Seen around

Thursday 30th May 2024

Welcome to another end-of-the-month round up of miscellany that’s caught my eye during travels in May which haven’t made it into a full blown blog, but nevertheless might be of interest.

First up, a visit to Oxford, after checking out that frozen-in-time Park & Ride site at Eynsham to see …

Oxford’s ElectriCITY fleet

I sampled a couple of rides on the smart new electric powered buses now being introduced to both the Oxford Bus and Stagecoach fleets in Oxford as part of the city’s upgrade to be fully electric powered. Both the single and double decks buses are impressive with an eye catching livery and a very nice interior specification.

The seats look good and are comfortable to travel in with good leg room.

The next stop display shows the next stop, the upcoming one after that and the destination as well as a scrolling series of promotional messages on the right hand side.

The bays for two wheelchairs and a buggy space are very clearly marked out…

… on both sides of the bus.

The double deck has a similar interior specification…

… with the same seats including usb charging points…

All in all, very impressive buses that are going to make an impact once established all over the city.

Sheffield’s Connect makeover

South Pennine Community Transport is now running new electric powered buses on the Sheffield Connect branded SC1 city centre circular route including a second route SC2.

Sadly an accident has put one of the new buses off the road leading to a reduction in frequency of route SC1 from every 10 to every 15 minutes, but you’d never know from the South Yorkshire Combined Authority produced departure listing.

More positively, there’s good publicity for the newly high profile branded routes with information and posters as you leave the railway station…

… which is followed up by direction signs on the way to the nearby bus station.

The Grindleford café

I mentioned in the recent blog about Peak Sightseer paying a visit to the former station building at Grindleford which is now a lovely family run café.

As you can see there’s a lovely (original?) British Railways station sign still on the outside wall…

… as well as authentic signs inside…

… and one of those wooden barrier type things you used to always get in booking offices in front of the window from where tickets were sold.

Dore & Totley’s new platform

After that I popped off the train back to Sheffield to take a look at the recently opened second platform at the nearby Dore & Totley station …

… including a footbridge with lifts. It’s part of the upgrade to the Hope Valley line between Sheffield and Manchester and a long overdue development as it was crazy that such a busy railway line went down to single track at this key point as it joins the Midland Main Line from St Pancras into Sheffield.

It’s certainly an investment which will reap benefits immediately, as opposed to some schemes which get implemented at huge cost only to then fail to realise their poitential (eg the Ordsall Chord and, to date, the East Coast Main Line upgrade).

Better services to Telford and Shrewsbury

As I was catching a train from Telford Central last week I was reminded of the new improved service being introduced by West Midlands Railway from this weekend including a new hourly “fast service between Birmingham and key Shropshire towns” as described on the white board. What a shame there was no printed promotional literature showing a timetable to really get the message across in an easily accessible format.

I also noticed there was no mention of the withdrawal of the Avanti West Coast direct train to London. But it was nice to see a cube promoting PLUSBUS protruding out of the wall…

… and a new large electronic screen which wasn’t declaring what it would display…

… and letting us know it was an “Asset Not in use currently undergoing commissioning”.

Even better there was a colourful map showing Arriva’s bus network which looked as though it might even be up to date, although I haven’t studied it in detail and what a shame Telford & Wrekin Council couldn’t arrange a comprehensive map showing the routes it funds too.

Barber Shop Bus

It’s always interesting to see where buses end up after their loyal service with bus companies. I spotted this former Wilts & Dorset Optare Solo doing a brisk trade as a Barber shop in the centre of Woolwich last week.

There were four barbers busy at work in the low-floor section with a good number of young people sitting patiently in the rear raised section waiting for their turn.

It didn’t look as though the barbers were part of the DfT’s £2 maximum price though.

The Poo Bus

I’ve seen some interesting bus branding and livery ideas in my time but this one spotted in Harrogate for a bus aimed at children’s activities certainly made me smile, as instructed on the engine bonnet.

When a missing letter just about works

Arriva is famed for its ‘Sunshine Deserts’ displays on the sides of its buses with missing letters and blank panels deforming promotional messages but this bus spotted in Shoeburyness on Saturday just about passed muster.

