Seen Around

Saturday 31st May 2025

Welcome to a marathon medley of miscellany for the month of May.

How to confuse your passengers

Back in November 2023 Arriva changed the route number for the bus service between Hemel Hempstead, Watford and Rickmansworth from 320 to 322 but it came as no surprise on Thursday to see the above bus in Watford still promoting the 320 – which now comprises just a school day only journey.

Furthermore last month Arriva changed the 322 timetable with its weekday 20 minute frequency downgraded to every 30 minutes in school holidays. But instead of making one of the two new half hourly departures each hour the same time as the long standing three departures an hour, timetable planners decided to have two completely different sets of departure times, and just to add to the confusion, present the whole lot in one unedifying complex matrix of journeys. Here’s the timetable as currently displayed on the Arriva website…

… with every journey coded either 1 (for term time) or 2 (school holiday time). I can’t believe that someone thought this was a good way to present information and think it would encourage more passengers to travel. The average passenger without children of school age won’t know what timetable applies on what dates even if they can work out how to read the above mess.

Hertfordshire County Council’s Intalink webpage has done the same thing but uses Sch and NSch as the explanation on the pdf vesion….

… but at least it’s website also has a function which displays the actual timetable on each day making for something more understandable, so here’s the past week’s half term timetable…

… and here’s next week’s schoolday timetable.

The change has obviously driven away passengers as Arriva has announced from next month the frequency will reduce to half hourly on schooldays too. Still, at least that means passengers might be able to understand the timetable.

Except over in Harlow, Arriva is introducing different frequencies in term time to holiday time on its local routes 2/3 from Monday. The resulting timetable on the Arriva website below wins the BusAndTrainUser Award for the Most Incomprehensible Timetable Presentation Ever.

Here’s the enlarged frequency block to make it easier to read but no easier to understand.

I find it incredible that someone at Arriva thinks this is a good way to communicate with passengers let along sell the service as an attractive proposition to potential users.

No doubt Central Connect are watching developments carefully.

Clapham Junction blockade

There was a blockade of a different kind when I passed through Clapham Junction earlier this month. Rail staff and British Transport Police were stopping everyone passing along the footbridge between platforms to check tickets with no end of barriers and high-viz wearing personnel. I was pleased to see this as too often you see people avoid paying fares, jumping through ticket gates etc. I only captured a fraction of the activity in the above photo – there must have been getting on for 50 or so staff along the entire footbridge length which did make me wonder what they do for the rest of the time.

Happy 40th anniversary Scottish CityLink

It’s not just the railway celebrating 200 years or TfL 25 years or even Tesco Clubcard 30 years in 2025. Blog reader Roy kindly sent me this photo reminding us it’s 40 years since Scottish CityLink began operating. It’s had one or two tweaks to its ownership structure over the years and is now part of Comfort Delgro and of course faces competition from ember and Flixbus as well as Xplore Dundee and, not forgetting ScotRail, not least when peak rail fares are withdrawn again later this year. I’ve always been impressed when travelling with Citylink so many congratulations on your 40th.

Camden Town shut down

I was hoping to catch a Northern line train at around 18:00 hours on a Thursday a few weeks ago but found the station shut. As you can see, quite a crowed was patiently waiting for news of when it might open and you might just be able to make out the electronic departure sign within the ticket office area showing trains arriving and departing as normal every few minutes.

So I hung on and hung on as we all did, with no information being passed on from staff. Checking TfL’s Go app didn’t help as that was showing a problem northbound between Morden and Kennington and “SEVERE DELAYS on the rest of the line” – which didn’t explain why the electronic sign was showing trains running as normal. After about 15 minutes I gave up and caught a 24 to Warren Street and boarded a train as normal there with no problems.

Arriva lives on in High Wycombe

It may have been taken down by now, but a few weeks ago I noticed the spirit of Arriva lives on in High Wycombe on the bus station concourse wall.

