24 hours in Snowdonia

Tuesday 15th April 2025

Readers may recall an Explore Wales trip I did with my brother last September when we missed out on a planned journey on the lovely Sherpa’r Wyddfa branded route S1 through Llanberis and a ride on the Conwy Valley railway line from Betws-y-Coed to Llandudno Junction due to a late running arrival into Caernarfon from Pwllheli on route 12 missing a connection.

We put that right on a return visit to North Wales at the end of last week by spending a wonderful 24 hours in glorious sunny weather exploring the Snowdonia National Park by bus and train making sure my brother hadn’t missed out on enjoying this fantastic part of the country.

We arrived at Bangor railway station at 12:22 on the first direct Avanti West Coast train from Euston at a handy 09:00 off-peak departure bound for Holyhead. It was a very pleasant journey and, unlike I’d noticed from ‘realtimetrains’ on the previous few days, arrived into Bangor spot on time. Even better, a speed restriction through Purley which meant our Thameslink train from Sussex to Cambridge arrived into St Pancras 16 minutes late at 08:46 didn’t prevent our catching it thanks to a vigorous and brisk walk over to Euston.

The ten coach train (two new five coach Class 805s – 805008 and 805009 -coupled together with the rear five coach unit – 805009 – terminating at Chester) was lightly loaded too.

We walked the short distance from Bangor’s railway station to the bus station where Arriva still maintain a staff facility in the former travel shop….

… although quite a few bus routes are now run by other bus companies, and caught the 12:33 departure on route S3 heading for Caernarfon via Bethel and on to Beddgelert.

The route and timetable had changed slightly from the previous weekend with the few journeys which commence in Bangor running via Tesco’s large superstore in the town rather than the station but still double run to serve the hospital making for a bit of a convoluted exit from Bangor but we only had one other passenger on board who alighted near Bethel.

A change of drivers in Caernarfon saw the new driver bring on board a welcome supply of the very attractive bilingual brochure for the Sherpa’r Wyddfa (formerly Snowdon Sherpa) network…

… with a very clear and easy to understand map as well as timetables for all the S lettered services.

Having picked up three passengers returning home from Caernarfon (one of whom travelled just a few stops locally) we headed south eastwards on the gorgeously scenic route to Beddgelert where we and the two passengers alighted.

Connections between terminating S3 journeys with buses on route S4 passing through between Porthmadog and Pen-y-Pass are conveniently timed in the delightful popular tourist hotspot village of Beddgelert…

… but we decided to take advantage of the S4 running on its school holiday hourly frequency, rather than term time two-hourly, to spend an hour in the village…

… and soak up the charm Beddgelert offers.

After that rather lightly loaded S3 journey it was also rather sad our next journey on the S4 at 15:00 from Beddgelert to Pen-y-Pass ran empty other than for ourselves.

All the more so as this route is definitely in the Premier League of Britain’s Most Scenic Bus Routes as it wends its way up the A498 to Pen-y-Pass and as I’ve highlighted in a previous blog.

At one time this link and southward to Porthmadog ran less frequently but now it’s up to hourly it really is one of the most underused hidden gems of the bus industry. I’m pleased to report I’ve used it on other occasions and it has been well used by walkers and mountain climbers.

It was pleasing to see the small bus interchange point at Pen-y-Pass was as busy as always with many walkers catching hourly routes S1 and S2 supplemented by S5 shuttles to provide a combined 15 minute frequency to the Park & Ride car park at Nant Peris with the S1 and S2 continuing half hourly on to Llanberis.

Double deck buses on many journeys on the S1 offer amazing views as the route climbs and descends the mountain roads…

… but it’s a shame they’ve not all been given the attractive Sherpa’r Wyddfa livery and branding and many of the single decks are in plain white.

Continuing our anti-clockwise circuit around Snowdonia we caught the S1 at 15:30 towards Caernarfon with an impressive 20 on board…

… 11 of whom alighted at the Park & Ride site and another half dozen and ourselves got off in Llanberis.

We’d spotted the Llanberis Lake Railway was operating with a convenient last departure of the day at 16:10 to the terminus at Penllyn on the north bank of the lake.

It’s a charming little steam railway which appeals to all ages…

… and offers a lovely ride lasting almost an hour there and back…

… allowing you to soak up the tranquility offered by the lake in the shadow of the surrounding mountain peaks and the former slate industry.