I’ll have a ‘P’ Bob and then it’ll be fine.

“Raindrops keep falling on my head” in Leeds

It was great to see West Yorkshire Combined Authority promote its £4.6 million 36 week refurbishment delivering a “significant upgrade to the exiting bus station, providing more modern facilities, a new retail unit and improved accessibility for passengers” in Leeds back when it was completed in 2022.

It’s just a shame the project obviously didn’t include the roof as seen in a visit a fortnight ago.

The curse of the temporary traffic lights

Staff at Transdev Blazefield were battling to counter long delays on its flagship route 36 between Leeds, Harrogate and Ripon when I had a ride a couple of weeks ago. As is so often the case the problems were due to multiple sets of temporary traffic lights along the route. One “4-way control” set was to facilitate what looked like significant changes at a road junction in Pannal …

… while another as we left Harrogate towards Leeds was causing long queues towards the southern end of Station Parade …

… only to find the junction with York Place was reduced to one lane so that ….

… a man up a ladder repairing a traffic light, or maybe changing a light bulb (?), could do so safely.

What a pity such work can’t be programmed for early on a Sunday morning. The combined delay from both queues cost us 20 minutes and significant disruption for hundreds of bus passengers (and motorists).

COVID precautions in Crewe

Interesting to see Covid is still causing problems in Crewe. Right alongside the offices used by Cheshire East Council too.

Old Steine bus shelters

The lovely art-deco bus shelters by Brighton’s Royal Pavilion have long been a target for vandals. I’ve lost count of the number of times the City Council refurbished and repaired them. Sadly I noticed the same when taking my recent journey on Stagecoach’s new route 701.

But there are plans to divert buses away from this section of road as part of a grand scheme the Council has been working on for some years and I suspect once the area becomes pedestrianised (as is the plan) and the shelters put to alternative uses (the inevitable coffee ‘shop’ … maybe even a barber shop) the vandalism will stop.

Little & Often Lives On

I had another ride on the Stagecoach Connect DRT operation in the Aylesham area of Kent (north of Dover) during the month and this time the minibus was in the Stagecoach Connect livery but inside there was a reminder of its previous guise as part of the erstwhile “little & often” scheme in Ashford.

And the message to “get the app” would confuse any passenger thinking that’s the app they need rather than the Stagecoach Connect app.

Kent Fastrack on track

When I got to Whitfield north of Dover (the furthest south the DRT goes) it was interesting to see work on the new Fastrack scheme for Dover is almost complete heralding a summer introduction.

Getting the step count up in Runcorn

After one of my trips to Cheshire this month to try and take a ride on the iTravel DRT operation I ended up in Runcorn and noticed once again that the three coach TfW Class 197 train towards Liverpool Lime Street pulls up at the very far (northern) end of the station platform meaning passengers have to walk a considerable distance to the footbridge (around 150 yards) to cross over and exit the station through the building on the other platform.

Why on earth can’t a stop board be placed 100 yards further south so the train comes to a halt right by the footbridge. And please don’t comment that it’s to do with a signal – surely the driver can see that far ahead if there’s a signal at the end of the platform? It works at other platforms.

METRO reaches new heights

… especially at East Croydon station. There must be an awful lot of METRO readers who pass through leading to containers this tall.

Don’t be fooled by SeatFrog’s instant upgrade offer

I’ve commented before about the opaque bidding process deployed by SeatFrog for upgrading to First Class. A recent trip from Paddington to Ledbury offered me the opportunity to “upgrade instantly for £35” (as shown above) rather than make a bid when the minimum price was at £15.

Knowing the hidden SeatFrog trick, I avoided that offer and instead indicated I was prepared to bid up to £21 (as shown above and below)…

.. only to be immediately advised that I’d won the upgrade at a price of £20 …. explained “as you bid over £20 you’ve won instantly”. If that’s the case why did the company try and fleece me for £35?

As Private Eye would say: “I think we should be told”.

