I had the same experience with the timetable book being out of stock in both Truro and Newquay Bus Stations.

      It was however available in more niche locations such as some tourist information centres. Maybe they’ve done a much smaller print run this year

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  9. But I thought everything in the Cornish garden was rosy…

    …or at least that what the spin would have us believe.

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          1. buying low floor buses until there was no other option for new buses, and whose work-of-art connectional timetables were seriously unreliable for much of the year.

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            1. I remember reading a Buses Magazine article on Western Greyhound. Apparently the reason for their reluctance to buy low floor was partly the appalling fuel economy of Solos compared to their trusty Varios.

              Peter Brown

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  10. I was advised by the (National Trust) TIC to leave the Bus Timetable in our guesthouse on departure, where, no doubt (unless the NT had personally contacted her), she would have chucked it straight into the bin after our departure…!

    I passed it on to a “local” instead.

    Mike Ricketts

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    1. Very few people are aware of Sheffield in Cornwall. You may not find a steel works there but there may be an old mine in the region

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  11. interesting regarding your Mousehole trip but, if you were to revisit out of season (as we did) you would soon realise just how seriously second homes and especially hoiday rentalcottages, affect so many villages throughout Cornwall and beyond. Virtually no shops, locals clinging on in the few remaining houses, most restaurants shut – though three good ones continue in Mousehole, depleted services etc.

    Surprisingly the mostly very good bus routes that now serve Cornwall remain together with the remaining rail routes.

    For an example of extreme h&s wastage visit St Erth station and marvel at the extravaganza that is the disabled link from lower car park to station. Unbelievable.

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  12. What Roger experienced here is far from unusual. The industry in general has simply not grasped that now they have websites and journey planners giving stop-specific and date-specific information that information needs to be kept up to date with the service that will actually be operating on the date in question including any planned diversions. Continuing to churn out the standard route and timetable on days when the operator knows it will not be running is simply not good enough.

    The rail industry gets a lot of stick for the quality of its information but it is light years ahead by comparison. Can you imagine the chaos if on engineering work days the online journey planners and station and on-train information systems continued to just show the normal service, with maybe if you’re lucky a word-processed notice somewhere telling you to ignore it? Yet that is exactly what the bus industry thinks is fine.

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    1. The bus industry seems to be incapable of handling any change. Several weeks after a major timetable change in Arriva MK/Luton and the wrong details are still on bustimes.org, new Centrebus services not tracking, timetable PDFs only uploaded to the Arriva site 2 weeks in advance, I’m glad I commute by train and not bus imagine having to try and plan your life around this!

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      1. I totally sympathise with your experience, given that you’re unfortunate to have Arriva as your main bus provider. It seems that nearly every blog on Roger’s forum concerning the large bus groups cite Arriva & First as falling well short when it comes to providing their customers with information that might affect their journeys. Without gloating, I’m fortunate to have Go South Coast as my bus service provider. Their app is updated daily indicating any change to services by route plus notification settings to provide travel alerts. So it shows it can be done!

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  13. It has been mentioned that Cornwall is supposed to be a model of an enhanced partnership. Unfortunately it seems that this does not cover who is responsible for informing customers when there are known diversions and disruptions. I guess this may depend on where the revenue is going – if it all goes to TfC then First will have little incentive to maximise it.

    As the temp timetable is on Bustimes then it must be registered, so it should be straight forward to update websites, journey planners etc – after all it comes from the same information that creates the driver duties. As always a lack of attention to detail from ALL parties involved.

    Richard Warwick

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    1. Revenue falls to the operating company so you would expect them to be on the ball with keeping passengers informed.

      A timetable doesn’t need to be registered to appear in the BODS data used by Bustimes, it simply needs to be in the data uploaded to BODS. What doesn’t make sense is that it can be provided to BODS but not the First App.

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  14. Hello Roger,

    Your ‘irritable’ journey, shows the benefit of having ‘someone’ around, in Authority, who knows what’s going on! And it would also help to have a few ‘static’ timetables around, with also leaflets available, or books with local timetables in, to people! Wouldn’t you think that makes sense?