There’s a five minute stop at Cei Llydan on the return journey…

… as well as another at Gilpaoh Ddu where there’s a handy car park and access to Padarn Country Park. It’s only £11 for a return journey (£10 for concessions).

Back at Llanberis I was disappointed to see a grossly out of date bus map with long discontinued route numbers and misleading information about the formerly named Snowdon Sherpa network. Here’s hoping Transport for Wales and/or Gwynedd Council read this and put this right before it confuses more visitors and tourists.

We caught the 17:50 departure on route S1 onward to Caernarfon and although the brand new bus, which had just entered service, deposited a large number of passengers on arrival in Llanberis…

… it only carried five, with two other passengers joining, on to Caernarfon where we stayed the night.

Our four journey Thursday afternoon circuit on the S3, S4, S1 and S1 had been achieved with a £7 1-Bws Ticket (£4.70 with English/Scottish concessions) representing excellent value for the unparalleled scenic delights on offer.

An early start on Friday morning brought us back into Llanberis for 08:05 on the 07:40, second departure of the day, route S1 from Caernarfon, with seven other passengers, so we’d be in good time to treat ourselves to a ride on the 09:00, first departure of the day, Snowdon Mountain Railway.

This truly is a wonderful scenic experience as the diesel locomotive pushes the 60 seat carriage slowly and steadily up the mountain.

As the season has only just restarted trains were only going three quarters up the mountain to Clogwyn as the end of the line at the summit and the café located there are still being prepared for the summer season.

Even so it’s a 45 minute spectacular journey with incredible views as you ascend up the single track…

… with interesting commentary added every so often from Alwyn, our train guard for the journey who sits at the front of the train car on the ascent, and which is obviously at the rear on the descent.

At Clogwyn we had time to enjoy the spectacular scenery…

… and in some ways it was a more enjoyable experience to spend time in such a desolate spot on the mountain

… rather than at the summit which naturally gets very crowded and has a busy café.

After our half hour break it was time for the journey back down and around a fifth of our otherwise full complement of passengers opted for the two hour walk back down which wasn’t surprising bearing in mind the glorious weather we were lucky to be having that day.

It’s quite incredible that this railway was built in just 14 months in 1894 and even more amazing one or two of the original steam locomotives are still retained and in use from time to time.

The journey back down is just as slow and steady and takes 45 minutes with a short pause at a couple of passing places halfway and a quarter way down as ascending trains pass by.

After that wonderful start to the morning we took the 11.10 route S1 from Llanberis to Betws-y-Coed – again doing good trade with walkers to Pen-y-Pass but only four of us continuing from there to Betws-y-Coed where we arrived just ahead of schedule at 11:50 giving time for a short break before the 12:04 TfW departure on the Conwy Valley line to Llandudno Junction.

This was showing as running a minute late only to then change to the dreaded “Delayed”. I was just preparing a Plan B as the “Delayed” tag wasn’t changing when the the two-coach Class 197 train glided into the station and the many waiting passengers boarded.

It was a very busy train up to Llandudno Junction and rather oddly continued to show ‘Delayed’ on all the online apps and stations, including the train’s next scheduled departure south from Llandudno to Blaenau Ffestiniog.

I wondered how many passengers might look at that information and understandably think they need to make alternative travel arrangements or whether, like the Guard on the train I spoke to about the anomaly, just think ‘oh yes, that happens a lot; it’s old technology and is susceptible to signal loss’. Hopefully that’s not signal loss as in track side signal loss.

It’s a lovely journey as the train follows the east bank of the River Conwy and we arrived into Llandudno Junction, seven minutes late at 12:42, where many of our almost full compliment of passengers alighted (and it’s only April, not the summer season), and my brother and I concluded our wonderful 24 hours in Snowdonia by heading back to Sussex with TfW, Avanti West Coast and Thameslink.

Thanks to the lovely friendly drivers at Gwnyfor Coaches for giving great service during our brief visit.

Roger French

Blogging timetable TThS with an extra bonus daily blog over the Easter Weekend (FSSuM).

21 thoughts on “24 hours in Snowdonia

  1. Euston station will be closed over the Easter weekend while various works are undertaken on the south end of the WCML.

    Network Rail say they “will utilize the station closure to improve toilet facilities, update signage, and enhance wayfinding.