Gloucester’s Transport Hub‘s heritage

I was interested to pass through Gloucester’s fairly recent “Transport Hub” on my way back from riding the Daffodil Line and spot the stones incorporated into the interior wall which were “originally part of a large Roman building which once stood near this spot”. The explanatory posters either side explain the background that “archaeologists found the stone walls of the building about 2 meters below where you are standing”

… including a reconstruction of what it might have looked like.

Quite a transformation.

And a long long platform

I know it’s controversial because it has two numbers (1 and 2) but I always find the length of Britain’s longest continuous (unbroken) station platform (1,977 feet and 4 inches) impressive – looking east (as above) and west (as below) from the same spot.

A career with us

Many bus companies use high profile messaging to attract new recruits including bus exteriors. In London, Arriva does it more subtly.

Catch a taxi rather than a bus

Interesting to see Royal Cars taking the opportunity of TfL’s ineptitude at displaying timetables at its bus stops in East Croydon to instead promote its own operations.

Road closed. Or not.

Is it just contractors in my local authority area – West Sussex County Council – who display Road Closed signs when there’s no road closure? It keeps happening in the Hassocks area and motorists and bus drivers just ignore the signs now … except sometimes they are valid …. leading to the inevitable need for three point turns.

When’s the next bus due?

If you’re at St Michael’s Church in St Albans, served by route S7 in the peaks, it might be worth taking a pair of secateurs with you to see the information posted at the bus stop (with thanks to John Crowhurst for the photo).

More miscellany next month.

Roger French

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34 thoughts on “Seen around

  1. “Asset Not in use currently undergoing commissioning”. We have one of those at Sutton Coldfield station.

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    1. a slight inaccuracy in the Sheffield Connect piece, SC1 is reduced to every 10 minutes by the missing vehicle (was every 7-8 minutes). The missing electric vehicle was stolen whilst left out charging overnight in the bus station, crashed and returned!

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  2. One route I drive had a Road Closed sign in one direction for 3 weeks longer than needed. Having checked with the depot, we had to carry on using the diversion in the one direction, as they didn’t want us passing a Road Closed sign, in case things had changed and it was indeed closed again. All because a contractor forgot the signs.

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  3. The Optare Solo at Woolwich would seem to be MX04VLR, which spent time with Stagecoach Devon, Supertravel and Darwen Coach Services before finishing its bus career with Chalkwell. Has been in situ since at least 2022 and replaced a former Dial a Ride bus which started the business.

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  4. Hi Roger,

    It is time you spent some time in West Cumbria sampling the buses run by Stagecoach. Her the buses from West Cumbria depot must have the highest average agee of any Stagecoach depot – any new vehicles are only used on contract services for Sellafield. The depot is known by the drivers as the bus graveyard and local media is running stories of missing buses and people late for work or hospital appointments just about every week.

    Last Saturday we went for a day out round Buttermere starting with the 77c from Cockermouth to Buttermere which was on time with a cheerful driver. A 50 minute wait in Buttermere for the 77 meant time for a coffee before the bus pulled. This was the Storey Homes branded vehicle normally used on Cockermouth town services. And sure enough the driver had difficulty in getting the doors to close (a long standing problem with this vehicle). At the top oh Honister the doors would not close after about 5 minutes trying and we were all moved towards rhe rear of the bus, the driver telling us he would take us down to Seatoller to catch the 78 (a half hourly service to Keswick). On the way down we were stopped by the driver of the bus going the other for him to pick up the spill kit. The vehicle had failed with a fuel leak. This left only one vehicle running the 77s instead of the required 3. The driver told us that our bus had been all week in the garage having a new door motor fitted! At Seatoller time went by and no 78 until after nearly an hour one appeared. The excuse was traffic in Keswick. We rode on the top of the open top bus and all the way to Keswick there was no sign of the second bus used on the service. One of the two required was obviously out of service. After a goid lunch and a walk round Keswick we headed for the bus station seeing an X4 heading for Workington departing. No worries, the service X4/X5 is every 30 minutes. Except this day it wasnt – the X5 was obviously out of service and we had to waiit an hour for the next X4. There was inevitably a long wait for boarding (bring back conducters) and we were late departing meaning we misses the connection in Cockermouth for the C1 town service meaning a walk home. Not a good example of how to run bus services! Incidently at one time there were 3 examples of Kendal or Lancasters vehicles on the half hourly 555 service to Ambleside, Kendal and Lancaster in the bus station at the same time. All bright, shiny and new compared with our collection of older tired vehicles.