Train Performance by QR code

When the Government announced, with a fanfare in March, performance data of each train company from every station would be on display at the station I naively thought we’d see the figures emblazoned on screens or posters. But it turns out at most stations you have to scan a QR code for the information.

Scanning the QR code takes you to the Office of Rail and Road’s Performance at stations webpage., This defaults to Abbey Wood but you can type in your local station and up pops the statistics for the last four week period.

I tried Hassocks which during April showed GTR achieved 84.5% of trains arriving/departing within three minutes of the scheduled time and 3.6% of trains were cancelled. In view of my recent journey home from Scotland I typed in Preston which came back with an 80.1% within three minutes but when broken down by operator gave Avanti West Coast on 64%, Northern Trains on 84.8% and TransPennine Express on 71.9%. This got me hooked and I whiled away the rest of the evening tapping in all sorts of random stations to see how things compared.

ScotRail even asks your shoe size to connect to WiFi

OK, I’m exaggerating but I do find it so frustrating that train companies want to make it so hard to connect to WiFi. Some make you register an email address. Some make you prove who you are by replying to an email. And ScotRail wants you to fill in a four page questionnaire (as below) before you can sign in, telling them the purpose of your journey; the type of ticket you’re travelling with; the main method of transport you used to get from home to the station; and I didn’t understand the next screen with ‘Day trip’, ‘Return’ and ‘On foot’ as options.

And, after all that, the WiFi didn’t connect but just whirled around. I find other train companies’ WiFi equally frustrating with such slow speeds that it’s not worth bothering.

Retford bus station delight

Arriving at Retford bus station for the first time on Black Cat’s route 2 the other week, I was impressed with the smartness and cleanliness of the facilities, which included toilets, as well as helpful information being on display.

This included maps and timetables as well as an index showing what bus routes serve each destination.

And, amazingly these days, there was a staffed Information office which also double up as a mobility scooter hire place. Well done Nottinghamshire County Council.

Tooting Bec’s blast from the past

Tooting Bec Underground station is renowned for its large old style UNDERGROUND logo high above the escalator down to the platforms, but passing through recently it was a shame to see the retail units looking rather sorry for themselves with a blast from the past Newsagent and Confectioner names missing a T and about to miss an N.

Kemble delights

On the other hand, I was blown away when passing through Kemble station last week. It truly is a delightful station with a footbridge full of character…

… a lovely garden where passengers can wait on a sunny day in the open alongside the London bound platform 1…

… which was opened 12 years ago by the Prince of Wales and is maintained by students at the Royal Agricultural University in Cirencester.

The passageway to the Ticket Office is also a delight…

… and just look at the display of nostalgia and reading material on hand in one of the waiting rooms, and there’s even a ‘visitors’ book’…

… with another waiting room stocked with leaflets (sadly no train timetables though)…

… and there’s also a lovely independently run cafe.

Well done GWR. A jewel in your station portfolio crown.

New toilets at LBG at last

It’s excellent news the long awaited extra toilets at London Bridge have at last been completed and opened much to the relief of passengers especially those who previously had to regularly queue to use the Ladies and the cubicles in the Gents. They’re situated just off the Arcade in the ‘Stainer Street’ subway section where the florist used to be.

Toilet closure at ZFD

Also in this month’s Toilets at Stations Segment is the unwelcome news the new toilets on the northbound Thameslink platform 4 (which opened when the Elizabeth line opened) seem to be permanently closed. They were previously closed between 10:00 and 11:00 for cleaning, but now, whenever I pass by, the shutter is in the closed position. It would be nice to know the reason and why the lights are left on.

New buses for First’s Glasgow Express 500

When in Glasgow last week it was good to see First Bus’s new Wright StreetDeck battery electric buses recently introduced.