    Roger, cast your discerning eye over the station to find those enhancements when you next use Euston.

    John Nicholas

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  2. The Sherpa network is excellent. What you may not have realised is that it is combined with draconian parking restrictions in the National Park (including only allowing a limited number of pre-booked vehicles at Pen-y-Pass). This is not only to prevent visual pollution but simply to keep the roads passable and safe. Parking charges are high and these may perhaps go towards subsidising the buses.

    We caught the bus from Beddgelert to Caernarfon last year, having arrived on the Welsh Highland Railway. What was noticeable is how fast the driver had to go to keep to schedule – a huge contrast to the leisurely train journey!

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  3. Beautiful part of the world. I have happy memories of holidays in North Wales, and working as a volunteer trainee guard on the Tallylyn Railway too. I think its such a shame that the Ffestiniog Railway has semi abandoned Blaenau Ffestiniog and its connections with the Conway Valley line, in favour of running pre booked “experiences” between Porthmadog and Tan-y-Bwlch only.

    The Sherpa’ R Wyddfa network looks superb, I hope that as previously commented that the car parking fees support the bus network. It is a model for all the national parks, as some are completely overwhelmed with illegal roadside parking at peak times. The Peak District in particular should take note. It’s surrounded by major urban areas so it should be easily accessible by public transport boosted by national park authority subsidies.

    Peter Brown

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    1. The Ffestiniog railway do run the Quarryman ‘experience’ from Blaenau Ffestiniog at 11:40 on selected days. This gives around 2 1/2 hours in Porthmadog. It connects with the Conway Valley line arrival. The return has around an hour to wait for the Conway Valley service – far too late for a hotel 18:00 dinner and tight for 19:00.

      The fare is listed as £49.50 adult, £5 child & dog. Back 1980’s/90’s there was a through ticket and in real terms it must have been significantly less.

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  4. What a beautiful brochure!

    I happened to have read an article on the web about the golden ratio in design just before your blog, Roger. This tantalising publication is a great example of the effect of usability, even though the exact mathematical formula of the ratio may not be there.

    “The effect states that users will typically perceive visuals that are well-structured as being more usable, no matter what. … This appeal doesn’t just attract users, it enhances their overall experience with the service as well.” [Interaction Design Foundation]

    I am certain Roger would agree with this and, yes, rigid enforcement of restrictive, personal driving measures contribute to the effect but I want loads more of this type of partnership throughout public transport in the UK. We’d all live longer and happier as a result!

    Neville

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  5. Could just be WordPress slow to update, but I still see compliment not complement.

    Also, you have an instance of Beddlegert instead of Beddgelert.

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  6. Those with longer memories may recall Stagecoach East London London in conjunction with the Ffestiniog railway ran an amazing X15 from Penrhydadruth-Porthmadoc- Beddgelert and Carnarvon with redundant RMC coaches (including green RMC 1461) for an entire week c1997/8. With many “short workings” on the section from Penryn to Beddgelert……the best weeks conducting I ever enjoyed in my 62 years (1962-2024) doing the job.

    Probably the first double deck working on most of the route, although Whiteways did employ a regular working at the Caernarvon end, but not sure if it made it to Beddgelert normally.

    Terence Uden

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    1. We probably met Terence. This trip which i clouded travel from Wiltshire was my 30th birthday present to myself. A very memorable experience!

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      1. We probably did Keith……I was the “old Conductor” even then!!….and it was 1998 as had just also retired from a stint at BR, by then Connex.

        Terence Uden

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    2. Until 2024? Fascinating, I’m surprised any firm was still employing conductors by that stage.

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    1. Or rather Eryri and Yr Wyddfa are the correct Welsh names. Admittedly the National Park now uses these Welsh names even in English, but as they accepted when making this change they cannot stop people using Snowdon and Snowdonia, arguably these are the ‘correct’ English names. After all, Trafnidiaeth Cymru uses Welsh names for places in England which have a Welsh name when using the Welsh language. Some of these are well known, such as Amwythig for Shrewsbury, but I wonder how many Welsh speakers actually know that Yr Heledd Wen is Nantwich? Either way these are ancient and historic Welsh names for these places, part of their history that should not be lost.

      AHS

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  8. Very good description of transport available in Eryri. If more people used park and ride, there would be no problems at Pen-y-Pass

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