    Thank you.

    Kind regards,

    Ben.

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    1. But even causeway one is not infallible. There is a set or roadworks on the south side of Harrogate that are causing huge amounts of disruption. They were shown on Causeway one and North Yorkshire Council’s interactive roadworks map. They have disappeared form both maps but not from the actual road where there is still a major hole. Someone should be looking into it. Sorry.

      John

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  15. Hallo Roger

    Your recent experience in Penzance has prompted me to share mine on a journey last week from Guildford to Epsom, via Dorking. Both routes (Compass Bus 32 and Metrobus 21) were on diversion but I did not know that until I was already travelling. The 32 was on a temporary diversion via Newlands Corner because of a road closure at Shalford, while the 21 was not serving Headley Village because of roadworks.

    I was struck by the complete lack of information to passengers about these diversions. There was no information in Guildford Bus Station, where I boarded the 32; no notices on the bus itself; and the digital readout simply said ’32 Guildford to Redhill’ for the entire journey. Similarly, on the 21, which I boarded at Dorking White Horse. No information on the stop; and nothing on the bus itself about the diversion. The Metrobus vehicle had an information screen, which remained blank.

    When I was travelling on these routes and realised they were on diversion, I looked online on my phone and found the information about both diversions on the Surrey CC and Metrobus websites. But the ordinary non-enthusiast traveller would have found it very difficult to obtain this information.

    Also, I was travelling on my (fairly new) Freedom Pass, which meant I was not asked for my destination by the driver on either journey. I could easily have been intending to go to Chilworth, for instance, on the 32; or to Headley on the 21, neither of which would have been possible.

    So I share your opinion, Roger, that bus operators should make much more effort to give passengers (and intending passengers) information about temporary diversions. My, and your, recent experiences could put off the general public from travelling by bus for a long time, if they came up against the same obstacles.

    Thanks for the blog, Roger. My wife (Pat Dennis; Hidden London Tour Guide) and I always enjoy reading it.

    Happy travelling!

    Mark Dennis

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    1. Many thanks for sharing your similar unsatisfactory experience Mark especilly when Compass and Metrobus are generally very good operators. So disappointing. Good to hear from you and best wishes to Pat.

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  16. I first had a ride on the 11 as it was in the late 60s. Western National ran SUSs on it from Penzance at xx.10, xx.20, xx.40 and xx.50 from Penzance, Harvey’s Blue Bus left on the hour and Hutchins on the half hour. Hutchinson, I believe came off I’m the 70s but Harvey retired on deregulation. Harvey’s earlier used a Bedford SB on the route but I have no idea what Western National used before the SUs.

    John

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  17. Please see my comment upthread re Cardiff Bus, who are good (online, anyway) at telling folk about stops not being served and alternatives to use.

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  18. In regards to the road closure on the Mousehole service, I can sense an underlying theme that the blog is setting up a criticism of First for axing local management and running Cornwall from somewhere miles away, but…

    Don’t Transport for Cornwall handle all publicity including bus stop flags and timetables for all services in Cornwall now, including for First’s commercial services? Therefore they are as much to blame for not sticking up any temporary timetables during the closure

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    1. I believe it’s actually GoAhead who manage bus stop publicity as opposed to the TfC partnership, ie the council. However, it doesn’t extend to information on diversions etc – that’s down to the individual operators, as indeed it should be.

      Another failure of First on this route is when they run out of small buses and use large buses terminating short at the Coastguard’s and not serving the harbour. They never, ever provide any bus stop or on line information about this. It’s as if they really don’t want people knowing.

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      1. The TfC Partnership is Cornwall Council and the Operators and the operators are still very much involved bus stop publicity. Disruptions are the responsibility of Operators to notify passengers.

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    2. Accessing reliable info is a chore

      while things are better than they used to be, First often do not put out cancellations at all our poor them out hours after it happened.