    A typical day for West Cumbria (and dont get me started on the printed timetable for West Cumria – thats another sorry saga!).

    Peter Fox

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  5. Thank you for another interesting blog.

    I like the Woolwich Barber’s shop – gives a new meaning to “bus service cuts”

    Also the pictures of the state of Leeds Bus Station’s roof. What is it with the build quality of WY’s bus stations? Have you tried to get a bus to neighbouring Bradford’s Interchange recently? And Halifax’s is not yet fully opened.

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  6. Many people on the Stagecoach Connect? I ask as someone who used the fixed route Regent services from time to time and enjoyed many a conversation with the regulars, who were always most welcoming.

    I note that the Aylesham to Canterbury route has been reduced to hourly for most of the day and wondered whether it was to encourage use of the Connect.

    Jeff

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    1. Apart from meeting in Aylesham, there is no overlap between the 89 to Canterbury and the DRT service.

      KCC

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  7. Thanks for another interesting article Roger.

    Your covid picture reminds me of lots of toilets in particular no longer in use for customers in supermarkets. When I recently questioned this in a Tesco store the staff said they didn’t otherwise have their own toilet and since covid management have decided it is best staff don’t mix with customers in the toilet!

    Matarredonda

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  8. Many thanks – always lots of interest in your ‘Seen Around’ blogs!

    Re your ‘trains stopping at the far end’ item, when I used Redhill station a lot, a similar thing happened, particularly with Tonbridge trains departing from the north end of platform 1 – a lot of hassle and worry for passengers arriving on platform 3 from London. I remembered reading about Gerald Fiennes praising the work of ‘Old Joe’ who always made sure the train departed on time even if passengers were running for it – but that is a senseless attitude if they are running because they have been forced to walk or run for much further because of frankly stupid operating practices.

    In the case of Redhill, could not the redundant mail bridge halfway down the platform be converted into a footbridge?

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    1. Equally inconvenient at Redhill was arriving on a train ex-Tonbridge which draws into the London end of platform 1, having to walk the length of the platform down to the subway, up onto platform 0 (yes, there is one!), and walk the length of that platform to catch the Reading train which also waits at the north end.

      But the last time I travelled Tonbridge – Reading, both trains used platform 1.

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  9. One interesting point about the Oxford livery on the new electric buses. The blue/green livery is common to both the Oxford Bus Company and Stagecoach vehicles. Other than in London, that must be unique i.e. to deliberately have very similar paint schemes between different operators in the same location?

    Gives a nice co-ordinated feel to everything in the city, although some do miss the route-specific colours when running for a bus from a distance.

    CH, Oxford

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    1. The electric buses in Leicester are the same livery whether they are First or Arriva vehicles, although Arriva do have their logo displayed.

      A. Nony Mouse

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  10. In your Runcorn item, you captured one of the most baffling (at least to me) recent developments in station platform furniture. It’s great to see seating set aside for those with accessibility needs, but why make the ‘accessible seat’ a different height from all the others. Good accessibility practice is to make as much of the infrastructure accessible to all, so why not replace station seating with equipment that is *all* accessible to as many people as possible?

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    1. The raised seats may not be accessible to people of small stature. One size does not necessarily suit all!

      RC169

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  11. Re the Arriva Southend Versa, you might also have seen the aptly named “Ride of Thunder” – more correctly Pride of Thundersley! Incidentally, the Pride of . . . names were originally used on Southend’s initial batch of 12 Routemasters, under Mark Howarth’s managership.

    Richard Delahoy

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  12. Gloucester has Britain’s longest continuous (unbroken) station platform on the national passenger railway network, but the answer to a quiz question on a recent Green Signals podcast about where is the longest railway platform currently in use in Britain turned out to be the Eurotunnel shuttle platforms at Cheriton at 750 metres/2,460 feet. Obviously, you can only use them if you are in a road vehicle!