Eleven buses have been introduced on the high profile route 500 which connects Glasgow AIrport with the city centre in 15 minutes. And pleasing to see the First Bus Corporate Police have allowed an exception to the new corporate livery and, even better, the graphics don’t cover the windows as they did in the last version.

ember’s new Fort William E4

And more good news from Scotland is ember has now added a Glasgow to Fort William service along with its recently introduced Edinburgh to Fort Williams route. As I walked from Tynrdum Lower to Upper Tyndrum on Tuesday last week I was fortunate to see one of the new Yutong GTe14 electric coaches heading towards Fort William taking a few minutes rest at the timing point in Tyndrum. It’s impressive to see ember developing its routes and services, as well as the excellent information it provides including a live online map which you can view directly from your online ticket. It also plans to introduce a new route to Oban this summer.

Don’t park there

I sometimes board Metrobus’s route 273 at this bus stop in Hurstpierpoint and it’s always annoying when a motorist decides it’s a good place to park. I know there are no parking restrictions but you’d think common sense would say don’t park by the bus stop.

Confusing ticket options

I’ve commented on confusing ticket options on the Brighton Main Line many times before, but here’s another example of what passengers face if trying to buy a ticket from a ticket machine from say, Hassocks, to London Bridge. The London Thameslink ticket (left hand column) offers flexibility of travelling to London Bridge and also to stations through the ‘core’ to St Pancras. This therefore offers much more flexibility of destination AND is available on Southern trains too – so you could take a Southern to East Croydon and change to a Thameslink train there. It costs the same as a ticket to London Bridge (middle listing) which is only available on Thameslink trains and only takes you to London Bridge therefore being less flexible and restricted but costs the same price. Just do away with it. Ticket Office staff don’t sell it. If you ask for London Bridge they give you the London Thameslink option, so why confuse passengers by listing it on the ticket machine screens?

No need to SeatFrog upgrade on EMR

East Midlands Railway have had a problem with an imbalance of First Class and Standard Class on its Meridian Class 222 trains for some time with some five coach trains offering three coaches in Standard and two of First Class and seven coach trains four and three – which is completely potty.

Now, it’s declassified part of the First Class section to be Standard Class, so if you know your trains it’s a nice way to upgrade the seat at no extra cost.

And while talking of EMR’s Meridian trains, aside from the general dirtiness I’ve commented on before, I’ve noticed some windows are completely obscured with a kind of film as below. Highly annoying if that’s the only vacant seat.

Buxton stable area

Passing through Buxton station earlier this month I stumbled upon Northern’s museum of parked up trains in the platforms.

First Class seating at Tottenham Hale

Thanks to Blog Reader Graham for passing on details of the recently opened First Class Lounge at Tottenham Hale station Graham

Bakerloo line blighted

What on earth is going on with Bakerloo line trains? They’re all covered in unpleasant graffiti both inside and out making for a very intimidating atmosphere. Why on earth aren’t TfL doing something about it? It’s now completely out of control with every train I’ve travelled on in the past month done over. The low life committing such a crime need to be caught and severely dealt with but TfL/London Underground needs to get a grip and clean it all off.

That’s some late running

Thanks to John for sending me the attached images when he spotted buses on route 555 in the Lake District supposedly running 363 minutes late. It’s a good job Stagecoach doesn’t do Delay Repay!

Avanti’s complete incompetence continues

And talking of Delay Repay, Avanti West Coast’s policy of outright turning down any substantive claims continues. Having finally received compensation for my delayed journey from Horwich Parkway/Preston to Euston, as featured in the previous two monthly round ups (the promised Rail Travel Vouchers never arrived – I doubt they were sent – so I settled instead for an online voucher which was added to my account), there was an inevitability my application for compensation for my (in excess of) two hour delay on 19th May from Glasgow to Hassocks would be refused. (Readers will recall the West Coast Main Line was in chaos due to a broken rail near Warrington.)