      TO check all sources for disruption involves 3 apps and 3 or 5 shadow at a minimum

      most days a bigger on Facebook @kernowspace puts our what is known and updates the information as soon as they know it, as well as reporting a fair bit of news stories before mainstream media have their boots on

      the timetables used to show all the stops and journey times in a bar graph from your stop to the end of the route. Stop1 5 min stop 2 7 min etc

      now you just get departure times. Service is real bad especially by First. And now the open top buses have gone… First didn’t care about them. Interesting read on how First Bus dealt with that and their customers on facebook

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  19. The vehicles used on the M6 have insufficient legroom. They are fitted with bulkier coach type seats, that aren’t necessary for a route of that length. Bus type seats would be perfectly sufficient and might just give the required additional leg room! Bus industry personnel procuring new vehicles have no idea of the practical needs of their customers.

    When I visited the Penzance National Trust office on May Day, the timetables were hidden behind the counter and I was asked, as a visitor, to post it through the letter box, when I had finished with it. During Half Term, I returned and found a pile of timetables on display. In NBC days, when asking in an enquiry office why timetable leaflets and similar items were hidden behind the counter, you would be told that it was because people keep taking them!

    I used the Go Ahead Cornwall 7 & 7A service between Lands End and St Ives, along the north coast, on several days during Half Term. The drivers were extremely helpful and coped with this new and tortuous route admirably, but were unable to answer the numerous enquiries from both locals and visitors regarding the timetable and period of operation, which is summer school holidays. In an area attracting large numbers of visitors, it would be helpful if drivers carried a copy of the Cornwall timetable book. Roadside displays appeared to be up to date. Having been left behind twice by full First open toppers last summer, I cannot understand why they are unable to operate a commercial open top service in the summer, as provided on Exmoor and in Weymouth, who used their initiative to operate open toppers on the closed top X52 service on a very sunny last Sunday.

    The comments made above regarding Go South Coast service updates doesn’t relate to Salisbury, the least professional of their operations. I am looking at a post relating to breakdown posted on 11 June, that is still posted eight days later – a quite normal and repeated occurrence – don’t their managers check what is dis displayed? Most of their update posts are un-professionally worded. including sections of city services that are missed out due to a shortage of Solos and short Enviro 200s. They have double deckers with ‘via Salisbury Rail Station’ permanently painted on the destination glass operating on routes that go nowhere near the station! Don’t their managers get out and about to identify these failings together with inbound city service buses still displaying the outbound destination! This all compares unfavourably with the high standards traditionally set by Wilts & Dorset.

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    1. I’m pretty sure these Mercedes were ordered by the now departed local management team as I remember seeing it highlighted on a particular person’s X-feed that they had been ordered. This was shortly before he left the organisation.

      I lived in Salisbury for the entire period of the privatised pre-GoAhead Wilts & Dorset. In my opinion never bettered or equalled as Badgerline quickly discovered when they tried to muscle in! And they were a well managed company too. Hugh Malone and his team knew the W&D patch inside out and were highly visible locally.

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  20. If you look at Firsts annual report there is a mass of information and all the improvements they have made, saving the planet etc, but not one mention of a commercial service improvement to any of their services. It’s now clearly only interested in it’s shareholders and trumpeting how wonderful it is.

    It’s also amazing how much it’s share price has increased on the back of its latest results, when it’s clear that half the profit will vanish in the next two years as it’s rail franchises expire. It’s also uniquely vulnerable to franchising in South and West Yorkshire and Strathclyde

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  21. Maybe we need a BSIP grant round where the emphasis is on better publicity of the existing services and “best practice” ways to tell people of short notice disruption. (CH, Oxford)

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    1. It’s already supposed to be. From the 2024 BSIP Guidance…

      4) Improvements to the bus passenger experience:
      a) improved bus stops, bus stations and interchanges
      b) improved bus information and network identity
      c) accessibility, inclusiveness, personal safety and security
      d) implementing the Bus Passenger Charter

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  22. This reminds me of a trip to west Cornwall in 1999, for the solar eclipse.

    As far as I could tell, Western National had prepared for the influx of visitors by… attempting to run the usual service, with the usual van-derived minibuses on routes such as St Ives <> Penzance. The result – trips missing, as buses were heavily-delayed on previous trips both by the high numbers of passengers and the high numbers of cars on the roads; buses crowded and leaving would-be passengers behind (including on the open-top service along the coast from St Ives to Lands End – a four-hour wait until the next bus, if my memory serves me correctly).

