Thursday 7th November 2024
It’s taken me a while, but my travels finally enabled a catch up with two public transport infrastructure developments. The £27 million rebuild of Sunderland station’s southern entrance which opened last December and Halifax’s newly rebuilt £20.5 million bus station which fully opened in July after a partial opening a year ago. And yes, you read that right – £27 million for a new station entrance, yet £20.5 million for a whole new bus station. Let’s take a look at what seems a bargain basement price tag first.
Halifax’s new bus station

It’s been a West Yorkshire Combined Authority project with an Outline Business Case approved in October 2019 and a Full Business Case passed in August 2020 with planning approval granted the following month. Work started in September 2021…

… with a partial closure of the old bus station…

…which moved across the site as the new build took shape.

As you can see from these aerial shots taken from a promotional video, the new building is divided into two segments in a V-shape giving 19 drive in, reverse out departure bays and a separate parking area for layover buses.

The passenger area has been made very airy and a pleasant place to wait…

…but as with many bus stations these days, there’s not a lot of room for passengers once they start queuing back from each stand…

… on either of the two segments.

I’ve noticed that part of this problem arises because passengers don’t like to begin the queue by the exit door to the bus parking area as it might appear they’re pushing in front of those taking advantage of the (only) eight seats, thus rather wasting the space between the seats.

Rather than having a screen showing the next couple of departures above the door no expense has been spared with a screen to the left of each door large enough to show up to the next five departures. This is in addition to a long departure list across two back to back screens hanging from the roof in both V-shape segment circulation areas. The two things missing are listings telling you which departure bay a bus route leaves from by route number, particularly useful for visitors who know their route number but not their bay number, and an alphabetical listing of places served with route and stand numbers for the visitor who knows nothing. There’s plenty of wall space where these could be posted.
And, of course, as one would expect these days, there are no timetables on display but there are static departure time listing by each bay.

Annoyingly the roof hanging departure listings switch to other messages from time to time…

… but luckily only the right hand screen, which has later departures, so not as bad as having to wait for an imminent departure to be displayed.

There’s a ‘Travel Centre’ located at the join between the two V-shape segments on the concourse.

It comprises two people working behind secure glass answering enquiries and selling tickets.

It was good to see it was staffed on a Saturday afternoon.

Sadly, West Yorkshire Combined Authority make a charge of 20p to use the toilets…

…and only coins too (no contactless), but on my visit it was on ‘free vend’ and being extensively used by passengers.

There’s also an accessible toilet, baby change room, staff toilets and a changing places room.

It’s not easy these days to find tenants for retail spaces and so far only a small unit has been let, but it seemed to be doing a good trade.

Other spaces for renting out remain empty.

One of the great things about the newly rebuilt bus station is the way the neighbouring historic and rather lovely buildings have been incorporated into the design.
This is the rather splendid entrance on the east of the site…

… and although the doorway and corridor is rather narrow for a large bus station…

… it soon opens up into the wider concourse…

… and there are other entrances and exits for pedestrians to use.

These fine structures to the south of the site…

… have also been retained.

The first entrance shown above also has room for retail but no takers so far.

Another unique aspect of the site is the exit for buses being up a very steep slope. leading on to Northgate, which is controlled by traffic lights.

Traffic management works currently in progress are causing some delays with the road ahead blocked from time to time.

As you can see the bus station is used mainly by First Bus, but also Team Pennine and Arriva.

It’s a great improvement on what went before and West Yorkshire Combined Authority have done a good job, not least, if it’s true, that the cost has come in at just £20.5 million. After all, you can’t get a basic two platform railway station with a footbridge and lifts for that these days. And talking of spending lots of money on infrastructure on the railway takes us to Sunderland….
Sunderland station’s new southern entrance

Costing £27 million, Councillor Miller, leader of Sunderland City Council reckoned “it is stunning … a demonstration of the ambition we have to transform this city into a place we can all be proud of”. It’s certainly a transformation of what went before…

… but £27 million for what inside is basically a large empty space with 16 seats, two ticket machines…

… a ticket office in the corner, two sweet/drink/snacks vending machines and three electronic departure screens left me scratching my head wondering … why?