Sure enough my application was deemed “Unsuccessful”. This time the spurious reason given was “our records indicate that the ticket provided is in the process of being refunded. If you believe this is an error or can provide more information, please appeal this claim, or contact the original retailer you purchased your ticket from.” I’ve appealed telling them I have no knowledge of a “process of being refunded” and in any event I purchased the ticket from Avanti on its website (but I don’t have automatic Delay Repay enacted) and furthermore it was a flexible off-peak return so Avanti wouldn’t know which day I travelled home. It’s complete incompetence once again from this company refusing claims in the hope the claimant will give up. I’m almost certain my appeal will be refused for yet another spurious reason.

Avanti just don’t seem satisfied with delaying their passengers for over two hours; they want to add more appalling customer service by making you waste hours claiming your entitlement to compensation. I really think it’s time managing director Andy Mellor got a grip on this awful way to treat passengers. More updates on this next month.

And that’s it for May. Sorry it’s been a marathon one.

Roger French

Blogging timetable: 06:00 TThS with summer Sunday extras from tomorrow.

53 thoughts on “Seen Around

  1. Wait for it Roger. On Dec 5th last year, weather effected Greater Anglia’s service to Stansted Abbots (St Maragrets) all evening due to weather conditions. So my wife and I choose to travel to Bishop Stortford by train and then taxi to Stansted Abbots by taxi, taxi cost £42. I contacted Greater East Anglia for a refund on several occasions by, email, letter and voice to know avail. Greater Anglia refused any refund as I bought our tickets on Trainline and Greater Anglia were not responsible for the disruption!!!! So I gave up. Remind me never to use Greater Anlia again. I’m still confused.

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    1. Greater Anglia appear to be incorrect, Trainline may have sold the ticket but they only act as agent . The contract is with Greater Anglia

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    2. For refunds, you have to apply to the ticket seller. So Greater Anglia were correct in refusing a refund. If it had been Delay Repay you were applying for, then Greater Anglia would have been the ones to apply to, and they would have had to pay up, even though not responsible for the weather!

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  2. Arriva are now extending the 725 to Heathrow, My guess is Heathrow is funding it

    The 725 will also get a Sunday service but only between Watford and Heathrow

    The existing short Sunday 724 journeys between Watford and Heathrow will be withdrawn

    Om Sunday the Arriva Colchester changes come in with Central Connect taking over the Braintree to Stansted service which following the airport providing funding will now revert to the 24/7 service, There is also changes to the non schooldays town services and Saturday service plus the withdrawal of the Sunday services. It does not leave Arriva Colchester with a lot of work. It may be that when the Colchester Rapid Transport system starts up which First Bus will be operating that they will pull out of Colchester

    The only real difference seems to be the 132 positioning journeys have gone

    In the Cambridge area Whippet and Flixbus are parting company from next month. Who is taking on the Flix services I don’t know

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    1. That 725 extension partly replaces the 322 which is being cut back from Maple cross to Berry Lane at the end of June. Of course, Arriva are planning on leaving a month’s gap between the 322 being cut back and the 725 being extended just to encourage passengers to make alternative arrangements.

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  3. You’ve had a busy month Roger!

    Just to say I’m pretty sure that’s Tooting Broadway, not Tooting Bec.

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  4. The Silvertown Tunnel is set to close for 17 nights over the next three weeks, Transport for London (TfL) has confirmed. The closures will be to allow general maintenance and snagging works to be carried out on the tunnel.

    The planned disruption comes less than two months after the tunnel was officially opened on April 7. TfL has advised that buses will be diverted via the Blackwall Tunnel during the southbound only closures.

    While the northbound and both direction closures are underway, buses will operate on a split-service, terminating at Canning Town and North Greenwich. Customers are advised to use the Tube or take the route 108 to complete their journey across the river.

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    1. I’m interested to see how the double deckers on the SL4 and 129 are going to fit through the Blackwall Tunnel!

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      1. The southbound (newer) Blackwall tunnel is large enough for full size vehicles. The northbound is not.