    It is a shame that Western National hadn’t drafted in larger vehicles from somewhere else in the First empire to provide greater capacity than the van-derived minibuses. A “hot spare” (standby bus and driver) at Penzance and/or St Ives (and maybe one or two other strategic locations in west Cornwall) might have been able to start covering trips when inbound buses were held up. Duplicating the coastal open-topper would have minimised the risk of avoid left-behinds. Of course, there may be perfectly valid reasons preventing Western National from doing any of this, but the impression it left wasn’t great.

    Malc M

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  23. I don’t even understand why this lack of information at bus stops is a thing in smaller towns and rural areas. Anyone with a 50 quid inkjet printer can run off some perfectly acceptable notices and then all you have to do is pay one of the drivers an hour’s overtime to pop round sellotapping the notices up (and taking them down at the end of the diversion).

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    1. They cannot even get the Real Time displays or the on line journey planners to show the correct information so no hope with the paper timetables at the stops that’s even assuming they have one which in most cases they do not

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  24. The summer Monday to Friday daytime frequency is every twenty minutes operated by three buses – the temporary timetable provides a daytime frequency of every forty minutes operated by just two buses. First should have provided a minimum frequency of every thirty minutes operated by three buses to provide a punctual service and greater capacity!

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  25. A theme of most of Rogers blogs is the lack of attention to the basics, reliability and publicity across the whole of the Transport system, both Road and rail. One of the basics in 2025 is a simple but comprehensive area based website such as Hertfordshire’s Intalink or Suffolk’s ‘Suffolk on Board’. Neither of these will be particularly expensive but they do need a staff member to keep them up to date and buy in from local operators.

    As getting on top of roadworks is beyond any local authority because of the stupidity of the Streetworks Act, at least a well known and reliable local information source would help. It should be a requirement of every BSIP , but I’m not aware of a single new one to the standard of those mentioned above, both of which are long standing.

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    1. All planned roadworks are published and give the planned start and finish date. Bus companies though usually largely ignore it and just try to muddle by with their existing timetable usually resulting in a shambolic service

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    2. The Suffolk Web site appears to show the current scheduled timetables and future planned changes. The journey planner appears to show only stand

      scheduled timetables. Some very limited road works information and properly not completed or that accurate

      The Essex site appears to have no timetables and little information on road works

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  26. Why does the in bus screens showing the next stop not usually name the town or village. Our two local operators Compass and Brighton and Hove seem to rely on pub names which is no use to a stranger. Even Crowborough only gets a mention at Crowborough Cross ( a pub name ) and Compass 31 has a display of “letter box” without mentioning the village ( Walstead)

    Peter Jenkins

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    1. In my many years living in south Wiltsshire, the pubs were often the bus stop and if a pun wasn’t actually an official bus stop, the buses would stop there anyway. In the late 80’s a bus shelter adjoining the now closed Bell Inn in Steeple Langford in the Wylye Valley still had an enamel sign coloured Tilling red proclaiming it to be a Wilts & Dorset Motor Services Ltd parcel agent!

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    2. It used to be the case that there was a limit on the number of characters that could be displayed. I am retired now so cannot say if this is still the case!

      Anthony Holden

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  27. ‘All planned roadworks are listed with start and finish dates’. That’s correct but they don’t necessarily happen, and the contractors often put in massively extended dates to cover themselves. Then there are emergency roadworks, and the definition of emergency is up to the utility provider.Traffic lights are left in place when roadworks have finished. The fines for non compliance are minimal. Contractors and Utilities have become a bunch of unregulated cowboys that are out of control, and the Local Authorities do not have the powers to deal with the scourge

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    1. I assume your reference to Aberdeen is a veiled reference to First Group’s HQ? Trains? I expect their top people fly & have chauffeured Mercedes (not Sprinters!) waiting for them at their destinations. All done so they can check the latest FG share price & ring their chums in the city.

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