The promised retail outlets – both inside the new concourse area and fronting on to the street are still empty with To Let signs trying to muster up interest.

Meanwhile down at platform level it’s as dingy as ever, although the lighting does help to make the best of a bad job…

… and there is a well lit, enclosed waiting area on the island platform.


I’m guessing blowing £27 million on the southern entrance meant there’s no money left over to do something about the two northern entrances…

… which are rather grim, both outside and…

… inside, although it is very practical with stairs down to the platform and a lift.

Metro passengers have two ticket machines while Northern passengers have just the one, that is, if they realise the illuminated advert on the front is hiding a ticket machine behind it.

While in Sunderland I also visited the city’s bus station where you’ll find 21 departure bays…

… to a rather interesting layout, compared to Halifax, as you can see in the diagram on the poster photographed below. The benefit being each bay is ‘drive in and drive out’, with no reversing needed. But it does make for a slightly confusing layout for visitors to get to grips with.

And that’s it. A tale of two rebuilds.
Roger French
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Better spent some money to make a large and warm waiting room in the Park Lane Bus Station, it’s just freezing to wait there.
KS
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There seems to be a lot of wasted space with the Sunderland concourse unless it is just the camera angle
With the retail outlets are they try to load to many of the costs onto the tenants thus pricing them out.. Most of the costs are there whether occupied or empty. Charge less and people might rent them
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What’s the first old building at Halifax bus station? (the one with the tower) It looks early Victorian (I can’t read the date stone) – perhaps an old railway station building?
The Northern ticket machine at Sunderland “convenienently” obscures the warning message that Metro passengers must have a valid ticket before travel.
John M.
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When the new bus station opens at Kingston upon Thames (Cromwell Road) I hope Roger does a review and find out its cost, please?
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Is it just me or does anyone else think it would be more helpful if the bus station screens listed departures in service number order rather than by time?
After all, I’m not necessarily interested in where the next two or three buses are going, I just want to know what time the next bus on my route is due and finding it would be so much easier that way.
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That would be a good idea for new passengers who usually know the service number, especially if someone had advised “you need to get the # bus”.
Peter Brown
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I seem to remember Norwich bus station having quite a steep, and light controlled, exit for buses, too.
Andrew Kleissner.
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Although its been a long time in the construction stage, Halifax’s new bus station is a big improvement on what went before.
Although I do wonder about that steeply-sloped exit! I notice the strategically-placed grit bin in your photograph, but still fear there could be difficulties on icy/snowy mornings, which are not unknown in Halifax.
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The common habit, which you mention, of starting the queue from just behind the back of the bank of seats nearest to the departure bay door, is matched by the similar habit at many bus stops of starting the queue from the shelter, even if the shelter is some distance from the stop and the weather is fine!
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Park Lane Interchange, to give the bus station it’s proper title as it has it’s own Metro station, has seven reverse out stands on the southern side. This facility is out on a bit of a limb these days as the city centre regeneration is largely based around the old Vaux brewery site on the northern edge of the centre. Sunderland’s Civic Centre used to be adjacent to the Interchange but the council have relocated to a new City Hall on the Vaux site. Regeneration has brought a re-hash (read mess) to the city centre roads layout which means bus routes have quite lengthy loops to negotiate to access the Interchange. Upshot is several services no longer use the Interchange, including all Stagecoach services, and use on-street stops instead.
William.
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The toilets in Leeds bus station seem to have permanently open barrier gates. Not sure whether that applies to all Metro bus stations, but perhaps they have realised that fewer people carry small amounts of cash nowadays.
John
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Congratulations on ten centuries plus one blogs. Pleased to see all those reasons for the previous cancellation have been overcome!
Steven Saunders
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Thank you, as ever, Roger for your work. Contrasting indeed! The Halifax bus station (not too close to Halifax Railway Station 🤔) looks like someone made an effort with the layout and design. I particularly like the look of the enquiry/ticket office which has more than hint of Art Deco about it. Sunderland, however, I find most depressing. If that had been my £27m, I’d be seriously upset. A very grand dose of nothing … although it could perhaps double as a concert venue 😂. John Pinfold, Cheltenham, UK.