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  5. This is not correct. The 724 is being diverted to serve Maple Cross from the 29/6, the same day the 322 comes out. The 725 will also be extended at the end of July to serve Maple Cross to/from Heathrow Airport, so doubling the existing hourly frequency.

    All the information is on the ‘service changes’ part of the Intalink website.

    Dan Tancock

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    1. They are reducing the timetable west of Berry Lane from 2 BPH (322 and 724) to one (724) at the end of June, only to increase it again to 2 (724 and 725) at the end of July. Could they really not keep the 322 running four more weeks to ensure that a half hourly service was maintained and avoid residents having to understand two sets of timetable changes in a month?

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  6. The “film” on some Meridian windows is a broken double glazing seal, allowing moisture to get in between the two panes.

    The appalling level of graffiti on the Bakerloo line has now spread to the Central line. Back to the 1980s!

    Steve

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  7. Hi Roger

    Thanks for flagging the lack of a clearway at the St George’s Lane stops in Hurstpierpoint.

    I’ve asked West Sussex CC to add them to the wish list for future marking.

    Keep up the great blogging!

    All the best

    Nick, Metrobus

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  8. Scottish coach services, already excellent, are certainly enjoying another period of expansion, although hopefully not at the expense of what was in place already. Considering some of the over-crowded and often slow Scotrail offerings I have encountered over the years, coaches may long prosper unless re-regulated by another “taking back control” Zealot.

    The schoolday and non-schoolday farce at Arriva is almost beyond comment. Why it is considered acceptable to reduce services in the off-peak during school holiday time clearly indicates that whoever decided on this policy never uses buses themselves. What a surprise! Most services actually need an increase in school holiday periods, but for a company that is happy to squeeze it’s passengers into over-crowded single-decks or generally low-capacity vehicles at every opportunity, can we expect anything else?

    Terence Uden

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    1. My local operator Faresaver promotes school holiday travel with a “kids go free” (accompanied) promotion. A much more positive attitude, but then this is a locally controlled operator embedded in its community.

      Peter Brown

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  9. Really Arriva have lost the plot on timetables, probably because they are devised by a young computer wizz who never uses a bus! Not only do we have the confusion of AI generated times, but the latest ruse of putting the school/non schooldays times on one timetable (with only a number at the head) gives the impression of a more frequent service than is the case. The idea is probably universal at Arriva as it is on the Dartford/Gravesend route 480 as well.

    If they must have all buses on the same timetable, some sort of colour coding as there is on the Transport for Cornwall timetables would be much more useful.

    Brian Willson

    Orpington

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    1. My wife and I are continuing our quest of walking the South West Coast Path. Essential tools when planning sections to walk (and book appropriate overnight accommodation) are maps and bus timetables, in order to get back to where the car will have been parked. Cornwall was easy, with a comprehensive bus timetable book. Devon was good. But we now have to find our way across Weymouth, walking (over several days) between Abbotsbury and Lulworth.

      Last year, First’s X53 Breezer timetable was a boon. However, looking now at the First Wessex Dorset and South Somerset website is hopeless. There are no timetables to be seen, anywhere ! BusTimes is helpful, but you can’t print out their timetables. The First website (like many others) requires the user to quote the start and end point of a journey, to give a timed solution.

      But, you don’t have a clue where you want to get on or off, until you’ve worked out where the routes go and when they run. Only then can you plot a likely day’s walking.

      Why does the transport industry insist on keeping timetables away from public view ? OK Arriva don’t seem to, but their illegibility has already been covered.

      And the train companies are no better, with no paper timetables to pore over for planning expeditions.

      And, no, I don’t have a mobile phone with apps, thank you. I would just like access to timetables.

      Peter Murnaghan

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    2. Their timetables for their Nuneaton duties have combined around 6 different and infrequent services onto 2 timetable pdfs with the same format as the example you gave, with the added enjoyment of vastly different destinations. The only common denominator is that they commence from Nuneaton bus station. One example has destinations on opposite sides of Coventry lseveral miles apart.