    Steven Saunders

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  13. Trains stopping at an inconvenient part of the platform seems to be an increasingly common phenomenon. A fine example of “Putting Passengers First.”

    Philip Whitehead

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    1. Train drivers are nowadays generally instructed to take their train to the next stop board, even if that means going all the way to the end of the platform because the only stop board on the platform has been placed there.

      Using personal initiative, such as stopping at convenient locations, is discouraged nowadays.

      A Train Driver

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  14. unfortunately despite the new electric buses on SC1 & SC2 & the publicity the loadings are not better that with the Vans provided previously.

    With regards electric buses in South Yorkshire the Yutong’s have started going into service on 22x between Rotherham & Barnsley & 221 between Rotherham & Doncaster, they are mixed with the diesels at the moment

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  15. As to Long rail platforms, I have learned not to use terminating trains at woking to try to interchange to anything else. The displays are unreadable and the terminating bay might as well be a different station (I am sure Maryland is closer to Stratford !) with a long hike , especially if you forget (or are too crammed in) to move forward to the front end of the train.

    JBC Prestatyn

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  16. Always interesting but the SeatFrog item caught my eye. When you bid your original £21 there was the “platform fee” of £3 that was added at the end. They upgraded you for £20 but did they still add the £3?

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    1. Looking at their web site there is no clarity on that or even mention of it. I assume you have to download the app. They would get away with adding the £3 provided they made it prominent that you had to pay it before you complete the transaction and form the contract

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  17. Opening date for Cardiff’s long-awaited bus station finally confirmed

    An official opening date has been confirmed for Cardiff’s new bus station after years of waiting. The first services will call at the interchange from Sunday, June 30.

    The operational plan for the station, which has cost around £100m, has also been published and says it will be used by two Stagecoach services, 20 Cardiff Bus services and the Cardiff Bus/Newport Bus 30 and X30 service. But not all will use it from day one

    I have not been to Cardiff for quite a few years but that will not be all the bus and coach routes so it sounds as if quite a lot will not be using the buds station presumably because it is to small to take them all

    No coaches appear to using it and only some of the Stagecoach and Cardiff bus.

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  18. Re Leeds Leaking Bus Station. As the images in my recent letter in Buses magazine showed, Metro / WYCA had big problems back in 2015. Why can’t they resolve a simple problem? Another example of incompetence. Why are councillors satisfied with this incompetence? And they want to run our buses too!!

    Paul Kirby. Wetherby

    https://www.keybuses.com/article/you-write-38

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    1. “This is a premium article and needs an active subscription”.

      Sorry chap but I’m not paying to read your rant!

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  19. Thanks Roger, for your excellent and insightful articles, which I always enjoy reading. The ride / pride of Thorpe Bay story reminds me of the time in the 1990s when the old First CentreWest company branded its buses with local identities, including, in my area, “Ealing Buses”. There was one vehicle running around for a while where two letters had been (probably deliberately) removed from the logo to create “Ali G Buses”!

    Top Deck

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  20. An entertaining round-up, as always; thank you Roger.

    The next stop / upcoming stop / destination display on those Oxford electric buses looks good. It reads the right way round, unlike those on some other operators’ buses.

    Thanks for the reminder about the café at Grindleford. I went there on a wet summer day a few years ago when it was crowded. I missed most of the railwayana, so must go back.

    That footbridge at Dore & Totley looks good. The recently refurbished footbridge at Duffield is painted the same colour: much better than the standard Network Rail dark green. Re the “busy railway line [going] down to a single track” … both routes are much busier now than in 1985 when the second platform was removed.

    Users of stations at the “key Shropshire towns” will probably appreciate the additional fast train each hour in the new timetable. Those at the smaller stations may be less happy that their trains are now slower to Birmingham as they are diverted to stop at Tame Bridge Parkway and the yet-to-be-opened stations at Darlaston and Willenhall.

    Arriva’s bus route map is good. Is there any indication at the railway station of where to find each bus within that square of “Telford Town Centre”. This seems to be a standard Arriva practice; the online map of Derby just has all routes going into a “City Centre” circle.

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