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I have watched so many YT vids lately I read the title as a pair of rebuilt WW2 aircraft
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Roger, you may wish to investigate the situation with regard to Porth bus station / transport hub / interchange.
Having viewed the site whilst on a visit to South Wales this week, it is to all intent and purpose complete.
Apparently it was completed in December 2023.
Wales Online advises that it can’t be opened until TfW take legal ownership of the building from the council.
In July 2024 TfW advised that they ‘hoped’ to open in August 2024.
This seems yet another example of TfW lack of urgency in providing better facilities for transport users.
In the meantime services continue to use street stops.
Keep up the good work.
Andrew Sutherland
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That sounds interesting Andrew; thanks for the info and background. I’ll see if I can pay a visit later this month.
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As one who used the old open-air version on a cold, wet and windy day, I see the new Halifax BS as a vast improvement. An oddity – the big departure screen (at 14.17) shows some departures at 14.40 and some in 23 minutes, likewise 14.45 and 28 minutes. Why the difference?
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Countdown in minutes means the real time feed for that service from the vehicle is working.
Scheduled time in 24 hour clock format indicates real time data isn’t available for that departure or service.
Despite BODS and contrary to common belief, real time doesn’t yet cover the entire bus network and not necessarily supplying the correct data 100% of the time where it does exist. Rather too many local authorities get away with claiming their information displays are “real time” when they all display in scheduled time. In Newcastle this is the case at Haymarket/Eldon Square bus stations despite the fact the major bus operators using them all supply real time data as evidenced by their apps and used by bustimes.org.
William.
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Halifax looks good and good value too. Why not make some of the retail units free of rent at least to start with? It may stimulate interest and life and activity.
MikeC
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To be honest, I don’t quite get this ‘obsession’ with bus stations and interchanges needing ‘retail space’ at all. Maybe it’s just me, but if I go to a bus or rail station, then my primary purpose is to catch a bus or a train, not to do a ‘bit of shopping’.
I can understand rail stations perhaps having a cafe or somewhere to get a bite to eat while you wait for a connection, but I am of a mindset where I will time my journey to arrive at the station shortly before departure. And if I have a long journey ahead of me, I’m perfectly capable of making my own packed lunch to eat, thank you, rather than pay extortionate prices!
With High Street retail dying a death, I’m not surprised that take-up of retail spaces at these new bus and railway stations is very slow.
Stu – West Midlands Bus Users
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In terms of retail facilities in bus/train stations there are only really two things that are needed within the site, a newsagents (occasionally a larger convenience shop but that is probably more than needed) and a cafe/bakery. Not everyone can plan their travel to not have time spare around trips (arrival/departure times don’t always line up well with what you are doing, leaving aside connections between trips) or want (or are able) to carry around food & drink in case they want it whilst waiting – which they may not have planned to do if they have just missed a trip or something hasn’t run. Anything more than that is just taking space away from where it is needed though sometimes the site means there are retail spaces that aren’t really related to the transport hub but are just attached as the opportunity was taken to do a wider development – Broadmarsh Bus Station in Nottingham is most obvious as there are a line of shops on the outside but they all face outwards so are just shops for passing trade (all are still empty as the shopping centre that was supposed to have been rebuilt behind the bus station is still just a pile of rubble so that end of the city centre is in decline rather than being on the rise.
Dwarfer
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The new Halifax Bus station looks nice, but too bad that they didn’t continue the original building’s theme, and that they instead chose to attach a not-very-pretty modernist building to a beautiful historic façade.
I also have a question on the layout, is it not more efficient (and possibly cheaper?) to have 4 loading bays, 2 unloading/terminus bays and 20-30 parking spaces for buses? Than having say a “drive in, reverse out” layout or staggered bays layout (like the one you mentioned in Sunderland)?
Extremely good value for money in Halifax though.
I think it might be worth checking out the new Cromwell Road Bus Station, in Kingston-Upon-Thames, in South-West London, when it opens some point this year (it was meant to open in Autumn), probably has the most non-TfL bus services calling there at any bus station within Greater London?
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