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      1. No Keith, Warwickshire County Council have done that with the 73/74/75 and 78/79 groups of services. How would you suggest they be presented?

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  10. Roger. Your Blog starts with ‘How to confusing your customers’ An understandable lapse in concentration given the shear amount of travel you’ve undertaken these past weeks!

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  11. Oh!

    The declining condition of the Meridians may have something to do with them being about to come off lease. The owner will assess the condition and bill the operator for repairs and operators seem to choose to pay rather than fix them – or at least did in my day.

    d.

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  12. Arriva are definitely poor at sharing correct information with passengers . The X30 Chester to Warrington bus has a most strange route showing online as it goes from Windmill Hill to Norton , on to Moore , then Walton , then back to Norton , back to Moore again , and Walton for a second time too !
    Whilst it’s rerouting more extensively through Runcorn is a good thing , it is concerning that from Windmill Hill to Walton the X30 and the already struggling 62 run by Ashcroft run almost identically , often one behind the other and taking it in turns to overtake one another when the lead bus stops to pick up passengers. It could be the death knell for the 62.

    GT

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  13. Surely it’s obvious where and when the Bakerloo Line (external) graffiti is taking place, Stonebridge Park depot seems a prime candidate, where trains are stabled overnight. Just task a British Transport Police (with dogs) to mount some observations and apprehend the vermin. This may cost some money, but failure to crack down on this will encourage other criminal activity on the Underground making it unsafe for women travelling alone in particular.

    Peter Brown

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  14. Any news on the highs (and lows) of Brighton’s buses? Or is there a post-retirement NDA in place?

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  15. Running transport services is difficult. Sometimes there are problems and that is when customer service is required. Too often passengers are left to find their own way home and the fragmentation of the railway shows itself with a “not our service” response.

    After a terrible experience, the last thing passengers need is awful customer service. Surely it cannot be difficult to see what happened when and respond accordingly. So even when a passenger might think about giving a service another go responses such as that described above from Avanti, presumably the First influence, lead to people giving up on public transport.

    One other aspect I find frustrating is the focus on fare evasion. There are more announcements about ticket requirements than useful information. The Jenrick stunt will increase focus but some station areas feel like medium secure institutions rather than pleasant places to be. There should be a way of ensuring people pay without making passengers feel like suspects.

    Gareth Cheeseman

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  16. Arriva’s off-peak non school day frequency reductions are becoming more commonplace. I’d assume that there is greater demand for off-peak services on non-school days. Can anyone inside the industry confirm? If so, then they are making their services less attractive just when there is more demand. What other industry would do that? I assume this is for operational convenience because more drivers want to take holidays during school holidays. And people wonder why public control is heading our way.

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  17. It seems that both Arriva & First are mentioned more frequently on this blog when it comes to poor service & poor communications. Why don’t these two groups just sell up? I’m fortunate that my local bus provider is part of Go South Coast who really do go that extra mile for their customers. As the late Andrew Wickham demonstrated, you have to lead from the front & motivate people with the job of delivering services day in, day out. I really hope his legacy inspires many others in the transport industry to deliver the best possible service for their customers, whenever & wherever possible.

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    1. Arriva and First aren’t worried about poor service or poor communications. As long as they still make money, why would they sell up?

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  18. Re the Clapham Junction ticket checking: I expect that this also included the lower level passageway, so there would have been even more participants.

    Ian McNeil

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  19. I have always found Nottinghamshire to be a good county generally as regards public transport. The Retford bus station confirms that view. But now there has been a revolution in council control through the Reform win things may change. How will they square the “doge” fanaticism with actually trying to facilitate and run public services? I won’t judge until we have some experience. It will be interesting.

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    1. Nottinghamshire is doing well with its new bus stations. I’ve been to Mansfield and found it busy and well-equipped with passenger information screens and timetable leaflets. I think new bus stations have been built in Newark and Worksop in recent years, too.

      The County Council doesn’t do well at older sites. Beeston Interchange (tram / bus, opened 2015) is still showing posters featuring the “Yourbus” routes. That company ceased operations suddenly in October 2019.

      From time to time, the electronic information screens at several bus stops in the Beeston area (and probably elsewhere) show details for routes which do not run anywhere near that stop.

      John M.

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  20. One of the delights of First Essex timetables on their website is that they use red and green dots to distinguish between Schoolday and non schoolday journeys. Unfortunately using my monochrome printer I get grey and grey!

    Nigel Turner

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      1. It also assumes everyone knows when the school holidays are. It gets even more confusing if buses go across counties as they tend to have slightly different school holyday periods

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  21. One of your Tyndrums has become a Tynrdum.

    There do seem to be a lot of staff at Clapham Junction. Once last winter on a particularly cold and windy day I found a very large number of them sheltering by the ticket gates at the rear entrance to the station subway!

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  22. Hi Roger – this is all great stuff, but where a really real problem occurs is if a service is almost completely shut down. So we lose even the basics. Tomorrow (Sunday 1st June), Cross Country has cancelled most evening northbound services from Oxford. That’s not an easy journal to make by other routes. (And when the Oxford to Milton Keynes line opens, it could become very overcrowded by something like that occurring). (CH, Oxford).

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  23. I recall East Midlands Trains (Stagecoach) doing a mass ticket checking “event” in the 2010s.

    Everyone on the company apart from drivers was emailed a few weeks beforehand “inviting” them to join in, in their own time of course (if they had fixed duties so couldn’t disappear from their job for a couple of hours to help out) and unpaid too if it was their day off. The only reason drivers weren’t “invited” is that Stagecoach Rail’s rather strange Personal Electronic Device Policy meant that drivers weren’t issued with company smartphones whereas everyone else was, so drivers didn’t have company email addresses and couldn’t be invited.

    A driver management colleague refused to take part and had his performance related bonus for the quarter significantly reduced. Yet another reason why being a railway manager isn’t such a wonderful thing!

    The most ridiculous thing about it was that the vast majority of the EMT staff checking tickets that day had zero ticket training so really didn’t know what they were looking at. It was all just theatre.

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  24. I see your confusing Arriva timetable, and I raise you … have a look at the X93/X94 running between Middlesbrough, Whitby and Scarborough. Not only does each through journey jump across to a later column twice (and not the adjacent column in most cases), but in some cases journeys start near the bottom of the page and then jump upwards. It’s absolutely impenetrable – thank goodness for independent websites interpreting it for passengers!

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      1. They are automatically generated from BODS and nobody in the Commercial or Marketing teams at Arriva has any control on how the website presents them.

        Roger is well aware of this, and his blog is starting to get boring.

        I understand they are in the process of moving to a new web platform to resolve this.

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  25. Regarding the Avanti delay repay issue, I was also caught in the west coast main line chaos on 21 May. I am pleased and surprised that my delay repay submission to Avanti for a Euston to Carlisle journey was approved within 24 hours and the funds returned within a further 3 days!

    Two days later, the return journey, from Carlisle to Newcastle, then to Stevenage was also delayed, by 90 mins. This was due to a late running train to Newcastle and a missed connection. I have yet to hear the result of that delay repay submission and suspect Northern will point the finger to LNER and vice versa. I have experience of that before.

    Hopefully overall public control will reduce that nonsense. Or will delay repay disappear altogether!

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  26. Arriva has the worst timetable format of all the bus companies, in Wales some Arriva’s long routes change number mid route to avoid the 30 mile rule, like 51/51B Rhyl-Denbigh, change number at Denbigh to X51 & continues through to Ruthin or Wrexham, however you wouldn’t know it looking at the Arriva timetables, which lists them as separate routes in separate timetables.

    SM

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